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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    Here's an interesting one. I'd normally have soya milk for breakfast but for the last few weeks I hadn't been mad hungry in the mornings so had just had fruit or an oat bar if anything. I started taking it with my weetabix again yesterday morning though and straightaway I felt my stomach get bloated, and it's the same today - it's seriously uncomfortable :/ I think I might be best cutting soya milk out completely, although then I'm losing out on the extra protein too which isn't great..

    It's funny how you never notice these things til you cut them out for a while! I wonder if that had anything to do with my weight doing down recently, my stomach has definitely felt alot flatter the past few weeks too.

    Not much stiffness from the squats yesterday, the wider stance is definitely helping, they feel way more steady and alot stronger. I figure it'll start hitting me once I get on to the third day though, there's a big difference between 45kg x 9 and 55kgx9! I used 93% of my 1rm to work out the increments but the only annoying thing is I'm going up in uneven numbers; yesterday was meant to be 46kg, but there aren't any .5 plates so I had to leave it at 45, and going to have the same prob over next few weeks with the likes of 56/61/69/71. I figure 1kg won't make much odds though!


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    G86 wrote: »
    Here's an interesting one. I'd normally have soya milk for breakfast but for the last few weeks I hadn't been mad hungry in the mornings so had just had fruit or an oat bar if anything. I started taking it with my weetabix again yesterday morning though and straightaway I felt my stomach get bloated, and it's the same today - it's seriously uncomfortable :/ I think I might be best cutting soya milk out completely, although then I'm losing out on the extra protein too which isn't great..
    I follow a couple of health/nutrition related blogs which I think are pretty decent, one of them being http://thehealthyskeptic.org/. He references his work pretty throughly and here is are a couple of articles that he has writtten about soy http://thehealthyskeptic.org/the-soy-ploy and http://thehealthyskeptic.org/soy-foods-associated-with-lower-sperm-counts
    One thing that I will say is that you have eliminated 2 things from your breakfast ie weetabix and soya milk and re-introduced both at the same time so I think that it is fair to say that it could be either of those foods that are causing you problems. Would you try and eat only one of them tomorrow (ie weetabix or soya milk), that way you could see what kind of reaction you are having to each particular food?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    I follow a couple of health/nutrition related blogs which I think are pretty decent, one of them being http://thehealthyskeptic.org/. He references his work pretty throughly and here is are a couple of articles that he has writtten about soy http://thehealthyskeptic.org/the-soy-ploy and http://thehealthyskeptic.org/soy-foods-associated-with-lower-sperm-counts
    One thing that I will say is that you have eliminated 2 things from your breakfast ie weetabix and soya milk and re-introduced both at the same time so I think that it is fair to say that it could be either of those foods that are causing you problems. Would you try and eat only one of them tomorrow (ie weetabix or soya milk), that way you could see what kind of reaction you are having to each particular food?
    Aye, only thing is that I've had weetabix with rice milk with no problems in the past so I don't think that's it...that's why I automatically assumed it was the soya milk.

    Thanks a mil for that, I'll check out the articles! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    Goblet Squats 7.5kg
    4 sets held for 60sec,40sec,40sec,36sec
    - these were a killer today, inner thighs were on fire!

    Smolov Week 1 Day 2
    Squats

    20kgx5
    30kgx5
    40kgx5

    50kgx7x5

    Taking longer rests between the squats now (i.e more than 30 secs haha:pac:)and definitely feeling the difference.

    1000m row: 4:53

    5k run: 26:41


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭Molly


    G86 wrote: »
    1000m row: 4:63

    Are you using some kind of new fangled time system? :) Best of luck with smolov & Coan. You seem to be going pretty well so far


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    Molly wrote: »
    Are you using some kind of new fangled time system? :) Best of luck with smolov & Coan. You seem to be going pretty well so far

    haha typo! Should have been 4.53:rolleyes: I'll fix it now!

    Cheers yeah, should be interesting once the weights get a bit heavier!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    How bad of an idea would it be to do Murph (aka 300 squats) when I've squatted twice this week and have to DL near max tomorrow...?

    Answers on a postcard please..... :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    G86 wrote: »
    How bad of an idea would it be to do Murph (aka 300 squats) when I've squatted twice this week and have to DL near max tomorrow...?

    Answers on a postcard please..... :pac:

    God dammit, if you're going to ruin your recovery at least do it properly!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    God dammit, if you're going to ruin your recovery at least do it properly!

    Well it's meant to be a conditioning session, so it's either metcon or just run - and I reaallly don't want to run.

    Any bright ideas?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    G86 wrote: »
    Well it's meant to be a conditioning session, so it's either metcon or just run - and I reaallly don't want to run.

    Any bright ideas?!

    Death By C and J :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Yeah that totally won't eat into her deadlifting potential...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    Death By C and J :p

    HAHAHAHA. No.

    Meh, prob just do a few sprints with some KB swings then so!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    dumb question but if you are going to be deadlifting a max or very near max tomorrow why not just rest today? Conditioning is great and all but surely when running a specialisation programme you want to cut back on the other stuff, especially anything that might hurt your performance in the main lift, such as repetitive hip hinging and running....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Magic Eight Ball


    G86 wrote: »
    How bad of an idea would it be to do Murph (aka 300 squats) when I've squatted twice this week and have to DL near max tomorrow...?

    Well if you ever wanna get your 100kg squat or new deadlift PR you'll have to knock crap like that on the head.

    Sure you know it's a bad idea, you wouldn't be asking otherwise.
    If your gonna spoil your recovery, do it with alcohol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    dumb question but if you are going to be deadlifting a max or very near max tomorrow why not just rest today? Conditioning is great and all but surely when running a specialisation programme you want to cut back on the other stuff, especially anything that might hurt your performance in the main lift, such as repetitive hip hinging and running....

    I actually asked Will about this last week, and he made a pretty good point, which was that if I'm not having recovery problems(which I'm not as yet) then sureI've no reason not to do it :) Everyones different. If it does start having an effect then I'll look at it then.

    Sure I had people telling me not to run Smolov and CP together too but that's going grand so far. My trainings always been pretty high volume so I don't think it'll have much of an effect. My plan at the mo is 3 Strength Days and 1 Conditioning day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    G86 wrote: »
    I actually asked Will about this last week, and he made a pretty good point, which was that if I'm not having recovery problems(which I'm not as yet) then sureI've no reason not to do it :) Everyones different. If it does start having an effect then I'll look at it then.

    Sure I had people telling me not to run Smolov and CP together too but that's going grand so far. My trainings always been pretty high volume so I don't think it'll have much of an effect. My plan at the mo is 3 Strength Days and 1 Conditioning day.

    Exactly.

    I'd say i've trained 40 out of the last 50 days, and only one side of my body has shut down.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    G86 wrote: »
    I actually asked Will about this last week, and he made a pretty good point, which was that if I'm not having recovery problems(which I'm not as yet) then sureI've no reason not to do it :) Everyones different. If it does start having an effect then I'll look at it then.

    Sure I had people telling me not to run Smolov and CP together too but that's going grand so far. My trainings always been pretty high volume so I don't think it'll have much of an effect. My plan at the mo is 3 Strength Days and 1 Conditioning day.

    Bingo. Everyone's so concerned with over training that they don't realise you can force your body to adapt to the volume.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    G86 wrote: »
    I actually asked Will about this last week, and he made a pretty good point, which was that if I'm not having recovery problems(which I'm not as yet) then sureI've no reason not to do it :) Everyones different. If it does start having an effect then I'll look at it then.

    Sure I had people telling me not to run Smolov and CP together too but that's going grand so far. My trainings always been pretty high volume so I don't think it'll have much of an effect. My plan at the mo is 3 Strength Days and 1 Conditioning day.

    Reminds me of the stuff I have read on adding conditioning when you have only trained for strength.
    They all talk about loosing strength when you start but then getting it back as you get used to it.

    But if you have been doing it all along, why would it suddenly start affecting you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Reminds me of the stuff I have read on adding conditioning when you have only trained for strength.
    They all talk about loosing strength when you start but then getting it back as you get used to it.

    But if you have been doing it all along, why would it suddenly start affecting you?

    Exactly! I've always done both, and lately I've more of a focus on strength, but it doesn't mean I want to drop conditioning. Yes, I want to get stronger, but I still want to look good too! :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    G86 wrote: »
    I want to get stronger, but I still want to look good too! :P

    IDIBISHDI :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Hanley wrote: »
    IDIBISHDI :p

    would you ever fuck off!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    Serious fcuking headache = bed for the eve, so no training. Beginning to sound like a bloody broken record:mad:

    Seems to me it's my stupid fecking sinusitus that's screwing up my recovery more than my workouts!!! Have had it looked into, goes back years and waiting to see another specialist - but til then it's just a case of putting up with it. It's just annoying when it impacts my routine.

    Planning to throw some cardio after CP tomorrow to make up for it. Have the 107.5kgx2 tomorrow, fingers crossed I get the double or I'm going to be in a seriously pissy mood!!! (this is just borderline pissed!:pac:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    Wasn't in the mood for this today, still feeling sh!!te, but a bit of a slaggin got me to the gym...

    Coan Phillipi Week 4


    Deadlift

    60kgx5
    70kgx5
    80kgx3
    A moan to COH about how I couldn't lift more than 80kg..
    Then
    95kgx1
    107.5kgx2 Rep PR:)

    Speed DLs
    90kgx1
    80kgx3
    80kgx3
    80kgx3
    80kgx2/1

    Speeds were a load of sh!te, were meant to be 90kg 5x3 and I just couldn't lift it. Hurt my lower back somehow and was getting a jolt in it everytime I pulled the bar. Meh.

    Circuit
    x 3x8
    SLDL X 60kg
    Bent Over Row x 30kg
    Inv Rows
    GM's x 20kg/30kg/30kg

    Was wrecked after that so I was outta there pronto.
    I don't know whether to be happy about the PR or annoyed about the stupid speeds. I'll let you know later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭gymfreak


    G86 wrote: »
    107.5kgx2 Rep PR:)

    SAVAGE!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Lolz I remember you freaking out over trying to pull 110kg x1 about a month ago. Serious progress!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    Hanley wrote: »
    Lolz I remember you freaking out over trying to pull 110kg x1 about a month ago. Serious progress!!

    haha I freaked out over this one too:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭COH


    Savage stuff today, well done... less moaning, more just f*cking lifting :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,333 ✭✭✭✭itsallaboutheL


    Well done kiddo!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    G86 wrote: »
    107.5kgx2 Rep PR

    AWESOME!

    Keep it up!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    now arent you glad i slagged you on fb?


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