Man Utd V Sunderland (5.30)

Spud83

Don't forget Sunderland don't have a manager yet.

~Rebel~

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Did he not come off the bench on Wednesday.

i didn't watch it. In that case im stumped!

Bobalicious93

~Rebel~ wrote: »

doesn't he have another seperate banning for 5 yellows or something too though?

I thought this aswell which is why I left him out of my team. I could be wrong though

PHB

Yeh, he was out for this anyway. 5 games in total. Such a joke.

Smegball

I'm going for 5-0. Tevez hat trick

Spud83

Evra is available for this game. He picked up the banning against City for his 5th booking but that doesn't start yet either. Believe he misses the Spurs game for that then the other ban will take effect.

keane2097

ntlbell wrote: »

well the university professor's did the stats on something like 30 years of football..

i dunno about you but i tend to think they no more than you or i.

You seem to be awfully confident in the opinion of a guy whose name you don't even know tbh.

Where's the proof?

ntlbell

keane2097 wrote: »

You seem to be awfully confident in the opinion of a guy whose name you don't even know tbh.

Where's the proof?

it's not an opinion

it's a book, you can purchase it, i just can't recall the name of the book.

he doesn't "think" it he doesn't even know that much about football

they just took the stats crunched the numbers and came out with _FACTS_ based on it.

if you can show me some proof that shows the stats on teams/winning losing when a manger changes i'm all ears...

redout

ntlbell wrote: »

it's not an opinion

it's a book, you can purchase it, i just can't recall the name of the book.

he doesn't "think" it he doesn't even know that much about football

they just took the stats crunched the numbers and came out with _FACTS_ based on it.

if you can show me some proof that shows the stats on teams/winning losing when a manger changes i'm all ears...

Sunderland, Roy Keane.

ntlbell

redout wrote: »

Sunderland, Roy Keane.

Sigh....

that's not stats.

take all the teams

take the match after ALL the teams changed the manager

put up against win/draw/loss

this gives you the true fact if it's true or not with ALL managers and ALL teams..

pointing out one manager at one team doesn't prove a stat

redout

Man City, Sven. First dozen odd games of last season.

Dave!

redout wrote: »

Man City, Sven. First dozen odd games of last season.

That's great... so that's TWO teams.....

Now keep going and maybe your posts will resemble something sensible

ntlbell

redout wrote: »

Man City, Sven. First dozen odd games of last season.

Are you struggling to understand this concept?

They took every single result off the first game of every manager for every team over a period of twnety years

they looked at the win/loss/ratio's

of EVERY team the first match of the manager

is this sinking in yet?

you know

prem

championship

1st

2nd

3rd

etc

penny dropping?

ntlbell

the only match we're concerned with is the first game the mangment took charge nothing after it

game 1 first day managers "debut" games

so if you take every manager that moved to a new club

get the result of the mangers "debut"

put it up against every other win/lose/draw?

i'm trying to think of simpler ways to put but i cant

redout

ntlbell wrote: »

Are you struggling to understand this concept?

They took every single result off the first game of every manager for every team over a period of twnety years

they looked at the win/loss/ratio's

of EVERY team the first match of the manager

is this sinking in yet?

you know

prem

championship

1st

2nd

3rd

etc

penny dropping?

To say it is a myth is ridiculous if it only takes into account the first game. So what if the man goes undefeated then in his next 8 - 10 games. Sounds a loud of bollix and useless fact.

Dave!

ntlbell wrote: »

the only match we're concerned with is the first game the mangment took charge nothing after it

game 1 first day managers "debut" games

so if you take every manager that moved to a new club

get the result of the mangers "debut"

put it up against every other win/lose/draw?

i'm trying to think of simpler ways to put but i cant

Use hand puppets

Latchy

Sure i am not the only one to notice how convienient Keanes depature from Sunderland is .This would have being a defeat to far

ntlbell

redout wrote: »

To say it is a myth is ridiculous if it only takes into account the first game. So what if the man goes undefeated then in his next 8 - 10 games. Sounds a loud of bollix and useless fact.

The myth is the first game a team always wins with a new manager THAT FIRST MATCH

but the truth of it is based on the facts that isn't the case....

if the stats are counted in another 50 years it maybe the case the myth is THEY ALWAYS WIN the first game


another myth is teams are more likley to conceade a goal just after they scored one

now you can point out tons of times that this has happened and you can always look at managers after his team scores going "keep your heads" cause the myth is you're likley to conceaede here and you can show me loads of time it's happened

but the fact is based on the stats of goals scored against just after scoring shows this not to be true in fact its when team statistically are the most least likley to conceade

but when it happens to a manager he remebers it he forgets all the times it didnt happen

as a fan you remember the times it happened you forget all the times it did't

i cant do this anymore i'm going grey

ROCKMAN

UTD TEAM

VDS

RAFAEL
RIO
VIDIC
EVRA

RONALDO
CARRICK
FLETCHER
PARK

ROONEY
BERBS

redout

no tevez ? a scandal.

ROCKMAN

BENCH

KUSZCZAK , ANDERSON ,GIGGS , EVANS , NEVILLE , NANI , TEVEZ

Dave!

FFS gutted for Tevez... What does he actually have to do to get a game? If I were him I'd be looking to move on.

4 f*cking goals in the last match

Joke

Raskolnikov

Oh well, that's Tevez gone at the end of the season.

Smegball

I thought Evra was suspended!

Spud83

ROCKMAN wrote: »

UTD TEAM

VDS

RAFAEL
RIO
VIDIC
EVRA

RONALDO
CARRICK
FLETCHER
PARK

ROONEY
BERBS

Damn I was only one player away from getting a perfect team.

Spud83

Smegball wrote: »

I thought Evra was suspended!

I must be on more peoples ignore lists than I thought.

Headshot

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Oh well, that's Tevez gone at the end of the season.

yap
gone

pity

keane2097

ntlbell wrote: »

it's not an opinion

it's a book, you can purchase it, i just can't recall the name of the book.

he doesn't "think" it he doesn't even know that much about football

they just took the stats crunched the numbers and came out with _FACTS_ based on it.

if you can show me some proof that shows the stats on teams/winning losing when a manger changes i'm all ears...

But sure you're just claiming there's a book somewhere written by some guy who has crunched numbers that agree with you.

I will now prove my argument by claiming there's a book out there written by a guy who has crunched numbers that agree with me.

I also can't remember my guy's name or that of his book.

Nevertheless, QED.

keane2097

latchyco wrote: »

Sure i am not the only one to notice how convienient Keanes depature from Sunderland is .This would have being a defeat to far

This defintely was a factor imo.

Dave!

Hey I thought Evra was suspended.

Raskolnikov

Come on Sunderland! Andy Reid to score the winner in a close 1-0 victory!

Spud83

Sunderland team : Fulop, Chimbonda, Ferdinarnd, Collins, Bardsley, Yorke, Malbranque, Whitehead, Reid, Diouf, Cisse.

Bench: Colgan, Nosworthy, Edwards, Murphy, Jones, Leadbitter.

Whoops updated team.

Smegball

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

I must be on more peoples ignore lists than I thought.

Did I just hear something :pac:

ROCKMAN

Dave! wrote: »

Hey I thought Evra was suspended.

Look for the final time we play who we want , when we want, We do not listen to some Pissie little group,
The FA who or what is that ?

Raskolnikov

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Sunderland team : Fulop, Chimbonda, Ferdinarnd, Collins, Yorke, Malbranque, Whitehead, Reid, Diouf Cisse.

Bench: Colgan, Nosworthy, Edwards, Murphy, Jones, Leadbitter.

Playing Manchester United with only ten men? Ballsy decision from the caretaker manager.

Spud83

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Playing Manchester United with only ten men? Ballsy decision from the caretaker manager.

a not so stealth edit has occurred.

mayordenis

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Sunderland team : Fulop, Chimbonda, Ferdinarnd, Collins, Bardsley, Yorke, Malbranque, Whitehead, Reid, Diouf Cisse.

Bench: Colgan, Nosworthy, Edwards, Murphy, Jones, Leadbitter.

Whoops updated team.

there's only 10 in that team or is there something wrong with me?

Edit - i'm slow

Spud83

Next time ya's can look up your own team. Interesting how many people pay attention when you make a mistake.

mayordenis

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Next time ya's can look up your own team. Interesting how many people pay attention when you make a mistake.

we're football fans it's how it works, all you're good hard work will go unmentioned,
and then 1 mistake and your public enemy number 1.

genericgoon

mayordenis

genericgoon wrote: »

Diouf and Cisse are seperate players and people know it. Stop being such pedants

there was 10 including both of them. We wouldn't be so calous over to get up on our high horses over a cimple comma.

Spud83

genericgoon wrote: »

Diouf and Cisse are seperate players and people know it. Stop being such pedants

LOL:pac:

ntlbell

nosworthy on the bench? and yorke picks himself lulz

FutureGuy

Tevez not getting a start is a big a disgrace as I can remember...fierced annoyed by that. Ronaldo and Berbatov better pull the finger out today.

mormank

hey. anybody got a link to where i can stream this game please..and i mean to the page, im computer illiterate. much appreciated

ntlbell

FutureGuy wrote: »

Tevez not getting a start is a big a disgrace as I can remember...fierced annoyed by that. Ronaldo and Berbatov better pull the finger out today.

scores 4 bebro still walzting around the place doing feck all...

couldn't agree more...

what does tevez have to do?

whatawaster

last time i said Tevez won't be at Utd next season i was attacked. But his continued absence is truly baffling.

Raskolnikov

I just put another €5 on Sunderland to win this at 33/1. I'm sure United will win, but 33/1 is just a ridiculous price.

Also have Sunderland +2.5 goals at evens.

whatawaster

ntlbell wrote: »

scores 4 bebro still walzting around the place doing feck all...

couldn't agree more...

what does tevez have to do?

it's not as if utd use Berbatov as a target man either. He drops deep like Tevez so you're not losing much of a presence, that's not what Berbatov is about.

Raskolnikov

http://atdhe.net/live-tv-1170.html

Decent feed.