Madrid to appeal over Diarra and Huntelaar

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Madrid to appeal over Diarra and Huntelaar

Friday, 26 December 2008 19:00

Real Madrid intend to appeal to UEFA to register both Lassana Diarra and Klaas Jan Huntelaar to play in the Champions League next year.
The club released a statement today claiming that they have a 'different interpretation' of UEFA regulations that state only one player who has already played in Europe this season can be registered.

Dutch striker Huntelaar played in the Champions League with Ajax while Diarra represented Portsmouth in the UEFA Cup prior to both players agreeing deals which will see them move to Madrid on 1 January.

Madrid made the statement in response to an article in today's edition of Marca which claimed the club would be forced to choose which of the new signings to add to the Champions League squad.

Madrid's statement suggested the club will argue before UEFA that the rule should not apply to Diarra as he played in the UEFA Cup, not the Champions League.

The statement said: 'The club's lawyers were aware of the fact that one of the two aforementioned players couldn't be registered to play in the Champions League due to an interpretation of a UEFA regulation, but they nevertheless think there can be another interpretation of articles 17.17 and 17.18 of the said regulation as they believe it tries to avoid the compromising of the competition by a footballer participating with a new team when he had previously done so with another.

'It seems obvious to them that there is no risk of this happening since the player participated in two different competitions. The club will therefore make its argument known to UEFA.'

Madrid's statement also denied that the double signing represented a panic buy with injuries cutting into the squad as they have fallen 12 points behind Barcelona in the Primera Liga, leaving them in fifth place.
Diarra and Huntelaar will provide cover for Mahamadou Diarra and Ruud van Nistelrooy, both of whom are out for the season with knee injuries.
The statement continued: 'The signings of Huntelaar and Lassana Diarra, as well as other signings that could follow, came about due to necessities of the club - derived from numerous and serious injuries suffered by key players - that had to be addressed, but they could in no way fail to be part of a mid- to long-term plan.

'This is proven by the sums of money that were invested in the signings and by the fact that the new players' contracts last for more than four years.'

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/1226/realmadrid.html



17.17 For all matches from the start of the first knockout round, a club may register
a maximum of three new eligible players for the remaining matches in the
current competition. Such registration must be completed by
1 February 2008 at the latest. This deadline cannot be extended.

17.18 One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered, provided that the player has not been fielded:
− in the same competition for another club
− for another club that is currently in the same competition.
Furthermore, if the player’s new club is playing in the UEFA Cup, his former
club must not have played in the UEFA Cup at any point in the current
season.



Typical Real Madrid thinking that the there is one rule for them and another for everybody else. If UEFA actually rule in their favour it would be a joke. Some audacity to even challenge this in my opinion.

Helix

a player can play in the uefa and then in the champions league

and ajax didnt play in the champions league this year did they?

real are spot on, they should be able to play both (unless ive missed something and ajax were actually in the cl)

DSB

The rule is that you're only allowed do that with 1 player per season, so no they aren't really spot on, unless you think the rules that other clubs have had to adhere to, should be changed for them. Which is what they think.

redout

Helix wrote: »

a player can play in the uefa and then in the champions league

and ajax didnt play in the champions league this year did they?

real are spot on, they should be able to play both (unless ive missed something and ajax were actually in the cl)

Brother please read again before posting. I posted the UEFA regulations in question in the opening post so people could see them before posting. The rules clearly state one player can be registered. Now unless I am missing something Diarra plus Huntelaar equals two. They are trying to get their lawyers to bend the rules to suit themselves.

pablomakaveli

This would'nt even be listened to if it was a smaller club. It's ridiculous.

LuckyLloyd

pablomakaveli wrote: »

This would'nt even be listened to if it was a smaller club. It's ridiculous.

Whatever, they have a point - and if they argue their case successfully I'll say more power to them.

redout

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Whatever, they have a point - and if they argue their case successfully I'll say more power to them.

How do they have a point. Please expand on your comment so we know what it is you are saying exactly as I cannot see what they are trying to do being in anyway correct as it contradicts the UEFA regulations.



EDIT: Marca are saying that Real ****ed up and dont rate Real's chances of getting UEFA to bend the rules. They are saying the board of directors is calling for someones head over this fiasco with Mijatovic being singled out. Calderon was reportedly in shock when told they could only use one of the players they had signed. So Madrid made the signings without knowing the rules and now are trying to say that they were aware all along. All does not sound well and now they are looking to sign another player who will be eligible to play in the competition. How the **** could someone at the club not know this ? Some of the lads on here even knew this rule existed and we actually discussed it on here a few weeks ago ! This board of this club become more of a joke every week.

redout

NOTW picking up on the story now.


PENNANT STILL IN MADRID SIGHTS
Spaniards drop transfer window clanger


REAL DEAL - Jermaine Pennant
By ANDY DUNN, 27/12/2008

REAL MADRID will step up their interest in Jermaine Pennant and Antonio Valencia after their massive transfer window clanger.

Madrid have targeted Portsmouth’s Lassana Diarra, Klass Jan Huntelaar from Ajax and a right-winger like Liverpool’s Pennant.


UEFA rules let a club sign three new players who have not played in the Champions League.


But Real did not realise only ONE of them is allowed to have appeared in the UEFA Cup.


Diarra, who played in the UEFA Cup for Pompey, now faces being left out as Huntelaar also played in the competition.


Real contacted Pennant, 25, but his wage demands KO’d a deal.


Coach Juande Ramos prefers Wigan’s Valencia, 23, or Boro’s inexperienced Adam Johnson, 21.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/111588/PENNANT-STILL-IN-MADRID-SIGHTS.html

redout

Uefa dash Real pair's hopes

Uefa spokesman says rules can not be changed concerning Huntelaar and Diarra

Uefa spokesman William Gaillard has quashed Real Madrid's hopes of playing both Klaas-Jan Huntelaar and Lassana Diarra in the knock-out stages of this season's Champions League.

Real recently signed striker Huntelaar and midfielder Diarra from Ajax and Portsmouth respectively.

Uefa rules state only one of the pair can play in the Champions League as both have already represented their former clubs in the Uefa Cup this season.

But the Spanish champions had hoped to convince Uefa to agree to a different interpretation of the rule so that both could take part.

But Uefa spokesman William Gaillard said on Onda Cero radio that Real must choose between the new signings.

Very sorry
"I am very sorry, but the rules are what they are and they cannot be changed in the middle of a season," he said.

"That means that only one of the two players can play in the Champions League. They can include either Huntelaar or Diarra."

Real have been drawn against Liverpool in the first knockout round of the Champions League on 25th February and 10th March.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_4718873,00.html


Shot Down so it would seem. Good news for Liverpool then and football in general if it sticks.

el rabitos

real wont be in the champions league long enough for it to matter :pac:

SantryRed

Adam Johnson to Real Madrid:eek:

pickarooney

I don't even understand how Real signed these two players outside of the transfer window. Can someone enlighten me?

L'prof

pickarooney wrote: »

I don't even understand how Real signed these two players outside of the transfer window. Can someone enlighten me?

You can agree to sign a player at any stage during the year as long as they don't play for you until the transfer window opens!

redout

Signed, sealed, delivered now fuvk off !



UEFA decision on Real Madrid
Thursday 8 January 2009

UEFA tonight confirmed that its Control and Disciplinary Body has reviewed the request of Real Madrid CF to be able to register two players who have already competed in UEFA competition this season as part of their A-list squad for the knockout rounds of the UEFA Champions League.

Regulations
The European body confirms that this was rejected in accordance with article 17.18 in the competition regulations which states that only one player who has played UEFA club competition matches for another competing club in the current season may exceptionally be registered. Any appeal to this decision will be heard next week.



Real Madrid are know supposedly considering taking this to the CAS.

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/keytopics/kind=512/newsid=791338.html

keane2097

It seems stupid to me that having played for a different club in a different competition rules you out for playing for your new club tbh...

The rules of course shouldn't be changed in the middle of the season but the rule should be changed alrite imo.

eZe^

keane2097 wrote: »

It seems stupid to me that having played for a different club in a different competition rules you out for playing for your new club tbh...

The rules of course shouldn't be changed in the middle of the season but the rule should be changed alrite imo.

It was made so that players can't attempt to sabotage or change the outcome of their clubs results in Europe before Christmas so that it may in some way give any sort of advantage to the team they join in the transfer window... If that makes sense, it does in my head anyway.... :pac:


eg- Diarra purposely playing badly against A.C Milan UEFA Cup, A.C Milan being aided by his performance, going through to the next stages and then Diarra joining them in January.

keane2097

eZe^ wrote: »

It was made so that players can't attempt to sabotage or change the outcome of their clubs results in Europe before Christmas so that it may in some way give any sort of advantage to the team they join in the transfer window... If that makes sense, it does in my head anyway.... :pac:


eg- Diarra purposely playing badly against A.C Milan UEFA Cup, A.C Milan being aided by his performance, going through to the next stages and then Diarra joining them in January.

No the point I'm making is that there's no reason why having played for a club in the UEFA Cup should stop a player playing for a different team in the Champions League...

redout

Sure it has always been standard procedure with the FA cup, league cup etc.

keane2097

redout wrote: »

Sure it has always been standard procedure with the FA cup, league cup etc.

So?

redout

keane2097 wrote: »

So?

So why are you surprised that Uefa apply the same regulations.

eZe^

Wait a minute, my example is wrong anyway... :pac:

keane2097

redout wrote: »

So why are you surprised that Uefa apply the same regulations.

I just think it's a stupid rule...

citytillidie

keane2097 wrote: »

It seems stupid to me that having played for a different club in a different competition rules you out for playing for your new club tbh...

The rules of course shouldn't be changed in the middle of the season but the rule should be changed alrite imo.

That was a rule change it used to be once you played in one European competition you were cup tied now they changed it so teams can register one cup tied player