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AH in the last few months

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  • 21-12-2008 2:43pm
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    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭


    It's gotten awfully political hasn't it? Sign of the times but AH is for threads that don't belong anywhere else. Seeing as little more is said in these threads than "feckin disgrace" or "row row row fight tha powah" would it not be in everyone's best interest to send some of the traffic to the Politics fora?

    1. These people actually learn about politics
    2. We get our AH back
    3. It can only be beneficial that more people spend more time posting properly as is required in Politics

    Now I'm not saying an entire blitz of AH, it's pretty important to see the people's unrest so clearly but I think I just looked at the first 20 or so threads in there and 90% had some agenda about how the country is run.
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    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Ok.


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    Chong
    Registered Users Posts: 8,676 ✭✭✭Chong


    Kold wrote: »
    It's gotten awfully political hasn't it? Sign of the times but AH is for threads that don't belong anywhere else. Seeing as little more is said in these threads than "feckin disgrace" or "row row row fight tha powah" would it not be in everyone's best interest to send some of the traffic to the Politics fora?

    1. These people actually learn about politics
    2. We get our AH back
    3. It can only be beneficial that more people spend more time posting properly as is required in Politics

    Now I'm not saying an entire blitz of AH, it's pretty important to see the people's unrest so clearly but I think I just looked at the first 20 or so threads in there and 90% had some agenda about how the country is run.
    Seriously Kold your opening a dangerous can of worms by having a pop at AH.


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    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Aint nothin' but some Feedback.


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    sceptre
    Registered Users Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Kold wrote: »
    would it not be in everyone's best interest to send some of the traffic to the Politics fora?
    Always an option. Any moved threads would be governed under Politics rules though. I suspect lots of early bannings:) but that might well die off.

    People often tend to post those particular things in AH just wanting rant and banter and not expecting rational discussion of their points, which would happen in Politics (indeed, which would be an enforced necessity in Politics).


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    Économiste Monétaire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Économiste Monétaire


    AH doesn't really come across as somewhere one would find conducive debate, only pub type debate; threads there tend to get very large, very quickly. I would hazard to say that some prefer it that way, simple throw away remarks, rather than looking at details and producing sensible inferences. You might want to try Politics, or Economics. There's sometimes quite a bit of overlap between the general (e.g. AH) and specialist, so to speak, forums--just different ways of approaching issues. Different strokes, different folks, and such.


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    RoundyMooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Whats the harm?

    No harm in discussing current affairs in a more relaxed environment surely?


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    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    RoundyMooney wrote: »
    Whats the harm?

    No harm in discussing current affairs in a more relaxed environment surely?

    It's getting kind of boring in there.


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    RoundyMooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Suppose the lads could move relevant threads to Pol or Humanities.

    I have to be honest and say I don't see a problem myself though :)

    One mans meat...


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    Karoma
    Registered Users Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    Kold wrote: »
    It's getting kind of boring in there.

    So, is your complaint that AH is too political or that Politics is too boring?
    AH facilitates threads on political matters and current affairs that are more rants than actual debates. i.e. Pub banter / waffle.
    If there's an increase in these sorts of threads, then it's as you say: Sign of the times, etc. and a sign that the average boardsie is growing older (Maybe not wiser). I'd also point out that trends in AH tend to fade after a while. Maybe you could try to engage the AH'ers and maybe bring it up a notch?
    Some threads are moved to Politics; very few, as Politics doesn't want them.


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    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Karoma wrote: »
    So, is your complaint that AH is too political or that Politics is too boring?

    Well when I want to read about politics, I'll lurk in the Politics forum (I feel too intimidated to post there) so I guess it's just boring the sheer amount of political topics in AH. My complaint is that there's another place for it.


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    Earthhorse
    Registered Users Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    AH is a beast of a forum. Find the threads you like and post in them. Everyone goes through phases of hating the place. If you're growing tired of it, mabye it's time to take a break.


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    Sangre
    Registered Users Posts: 12,169 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    I agree, too many of the same topics appearing over and over. Maybe we could start a new 'rant' forum as a subset of AH. I enjoy the funny, random musing threads of AH where people can idly chat and propose random questions on life, love and bowel movements.


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    RoundyMooney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Kold wrote: »
    Well when I want to read about politics, I'll lurk in the Politics forum (I feel too intimidated to post there) so I guess it's just boring the sheer amount of political topics in AH. My complaint is that there's another place for it.

    There is, but many people are too intimidated to post there (or are like me, and find the place too stifling). One can call a spade a spade there, within reason.

    At the end of the day, I think politics discussion on AH is a positive trend, and I welcome the generally subtle yet effective moderation employed there by Terry, Herr K, AC, and latterly, Bollocko.


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    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Kold wrote: »
    I'll lurk in the Politics forum (I feel too intimidated to post there) ...
    Oh? Why?


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    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,235 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Jesus if it isnt people complaining that theres too much mysoginy and crap 1-liners in After Hours its complaining about people trying to talk about something with a bit of sincerity.
    Oh? Why?

    You're scary.


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    #17
    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Oh? Why?

    I don't feel I know enough on the subject to post with confidence.


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    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Kold wrote: »
    I don't feel I know enough on the subject to post with confidence.
    Fair enough. If you've an interest though, you can spend some time lurking and get to know the scene: won't be long until you realise that all too many of the posters there don't know that much either... ;)
    Overheal wrote: »
    You're scary.
    Well, duh. I meant apart from that...


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    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,235 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Politics Forum is like the serious business forum. It feels as if you dont know what your talking about that you arent welcome in the discussion - most of the ongoing discussions by the regular posters assume a certain level of trivia that not everyone that wants to post in there is going to be up to par with. Like that whole refugee/asylum business - people seemed to be either asking or assuming which way the system worked and they got roasted it.


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    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Overheal wrote: »
    Like that whole refugee/asylum business - people seemed to be either asking or assuming which way the system worked and they got roasted it.
    Nope. People came in claiming as fact something that's simply not true in order to paint asylum seekers in a bad light. There's enough xenophobia in the forum without people inventing imaginary laws that they can claim asylum seekers have broken.


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    sceptre
    Registered Users Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    ^what OB said. The asylum issue is one that often generates heated discussion where people assume they can get away with saying that black is white (no pun intended) if it suits their case. It's our most popular issue for tireless and relentless keyboard hammerers. Plenty of room in the forum (or in the subforums) for people who know less (or think that other people know more, which isn't always the case) and just want a discussion.


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    AlmightyCushion
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    After Hours seems to go through these trends. At the moment it's about the government and about the economic situation. Next week we could be back to poo threads again. We could move them to politics but in most cases anything after the first post (and in some cases the first post too) wouldn't be suitable for politics. I'm happy to leave the threads there as it's a more low brow type of discussion to politics and it's not like it'll cause any harm.

    After Hours is a busy place and the other threads should keep everyone not interested in these types of threads busy.


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    #23
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,235 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    After Hours seems to go through these trends. At the moment it's about the government and about the economic situation. Next week we could be back to poo threads again. We could move them to politics but in most cases anything after the first post (and in some cases the first post too) wouldn't be suitable for politics. I'm happy to leave the threads there as it's a more low brow type of discussion to politics and it's not like it'll cause any harm.

    After Hours is a busy place and the other threads should keep everyone not interested in these types of threads busy.
    AH needs its own Zodiac calendar.


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    Red Sleeping Beauty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Kold wrote: »
    It's gotten awfully political hasn't it? Sign of the times but AH is for threads that don't belong anywhere else. Seeing as little more is said in these threads than "feckin disgrace" or "row row row fight tha powah" would it not be in everyone's best interest to send some of the traffic to the Politics fora?

    1. These people actually learn about politics
    2. We get our AH back
    3. It can only be beneficial that more people spend more time posting properly as is required in Politics

    Now I'm not saying an entire blitz of AH, it's pretty important to see the people's unrest so clearly but I think I just looked at the first 20 or so threads in there and 90% had some agenda about how the country is run.

    No one cares. "feedback" isn't paid any attention really.


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    #25
    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    alan dunne 27 wrote: »
    No one cares. "feedback" isn't paid any attention really.

    And you've figured that in your 6 months here. Do you speak for everyone, yeah?


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    #26
    Karoma
    Registered Users Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    Kold: Don't rise to it.
    alan dunne 27 wrote: »
    No one cares. "feedback" isn't paid any attention really.
    You're wrong. I won't explain why, as you won't pay any attention really.


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    #27
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Kold, just do what I do, read the first few posts in a thread and if you don't like it then don't read it, there are plenty more where it came from. Life is too short to let stuff like this get to you.


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    #28
    The_Minister
    Registered Users Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Nope. People came in claiming as fact something that's simply not true in order to paint asylum seekers in a bad light. There's enough xenophobia in the forum without people inventing imaginary laws that they can claim asylum seekers have broken.
    Can you post a link rebutting the assertion?

    I must confess that I thought it was true. I even seem to recall reading a section of an international treaty that mentioned it.


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    #29
    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    SteveC wrote: »
    Kold, just do what I do, read the first few posts in a thread and if you don't like it then don't read it, there are plenty more where it came from. Life is too short to let stuff like this get to you.

    Haha I'm not on some kind of quest here. Just offering a point of view. It looks like I'm in the minority, fair enough.


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    jaffa20
    Registered Users Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    Kold wrote: »
    Aint nothin' but some Feedback.

    Feedback forum that way
    >

    AH isn't the place for feedback :pac::pac:


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    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Kold wrote: »
    Haha I'm not on some kind of quest here. Just offering a point of view. It looks like I'm in the minority, fair enough.
    Fair enough.:)
    I actually agree with what you are saying somewhat but I think AH accommodates a lot of topics and there is no need at all to restrict that.
    It's just bar talk and a place for people to get stuff off their chest if they need a rant. Moving a rant thread to politics might get the OP banned but letting them vent a bit in AH will make them feel warm and fuzzy again and would probably better serve boards as a whole.


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