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Time to bring back the death penalty

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  • 08-12-2008 7:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭


    Is it time to bring back the death penalty and actually USE IT?!

    That 13 year old who shot the mechanic
    Option 1 hold his hand
    try and rehabilitate him
    lock him up again
    hold his hand again
    lock him up again

    Option2 dangle him at the end of a rope dangle the fellow who gave him the gun at the end of a rope


    Which option is the best

    I know that innocent people will die if we introduce and use the death penalty but it is a price worth paying.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I know that innocent people will die if we introduce and use the death penalty but it is a price worth paying.

    Are you willing to pay it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Even if there was one I sincerely doubt we'd start executing 13 year olds:rolleyes:

    It's quite retarded to even suggest it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,030 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Keyboard warriors: ATTACK!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Even Texas wouldn't fry a 13 year old.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,096 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Hell yes, bring it back. Currently the jails are full anyway. And pay for it: do you mean the chair that fries them or the dodgy syrenge that zaps them. All are freely available on various side streets.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭Davexirl


    I believe we should use it, there is scum out there who arent afraid of the law here. Bring it back but not on 13 year old kids.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,030 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    I find the idea of executing 13 year olds appalling.

    These are kids who are not mature enough to smoke, have sex or drive by law.
    Yet we'd view them as mature enough to die.


    Strange rationality but there you go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭mountainyman


    Fine hang the person who gave the kid the gun.

    if we hanged 200 people we could wipe out the drugs gangs

    if we hanged 2000 we could wipe out serious criminlaity

    hanging 20000 only 1% would solve a huge amount of problems

    get rid of the worst 1%


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    What's the problem with building a big giant prison anyway? The construction would create jobs, the final product will create jobs and it will create room for scumbags with a 'sheet' as long as my cock (for all you know it's really long!) who shouldn't be on the streets.

    How many prisons are there currently in Ireland, and what's the total capacity?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Highsider


    Yes but it must be not only for murder. Child abusers,rapists,heads of banks etc...must all pay the ultimate price.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭mountainyman


    I find the idea of executing 13 year olds appalling.

    These are kids who are not mature enough to smoke, have sex or drive by law.
    Yet we'd view them as mature enough to die.


    Strange rationality but there you go.

    He was old enough to kill. He saw life as having value. We place the value on his life that he does on ours.

    FLUSH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭mountainyman


    What's the big problem with building a big giant prison anyway? The construction would create jobs, the final product will create jobs and it will create room for scumbags with a 'sheet' as long as my cock (for all you know it's really long!) who shouldn't be on the streets.

    How many prisons are there currently in Ireland, and what's the total capacity?

    Costs money to keep people in prison . he more you kill the more you save one of the rewasons they love it in the states.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,096 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Regardless of his age, look what he did. Imagine the same guy in 10/15 years. How will he escape next time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Fine hang the person who gave the kid the gun.

    if we hanged 200 people we could wipe out the drugs gangs

    if we hanged 2000 we could wipe out serious criminlaity

    hanging 20000 only 1% would solve a huge amount of problems

    What if we run out of rope? That's a problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,030 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    He was old enough to kill. He saw life as having value. We place the value on his life that he does on ours.

    FLUSH

    So we arbitratily allow kids to be seen as mature.

    Does this mean if a kid seems mature we'll let him drink, smoke and f*ck?


    FLUSH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭mountainyman


    Highsider wrote: »
    Yes but it must be not only for murder. Child abusers,rapists,heads of banks etc...must all pay the ultimate price.

    Agreed. The landlord class must be destroyed, hang white collar criminals ad estate agents in the 20,000


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Was there not an 8 or 9 year old being charged for murder as an adult in the states or somewhere recently for pre meditating killing his grandfather?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    He was old enough to kill. He saw life as having value. We place the value on his life that he does on ours.

    FLUSH
    A 4 year old is old enough to kill in the right circumstances, should we execute them too?

    No offense, but your ''argument'' is moronic. At first I though you were just messing, now I think you're trolling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭mountainyman


    So we arbitratily allow kids to be seen as mature.

    Does this mean if a kid seems mature we'll let him drink, smoke and f*ck?


    FLUSH

    Yeah as long as we let HER drink and smoke and ****.

    Full BOAT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭truecrippler


    What if we run out of rope? That's a problem.

    Then we'll strangle them with our bare hands!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,030 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Yeah as long as we let HER drink and smoke and ****.

    Full BOAT

    I actually like this way of thinking.

    Kids are now mature enough to be tried as adults and can be treated as such.

    I'm heading on down to the local secondary school to pick me up some impressionable teenage kids.


    FLASH IN THE PAN


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    beertons wrote: »
    Hell yes, bring it back. Currently the jails are full anyway. And pay for it: do you mean the chair that fries them or the dodgy syrenge that zaps them. All are freely available on various side streets.
    You can get leccy chairs on the streets of Dublin now? Heeeeeaaavy buuuuuzz. Jeez I am old...

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Yes the punishment should fit the crime, he took a life, his should be taken from him.

    No matter of age.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ok. Lock the kid until they're 18. And then hang them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    He was old enough to kill. He saw life as having value. We place the value on his life that he does on ours.

    FLUSH

    Not to dampen your rabble with pitchforks or anything but do remember this person has not been charged with anything. They have been arrested, big difference


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,030 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Holsten wrote: »
    Yes the punishment should fit the crime, he took a life, his should be taken from him.

    No matter of age.

    DOes this mean we can start executing three year olds if they kill someone?

    Ok. Lock the kid until they're 18. And then hang them.
    Hold on now, the issue here isn't is he old enough to allow to execute him, but rather, was he mature enough at the time of the crime to take full culpability for doing so.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    DOes this mean we can start executing three year olds if they kill someone?

    Poor Maggie :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I find the idea of executing 13 year olds appalling.

    These are kids who are not mature enough to smoke, have sex or drive by law.
    Yet we'd view them as mature enough to die.


    Strange rationality but there you go.

    They are mature enough to murder though.

    **** them.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Agreed. The landlord class must be destroyed, hang white collar criminals ad estate agents in the 20,000
    Fine hang the person who gave the kid the gun.

    if we hanged 200 people we could wipe out the drugs gangs

    if we hanged 2000 we could wipe out serious criminlaity

    hanging 20000 only 1% would solve a huge amount of problems

    get rid of the worst 1%
    And perhaps hang the namby pamby PC brigade who surround us on all sides?

    Hell, let's start a proper decimation in the classic sense. Live text voting for who dies with Laura Woods and Marty Whelan hosting the whole affair and Joe Duffy manning the noose.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    What's the problem with building a big giant prison anyway? The construction would create jobs, the final product will create jobs and it will create room for scumbags with a 'sheet' as long as my cock (for all you know it's really long!) who shouldn't be on the streets.

    How many prisons are there currently in Ireland, and what's the total capacity?

    A huge filing cabinet is all thats needed.Smallest cells possible and locked up 24hrs a day on their own.

    Costs money to keep people in prison . he more you kill the more you save one of the rewasons they love it in the states.

    It costs lots of money to keep people in the current nice warm and amenety filled prisons we have now. Small square boxes with cot bed are cheap to build and cheaper to maintain.


    I'm on favour of the death penalty btw.


    Does this mean if a kid seems mature we'll let him drink, smoke and f*ck?


    No but if he chooses to do those things he is participating in adult acts and should be treated as such.


    A 4 year old is old enough to kill in the right circumstances, should we execute them too?
    .

    A 4 year old is not a 13 year old. 13 year olds are well on the way to the maturity they will have at 18 and are well able to decide right and wrong especially in circumstances like what happened last night.


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