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While I'd love to argue that boards.ie has a lot more weight than it's usually given credit for (and I think I could successfully argue that, by the way), I think the more interesting thing this thread has to offer is a place to brainstorm ideas about. If one survives criticism by those who know the discipline and the those who run the grounds and so on; well, who cares where it originates? It'll be adopted anyway. You can see that by noticing how things that have been done by one shooting group that proved a success, have been taken up by every other shooting group trying to further their sports. Websites, email lists, sms lists, PR campaigns, newsletters, organisational structures, pricing, and more - good ideas in all these areas get used by everyone eventually.
And that's a good thing. So hasten it along by dumping an idea into the public domain and letting everyone use it, instead of worrying over who gets credit for it. Open Source Target Shooting, if you will
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I'm not a clay buster myself, but as an outsider, judging by the website and the amount of shoots, ICPSA looks like a great outfit. The lack of matches for what I do is frustrating, but you guys have somewhere to go EVERY weekend! You even had ole Biffo at the shoot in Esker. I'd happily pay €40 if I had somewhere to go every weekend.
Can I take you up on that bigred?
We've run two air shoots this year and not one person turned up. We ran one last year and had a similar turnout.
€40 might just cover the cost
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Can I take you up on that bigred?
We've run two air shoots this year and not one person turned up. We ran one last year and had a similar turnout.
€40 might just cover the cost
If I remember correct, I signed up to anything that was going, only to be disappointed when you cancelled. I can understand the problem - who'd want to bother with tiny little airguns when you could suck in the aroma of burnt cordite 0 -
If I remember correct, I signed up to anything that was going, only to be disappointed when you cancelled. I can understand the problem - who'd want to bother with tiny little airguns when you could suck in the aroma of burnt cordite
We're a money grubbing financially motivated bunch of capitalists. If it pays, we'll do it, doesn't matter what it smells like .
We've a bunch of medals that were never competed for so we're intent on getting our money back. Three entries would do it, that's how hard up we are.
I'll have a look at the calendar and see what we can arrange.0 -
We're a money grubbing financially motivated bunch of capitalists. If it pays, we'll do it, doesn't matter what it smells like .
We've a bunch of medals that were never competed for so we're intent on getting our money back. Three entries would do it, that's how hard up we are.
I'll have a look at the calendar and see what we can arrange.
If you're shooting air - I'm there (If she lets me...)
When I get my SSP, I'll see you at all the matches (If she lets me..). Consider me a minority investor :cool:0 -
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Steady now Sparks - take a deep breath - in through the nose .....,
I was only indicating that they may not travel to Rathdrum as
a) they are skint
b) they don't have any firearms
c) there's a two for one special on vodka/red bulls in the College bar that day.
d) they have to go home to get mammy to do their washing
e) etc.
When the matches are held in the college where there is no outlay and they are already there and the firearms and ammo are provided, of course you will get larger/any numbers.
I'll bet if you had it followed by naked darts you'd get even more
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Steady now Sparks - take a deep breath - in through the nose .....,
I was only indicating that they may not travel to Rathdrum as
a) they are skint
b) they don't have any firearms
c) there's a two for one special on vodka/red bulls in the College bar that day.
d) they have to go home to get mammy to do their washing
e) etc.
When the matches are held in the college where there is no outlay and they are already there and the firearms and ammo are provided, of course you will get larger/any numbers.
I'll bet if you had it followed by naked darts you'd get even more
B'Man
TO be honest, there's no reason not to see the same turnout. It costs them nothing extra to get to Rathdrum as a rule since a few of us do the driving most of the time. I've driven a few hundred miles over the last year to and from matches. Firearms are brought with us on removal orders, and range officers and the match secretary deal with that, so members have no hassle, can't speak for part C, or D for that matter.
Realistically, it's difficult to see why they can't come to Rathdrum same as UCD. We don't hold matches in Trinity; our insurance doesn't cover it and the range is too small, but people still make it to Wilkinstown and UCD for air matches all the time, and Rathdrum for smallbore matches, so it's odd that they then don't go to Rathdrum for air matches. 0 -
Can I take you up on that bigred?
We've run two air shoots this year and not one person turned up. We ran one last year and had a similar turnout.
€40 might just cover the cost
And again, I argue the advertising was woeful!!
I heard nothing about these until well after the event, when you were giving out that DURC weren't there! I can't go (nor can I convince peopel to go!) if there I don't know about them.
DURC open always get good attendence as we spam, spam and spam our members as well as posting here and on the NTSA website. The more you plug, the more they will come! Saying 'well, it was on the calendar' isnt advertising, however sending me a couple of emails about is!0 -
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I've seen DURC do all that as well, but to be honest, it's passive (for lack of a better term). Unless someone goes and checks the website, it doesn't get to them (the email's a bit better, but still seems to miss a lot of shooters). It's a facet of the 2% problem I think - some shooters literally expect you to notify them personally of a match you want them to go to (we get the best results if we physically go up to a shooter and say "you're coming to the match on sunday" and harangue them). In defence of the newbies, mind, I spent four years shooting at a level where I could easily have gone to matches and done well, but noone ever told me there were matchs or even other clubs, let alone told me I was good enough to go to them or what was involved - it was a complete blind spot to me and if DURC hadn't co-opted me onto the committee (as match secretary, ironically enough) I'd never have known otherwise.
We're getting some good results out in WTSC with the SMS service as well, because that basicly does the same thing. Timing seems critical as well - too early and they forget, too late and they've booked something else.
On the other hand, once we actually get them there, they enjoy themselves immensely - it's just that, well, it's like they forget that they have fun at these things until you get them there 0 -
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I know the first one we ran, it was in the NTSA airgun league that was run in 2007. They were dropped because of poor attendance anyway although the idea was to keep people shooting through the summer and our one was in July or August.Deleted User wrote: »I just remember nearly dropping dead in the AGM in UCD when you said you had put on two Air gun matches. It was the first that I had heard of them, no one in DURC knew.
Well you're on it now and it's a much bigger list than it was a year ago, so perhaps the next time you'll get an email.For me personally, I need to get an email about a match in the week or so before it, otherwise I will forget and book something else on that day. I'm just unorganised in that manner but I doubt I'm the only one!
I've also updated the NTSA list from the membership forms, so that should be more effective as well.
As I said before, I'm not complaining and I'm not giving up either. 0
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