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MHRV in a 50 year old house

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  • 16-12-2008 12:22am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭


    Has anyone installed MHRV in a refurb of an old house?

    I am planning to carry it out in a refurb of a 50 year old house.
    Obviously this is a lot easier in a new build, where airtightness is a relatively straightfoward process.

    I am refurbing everything, concrete floor, new double glazed windows, attic insulation, new doors, sealing chimneys etc, so it would be a shame to have to open up dead holes to vent the house.

    I am wondering has anyone out there carried it out on an old build, with perhaps moderate air tightness levels.

    What would the ESB running costs be expected for a MHRV ?

    Thanks,
    H4L.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭RKQ


    If the refurbishment involves making the existing structure airtight then a MHVR is worth considering. This may involve removing and replacing plaster to external walls and ceilings.

    There are a number on the market, seem to cost very little to run. Maybe check out manufactures IAB Cert etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Home4Life


    RKQ and Eoghan,

    thanks for your replies.

    I am amazed that no-one has done MHRV on an old house!

    Its actully pushing me to do it just to see if I can make it work !
    It seems like the most renewable way of heating of all,
    and ensuring the health of a house is increased,
    which is something I sense a lot of people simply ignore.

    I think it seems to be one of the lower cost options toi install,
    the running costs are almost negligible (€100 a year),
    so I cant see why more people dont do it.

    I do plan to make the hosue as airtight as possible,
    I know that this is a vital consideration,

    H4L


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    I looked at this recently with DEAP to hand .

    If Q50 = 10 then HRV is cost neutral to run . ( Igoring capital cost and payback period ) . As Q50 gets worse , then it actually costs more to run i.e. it loses heat .

    Q50 5 seems to be a concensus arising from many many talks i have had had HRV people i.e. if you don't get Q50 5 you should really not install HRV

    There is another way to "value" HRV , putting to one side payback periods and energy efficiency - health and comfort . i.e. you could decide to "invest" in those alone . Of course this assumes that the HRV installation is scrupulously maintained - i would not like to experience an HRV running with dirty filters ....

    Can you get an old house air tight ? - I recently extended and converted a 1930's dormer - Q50 - 2.6 ( no HRV )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Home4Life


    Sinnerboy,

    many thanks for that.
    I had heard nothing from people with exisiting older homes in relation to MHRV or air tightness tests.
    99% of the talk in these two areas seems to be from people embarking upon new builds.

    Your Q50 result has given me resolve - 3.5 is bloody impressive.

    While I am going to do everything to get it airtight, a neighbour of mine with an indentical house scored 15 after his refurb, though he is going back to see what he can do, and I have learned some things I can do up front to improve.

    Would you have any advice resulting from your spectacular result as to what I should do to achieve something like that?

    Many thanks,
    H4L


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