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Mary Coughlan - Your views
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23-12-2008 2:16am#1
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Ryan is as thick and as utterly visionless and unprincipled as is Mary Coughlan . He should be disposed of for the same reason as the useless Coughlan
Gormley has some promise. So does Ciarán Cuffe but Cuffe has no experience at this time .
O Cuiv and Seán Ardagh are not clueless or lacking in the essential pragmatic patriotism required of a government of national unity either , unlike Coughlan and Ryan.
Is there no blueshirt with a brain ...looking at that list ...I thought Michael Noonan deserved a mention as well as Shatter and Enright ...Shatter should surely be cabinet material ???0 -
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Anyone in Dun Laoghaire who once thought the Greens had principles. He'll be gone after the next election, he barely beat Richard Boyd Barrett last time (now that would have been interesting...)Frankie Lee wrote: »What sort of person even voted Cuffe in the first place. How did he get elected in the first place, he is a fool and does not seem to have any redeeming features at all.
He'd be entertaining but personally I'd rather a dictatorship led by a triumvirate of Haughey, Lawlor and Flynn.personally I would like to see Joe Higgins as Taoiseach.
On topic, has Mary Coughlan done anything other than smile sarcastically and whinge to Michael Dell (now that was cringeworthy) since being appointed Tánaiste?
No, that was Liam Twomey. Reilly was elected for the first time in 2007 and has been very impressive by all accounts. Prior to that he was the president of the IMO, a point which a lot of people like to use against him, but in reality he did the job he was appointed to do at the time very well. I believe he would do the same as Minister for Health.Good God, was he the spokesman for Health during the Election. Harney made him sound useless and made colocation (were'd it go?) sound great!
Anyway, the list:
Kenny - generally a poor media performer but a top quality leader.
Bruton - speaks nothing but sense, and the vast majority of people seem to agree, whether they'd ever vote FG or not.
Reilly - see above.
Gormley - I'd like to see him appear in the Dáil now and then. Seems a bit fixated on minor issues, and I've lost all respect for the Greens in general, but I think he could have been a lot more effective if they'd got Transport as well.
Ryan - his mannerisms irritate me, but he's far from the worst in there.
Harney (not in health) - she's been an absolute disaster in Health, and I don't think we're ever going to see her in another position again, but despite my regular disagreement with her ideology I have a grudging admiration for her.
Lenihan (not in Finance, Justice) - I'd have liked to have seen him left in Justice a while longer, I think it would have suited him. A disaster so far in Finance, and I've a suspicion his appointment to the post was no accident.
Ned O'Keefe - Who?
Dermot Ahern - probably the best FF have right now.
Michael Martin - irritates me, but I give him a lot of credit for the smoking ban. Fairly OK.
Eamon Gilmore - don't agree with everything he says, but do agree with the vast majority of it. Very principled, a strong politician and an excellent speaker. He'd make a great Tánaiste (or Taoiseach, but that'll never happen.) Maybe Justice?
Ruairi Quinn - Level-headed and experienced. He'd be a welcome addition to any Cabinet.
Howlin - Not sure. I don't know a huge amount about him, although that's probably my fault rather than his. Any notable achievements?
Rabbitte - decent, would make a fairly good minister, but I'm glad Gilmore's the leader these days.
Shane Ross - impressive, but it's easy to do so in the Seanad. I'd like to see him given the chance though.
Fergal Quinn - as for Shane Ross, but again would be worth a shot.
David Norris - Great admiration for this man. He thinks outside the box. I'll have to qualify it the same way as the other two though. Has he ever run for the Dáil actually?
Francis Fitzgerald - Who's he? Frances Fitzgerald would probably be good, but I'll stick my 'Seanad' statement from above on as well.
Mary Upton - Don't know enough.
Dick Roche - I'm not even going there.
John O'Donoghue - blows up too easily.
Barry Andrews - his father/uncle/whatever might have had something going for him. I don't think Barry does, too snide, although a spell in Opposition might sort that out.[/QUOTE]0 -
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The_Minister wrote: »Cuffe? Cuffe is useless beyond measure, I'd keep Ryan in before him any day.
Cuffe is one of those politicians that manages to do no real national or local work, yet convinces everyone that they aren't doing one because they are doing the other.
Seems to be all PR really, no major substance to him.Sponge Bob wrote: »True.
Conor Cruise O Brien was the most useless Minister for Communications of the lot , even worse than Eamon Ryan and Noel Dempsey ....and that is saying something
Yet Conor had 'acumen' !
Indeed, though he had strong principles, too strong at times!
I think Garrett would be a better example of the above.Frankie Lee wrote: »What sort of person even voted Cuffe in the first place. How did he get elected in the first place, he is a fool and does not seem to have any redeeming features at all.
I remember hearing an interview with Micheal O'Leary and Kevin Myers on Newstalk and he was absolutely ripped to pieces on an issue he was right on but still messed it up.
I'd agree with most of what The Minister and Seanie said but personally I would like to see Joe Higgins as Taoiseach.
Ah, I'd love that, seriously. He wouldn't know what to fix first!Anyone in Dun Laoghaire who once thought the Greens had principles. He'll be gone after the next election, he barely beat Richard Boyd Barrett last time (now that would have been interesting...)
He'd be entertaining but personally I'd rather a dictatorship led by a triumvirate of Haughey, Lawlor and Flynn.
On topic, has Mary Coughlan done anything other than smile sarcastically and whinge to Michael Dell (now that was cringeworthy) since being appointed Tánaiste?
No, that was Liam Twomey. Reilly was elected for the first time in 2007 and has been very impressive by all accounts. Prior to that he was the president of the IMO, a point which a lot of people like to use against him, but in reality he did the job he was appointed to do at the time very well. I believe he would do the same as Minister for Health.
Coughlan really is the same as most of the other Ministers though in that respect. Dermot Ahern would have been the best choice.
Cheers, Jaysus Twomey was bad. Harney beat him hands down.Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.
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