3 "broadband" V Japan's Broadband

Altreab

We get 3 and Japan gets this!!! but i guess the cost to the consumer will really hold the rollout back. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

IRISH RAIL

When will consumers here be able to pay for what were getting:mad:

Bob the Builder

Well, the advantage japan has is that it's more densely populated, but other than that, the disadvantage ireland has is incompetence mixed with high costs...

We'll be lucky if even dublin sees this type of broadband within 5 years, and even luckier if mayo/donegal/galway see this within 15-20years.

Sponge Bob

the cities will get this within 10 years , as for the country :eek:

Thing is in japan they make the networks able to cope with people downloading Terabytes and terabytes worth of data, pushing the technology as much as they can.

Wereas in Ireland and the UK they throttle and implement 'Fair usage policies' to allow there dated infrastructure to cope with increasing amount of bandwidth, due to the rise of HD formats such as blueray and X264s ect.

Its just two different approched, in japan throttling would never be accepted but we simply allow ISPs to do what they want.

Snaga

Its more likely that the developments over in Japan are built with proper cabling requirements in mind. (This would include agreements to get fiber into the developments with local service providers).

Most apartment blocks in Ireland will get you one co-ax cable and one 2-pair cable for your phone line. Recabling a development afterwards costs a hell of a lot more money than putting it in right in the first place.

If theres fiber to each apartment (or even multiple cat5e/cat6 cables) then its easy to provide high speed services - see Magnets fiber developments for evidence of this - but the cabling needs to be done during construction, not after.

Unfortunately the building boom is over, very few developments were cabled with fast internet services in mind and there will be few new developments built over the next few years - so any service provider trying to offer these kinds of services will have to go through the huge cost of recabling.

Its not the ISP's who are screwing us, its the lack of building standards and vision from our government and the construction industry who have caused this problem - a little legislation would have gone a long way to solving last mile issues for apartment dwellers.

Japan has been doing high density building a lot longer than we have - it's unsurprising that they have their acts together.

Altreab

Sponge Bob wrote: »

the cities will get this within 10 years , as for the country :eek:

or to put it another way the broadband access in the high speed parts of Silicon Ireland are just 10 years behind the front runners. :rolleyes:

bealtine

Altreab wrote: »

or to put it another way the broadband access in the high speed parts of Silicon Ireland are just 10 years behind the front runners. :rolleyes:

You spelt silicon wrong...it's silly con especially when it comes to telecommunications in Ireland.