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UEFA Cup-5th round of group stage

  • 16-12-2008 11:22am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭


    December 18

    Group A


    19:45 Paris S.G. ? - ? FC Twente Enschede

    19:45 Racing Santander ? - ? Manchester C.



    Group B


    19:45 Benfica ? - ? Metalist Kharkiv

    19:45 Olympiakos Piraeus ? - ? Hertha BSC



    Group C


    19:45 Sampdoria ? - ? Sevilla

    19:45 Stuttgart ? - ? Standard Liege



    Group D


    19:45 NEC Nijmegen ? - ? Udinese

    19:45 Tottenham H. ? - ? Spartak Moscow



    December 17


    Group E


    19:45 AC Milan ? - ? Wolfsburg

    19:45 Portsmouth ? - ? SC Heerenveen



    Group F


    19:45 Ajax Amsterdam ? - ? Slavia Prague

    19:45 Hamburger SV ? - ? Aston Villa



    Group G


    19:45 Club Brugge ? - ? FC Copenhagen

    19:45 Saint-Etienne ? - ? Valencia



    Group H


    19:45 Deportivo La Coruna ? - ? Nancy

    19:45 Feyenoord Rotterdam ? - ? Lech Poznan




    Ok i expect Olympiacos to win and confirm they are through,they need a draw to go in the next round,i supose that wont be a problem to get,Hamburg-Villa will be very interesting,i am giving a small advantage to Hamburg,this is their last game this year and they will play to win while on the other hand i supose Villa wont play it with full power coz theres tough fixture in front of them


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    December 17


    Group E

    AC Milan - Wolfsburg X

    Portsmouth - SC Heerenveen X



    Group F

    Ajax Amsterdam - Slavia Prague 1

    Hamburger SV - Aston Villa 1



    Group G

    Club Brugge - FC Copenhagen X

    Saint-Etienne - Valencia 2



    Group H

    Deportivo La Coruna - Nancy 1

    Feyenoord Rotterdam - Lech Poznan X


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Marc Wilson is starting in tonight's non event at fratton Park. I haven't seen him play for Pompey yet, it will be interesting to see how he gets on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    Ok games for tonight started and we have first goals 14' Ajax Amsterdam 1 - 1 Slavia Prague

    4' [1 - 0] J. Vertonghen

    12' [1 - 1] J. Cerny


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    so Villa reserves are behind


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    id love to know why the hell the fonz is basically on the left wing


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Petric and Olic 2 - Villa Mk2 0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    ajax are trying to sabotage our bid to finish 3rd, theyve just gone 2-1 behind to slavia after being a goal up


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    3-5-2 now with the Fonz up front and Gardner and Shorey at WB.

    8 changes from the weekend in total. 0-2 HT vs Hamburg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    fonz on the left was the most pointless thing ive ever seen i have to say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    so Villa reserves are behind


    yup could be more too they hit the bar just on HT, reckon hamburglars will kill off the game 2nd half. Surprised villa stuck out the kids tbh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Surprised villa stuck out the kids tbh.

    why? we're already qualified. no point unnecessarily wearing out first teamers before an important chrimbo period


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Helix wrote: »
    why? we're already qualified. no point unnecessarily wearing out first teamers before an important chrimbo period

    Ensuring the best possible draw for next round ? A full villa team would get a result here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Ensuring the best possible draw for next round ? A full villa team would get a result here.

    the draw will be much of a muchness regardless imo

    a full villa team would get a result in most places in february. only team id be wary of would be milan tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito



    8 changes from the weekend in total.

    Not tryign to justify a defeat by mentioning the 2nd team in every post by any chance?:)


    Do the finishing positions in the group matter to the draw for the next round at all? Apparently Villa are 3rd in the group as it stands.

    EDIT really should have read all the posts before replying. :-)
    Helix wrote: »
    the draw will be much of a muchness regardless imo

    a full villa team would get a result in most places in february. only team id be wary of would be milan tbh

    Will there not be a few decent sides coming in from the CL? Does finishign 3rd put you in line to be drawn against Milan ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Not tryign to justify a defeat by mentioning the 2nd team in every post by any chance?:)


    Do the finishing positions in the group matter to the draw for the next round at all? Apparently Villa are 3rd in the group as it stands.


    Always use the reserve side thing whena thumping is a possibility :D

    Whoever doesnt come 1st and isnt seeded plays the CL teams. Which in fairness arent great this year, usually one of them is the favourite to win it but think AC still are.


    3-0 what a great strike.

    villa player down too ? EDIT whoever collided with keeper is down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Not tryign to justify a defeat by mentioning the 2nd team in every post by any chance?:)


    Do the finishing positions in the group matter to the draw for the next round at all? Apparently Villa are 3rd in the group as it stands.

    1st place in each group plays a 3rd place team from another group, second place plays a 3rd place champions league team

    theres no huge difference tbh

    3-0 btw


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Not tryign to justify a defeat by mentioning the 2nd team in every post by any chance?:)


    Do the finishing positions in the group matter to the draw for the next round at all? Apparently Villa are 3rd in the group as it stands.

    yep thats what im doing 3-0 now Ollic

    1st gets 3rd and 2nd gets CL dropouts methinks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Whoever doesnt come 1st and isnt seeded plays the CL teams. Which in fairness arent great this year, usually one of them is the favourite to win it but think AC still are..

    Fiorentina are in there. You dont really want to end up playing Zentih either, you can never tell if they will be playing with a ball or with money.:D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Barry Bannan on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Girondins Bordeaux # Fra
    Werder Bremen # Ger
    Shakhtar Donetsk # Ukr
    Olympique Marseille # Fra
    AaB Aalborg # Den
    Fiorentina # Ita
    Dinamo Kiev # Ukr
    Zenit St. Petersburg # Rus

    from a villa pov, i dont see anyone there that they shouldnt really beat.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Girondins Bordeaux # Fra
    Werder Bremen # Ger
    Shakhtar Donetsk # Ukr
    Olympique Marseille # Fra
    AaB Aalborg # Den
    Fiorentina # Ita
    Dinamo Kiev # Ukr
    Zenit St. Petersburg # Rus

    from a villa pov, i dont see anyone there that they shouldnt really beat.

    slightly easier group of teams by finishing 3rd tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Helix wrote: »
    slightly easier group of teams by finishing 3rd tho


    Imo its the opposite they the teams that actually want to win the UEFA cup and have form in it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    Imo its the opposite they the teams that actually want to win the UEFA cup and have form in it.

    with a 2 month gap between games, it really doesnt matter what their form was like up to now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Arsenal1986


    zenit, marseille and fiorentina would be no push overscant really say villa would be big favourites against any of them pus bremen beat inter last week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Helix wrote: »
    with a 2 month gap between games, it really doesnt matter what their form was like up to now


    lol i disagree :D

    imo the teams top of their groups and playing well know full well this is their best shot at a trophy they may well be in the CL next season but still want to win something. Quick look at the group toppers shows teams that possibly wont be winning their leagues and dont have the luxury of 4 CL spots.


    UEFA/CL form is rarely indictive of domestic form, not many teams win their league and a european trophy in the same season. quite odd actually, except last season of course :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    zenit, marseille and fiorentina would be no push overscant really say villa would be big favourites against any of them pus bremen beat inter last week


    theyre all coming from the cl, that means if we finish 2nd we play a cl team. the fact that we're losing 3-0 means that we're playing a uefa cup team instead


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    not that he knew anything about it but the Fonz scores again 3-1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    3-1

    another from the fonz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    3-1

    errmmm sidwell sent off soon after


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    sidwell sent off for 2 yellows

    both soft as fcuk


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    no sidwell in the next round so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    just for the first game


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭Samurai


    nice finish fonzy thought it was a fluke at first but after seeing the reply was a nice finish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    wahay

    milan finished second, we cant play them


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    Group E


    FT AC Milan 2 - 2 Wolfsburg

    FT Portsmouth 3 - 0 SC Heerenveen

    Wolfsburg 4 3 1 0 13 7 10
    Milan 4 2 2 0 8 5 8
    Braga 4 2 0 2 7 5 6
    Portsmouth 4 1 1 2 7 8 4
    Heerenveen 4 0 0 4 3 13 0


    Group F


    FT Ajax Amsterdam 2 - 2 Slavia Prague

    FT Hamburger SV 3 - 1 Aston Villa



    Hamburg 4 3 0 1 7 3 9
    Ajax 4 2 1 1 5 4 7
    Aston Villa 4 2 0 2 5 6 6
    Žilina 4 1 1 2 3 4 4
    Slavia Praha 4 0 2 2 2 5 2



    Group G


    FT Club Brugge 0 - 1 FC Copenhagen

    FT Saint-Etienne 2 - 2 Valencia


    St Etienne 4 2 2 0 9 4 8
    Valencia 4 1 3 0 8 4 6
    København 4 1 2 1 4 5 5
    Club Brugge 4 0 3 1 2 3 3
    Rosenborg 4 0 2 2 1 8 2



    Group H


    FT Deportivo La Coruna 1 - 0 Nancy

    FT Feyenoord Rotterdam 0 - 1 Lech Poznan



    CSKA Moskva 4 4 0 0 12 5 12
    Deportivo 4 2 1 1 5 4 7
    Lech 4 1 2 1 5 5 5
    Nancy 4 1 1 2 8 7 4
    Feyenoord 4 0 0 4 1 10 0



    Ok,i am glad for some results,Milan and valencia are 2nd in their groups so Olympiacos will avoid them in next round and thats good,also i am glad i was right when i said hamburg will win in group F,croatian strikers Olic-Petric function perfect in this season so far and wtf is going on with feyenoord this season,they sucked so much in UEFA Cup and in national league not to mention,they are close to relegate position


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    Group E


    FT AC Milan 2 - 2 Wolfsburg

    FT Portsmouth 3 - 0 SC Heerenveen

    Wolfsburg 4 3 1 0 13 7 10
    Milan 4 2 2 0 8 5 8
    Braga 4 2 0 2 7 5 6
    Portsmouth 4 1 1 2 7 8 4
    Heerenveen 4 0 0 4 3 13 0


    Group F


    FT Ajax Amsterdam 2 - 2 Slavia Prague

    FT Hamburger SV 3 - 1 Aston Villa



    Hamburg 4 3 0 1 7 3 9
    Ajax 4 2 1 1 5 4 7
    Aston Villa 4 2 0 2 5 6 6
    Žilina 4 1 1 2 3 4 4
    Slavia Praha 4 0 2 2 2 5 2



    Group G


    FT Club Brugge 0 - 1 FC Copenhagen

    FT Saint-Etienne 2 - 2 Valencia


    St Etienne 4 2 2 0 9 4 8
    Valencia 4 1 3 0 8 4 6
    København 4 1 2 1 4 5 5
    Club Brugge 4 0 3 1 2 3 3
    Rosenborg 4 0 2 2 1 8 2



    Group H


    FT Deportivo La Coruna 1 - 0 Nancy

    FT Feyenoord Rotterdam 0 - 1 Lech Poznan



    CSKA Moskva 4 4 0 0 12 5 12
    Deportivo 4 2 1 1 5 4 7
    Lech 4 1 2 1 5 5 5
    Nancy 4 1 1 2 8 7 4
    Feyenoord 4 0 0 4 1 10 0



    Ok,i am glad for some results,Milan and valencia are 2nd in their groups so Olympiacos will avoid them in next round and thats good,also i am glad i was right when i said hamburg will win in group F,croatian strikers Olic-Petric function perfect in this season so far and wtf is going on with feyenoord this season,they sucked so much in UEFA Cup and in national league not to mention,they are close to relegate position

    The reasons for Hamburg winning the group were more complicated than that though, if Villa had something to play for today, it may well have been a different story.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    DSB wrote: »
    The reasons for Hamburg winning the group were more complicated than that though, if Villa had something to play for today, it may well have been a different story.


    I agree,a lot of teams in UEFA Cup calculating and not playing as good as they can,dont know why,i saw a lot of teams playing with 2nd squad,maybe they are not interested in this,but still who knows what would be if...Hamburg have won tonight and thats what counts,who knows what would be if Villa played with best 11,maybe they would loose again...maybe not...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    December 18

    Group A


    Paris S.G.- FC Twente Enschede 1

    Racing Santander - Manchester C. 1



    Group B


    Benfica ? - ? Metalist Kharkiv X

    Olympiakos Piraeus - Hertha BSC 1



    Group C


    Sampdoria - Sevilla 2

    Stuttgart - Standard Liege X



    Group D


    NEC Nijmegen - Udinese X

    Tottenham H. - Spartak Moscow X


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    HT

    City and Spuds losing 2-0

    From BBC..........

    2031: Half-time Tottenham 0-2 Spartak Moscow
    Harry's team are booed from the field.



    ffs like, they finally start performing like they can (thank you 'arry) and this is the response as soon as it goes bad?! They've got no Bent, Pavlyuchenko, Lennon, Corluka or Woodgate!

    Bit harsh laike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Not long in, I take it theres no match on telly?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Dave! wrote: »
    Harry's team are booed from the field.

    christ almighty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Whats the Olimpiakos V Hertha Score?

    Wanting Hertha to win tonight to make sure Scotland keeps its automatic CL place for 2010


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    oh well, 2-0 to the greeks :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Wanting Hertha to win tonight to make sure Scotland keeps its automatic CL place for 2010

    wow, didn't realise that was at risk.

    COME ON OLIMPIAKOS

    :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Des wrote: »
    wow, didn't realise that was at risk.

    COME ON OLIMPIAKOS

    :pac::pac:

    I'lll listen to you when Ireland gets an automatic place! :P (Or even a place! :D)

    EDIT 4-0 to the Greeks.

    DAMN YOU DELIJA SERVA o (or however the hell you name is spelt):P


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    Eirebear wrote: »
    Whats the Olimpiakos V Hertha Score?

    Wanting Hertha to win tonight


    :pac::pac::pac:


    AAAAAAAAhahahahahahah omg you are the king,made me laugh so much thanks!!!:pac:


    Dude its obvious you are not up to some football clubs and their performance,i would kill my self if it was even a draw tonight and not Olympiacos victory:D

    Maybe you should watch them once when they play at home to realise why

    We are in brotherhood with them for 20 years already and have kinda same fanatic fans,its very hard to win games like these coz every guest team gets scared;)

    I am glad they won it,first Benfica 5-1 now Hertha 4-0,great performance and i supose too loud atmosphere:D

    I bet theres no team Olympiacos cant beat at home at the moment,fans making them to give 120% every time and results showing that,if they would only play 20% better on away games they would be ranked really good in european cups every season

    Tip: never bet on away team playing in Pireus;)


    Anyway all the results from tonight and final tables

    Group A


    FT Paris S.G. 4 - 0 FC Twente Enschede

    FT Racing Santander 3 - 1 Manchester C.

    Man. City 4 2 1 1 6 5 7
    Twente 4 2 0 2 5 8 6
    PSG 4 1 2 1 7 5 5
    Racing 4 1 2 1 6 5 5
    Schalke 4 1 1 2 5 6 4


    Group B


    FT Benfica 0 - 1 Metalist Kharkiv

    FT Olympiakos Piraeus 4 - 0 Hertha BSC


    Metalist 4 3 1 0 3 0 10
    Galatasaray 4 3 0 1 4 1 9
    Olympiacos 4 2 0 2 9 3 6
    Hertha 4 0 2 2 1 6 2
    Benfica 4 0 1 3 2 9 1


    Group C


    FT Sampdoria 1 - 0 Sevilla

    FT Stuttgart 3 - 0 Standard Liege


    Standard 4 3 0 1 5 3 9
    Stuttgart 4 2 1 1 6 3 7
    Sampdoria 4 2 1 1 4 5 7
    Sevilla 4 2 0 2 5 2 6
    Partizan 4 0 0 4 1 8 0


    Group D


    FT NEC Nijmegen 2 - 0 Udinese

    FT Tottenham H. 2 - 2 Spartak Moscow


    Udinese 4 3 0 1 6 4 9
    Tottenham 4 2 1 1 7 4 7
    NEC 4 2 0 2 6 5 6
    Spartak Moskva 4 1 1 2 5 6 4
    Dinamo Zagreb 4 1 0 3 4 9 3


    If i could choose i would take Udinese,Manchester City,Wolfsburg or St Ettiene for Olympiacos on tommorows draw


    Best luck everyone


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    Holy crap i just realised Sevilla is out!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    AAAAAAAAhahahahahahah omg you are the king,made me laugh so much thanks!!!


    Dude its obvious you are not up to some football clubs and their performance,i would kill my self if it was even a draw tonight and not Olympiacos victory

    Maybe you should watch them once when they play at home to realise why

    We are in brotherhood with them for 20 years already and have kinda same fanatic fans,its very hard to win games like these coz every guest team gets scared

    I am glad they won it,first Benfica 5-1 now Hertha 4-0,great performance and i supose too loud atmosphere

    I bet theres no team Olympiacos cant beat at home at the moment,fans making them to give 120% every time and results showing that,if they would only play 20% better on away games they would be ranked really good in european cups every season

    Tip: never bet on away team playing in Pireus

    Meh, i couldnt really guve a toss about them so no....im not up to scratch on how theyre doing.

    Greek teams generally have a good record at home, but footballs a "funny old game" and sometimes teams get beaten.

    Anyway, who said i was expecting Hertha to win?
    I simply asked the score, now away you go and lie down...youll need a rest before one of your many teams around europe are playing again!:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭delija_sever029


    Eirebear wrote: »
    youll need a rest before one of your many teams around europe are playing again!:P


    Just one thing,i never take rest from football:cool:


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