Afghanistan and the history of Islamic terrorism against the west

Duffers

Mysterious;

'The crowning attainment of historical study is a historical sense - an intuitive understanding of how things do not happen.' - Lewis Namier
It is precisely that sense that conspiracy theorists lack. Instead they have a kind of facile, adolescent knowingness, resmbling nothing like proper, ordered knowledge, let alone the kind of instinctive wisdom Namier commended.

Your posts read as though they have been dictated to a monkey high on meth, translated through babelfish, then retyped by someone who has had half their brain removed.
But of course I'm only saying that because I just shape-shifted back from my reptilian form, which always makes me kind of grouchy. :rolleyes:

Manic Moran

mysterious wrote: »

This is horrific

Wars usually are. The sooner people return to grips with this reality, the better civilisation will be, I think.

Until then, however, I guess we will have to remind the world at large by first-hand-experience.

NTM

mysterious

Duffers wrote: »

Mysterious;


Your posts read as though they have been dictated to a monkey high on meth, translated through babelfish, then retyped by someone who has had half their brain removed.
But of course I'm only saying that because I just shape-shifted back from my reptilian form, which always makes me kind of grouchy. :rolleyes:

Maybe this is how you behave, but you project it onto others in the hope they don't point the fingers at you. People like you are fairly obvious, once the finger pointing begrudgery starts.

Sort it.:)

If you like these wars, get of your butt and fight them. yeah you.

RATM

Wow a lot of muddled opinions on this thread :eek:

OP if you want to understand the war in Afghanistan then you need a good grounding in the different strains of Islam,(Political,Missionary & Jihadi), how they came about and why. You'll also need to know about the differing strains of Jihad, (Internal, Irridentist and Global) and how they compete for different objectives and how some are justified in Islam and others are not.
The International Crisis Groups paper on it is an excellent starting point- you'll have to register with them to read the whole PDF but its free.
Other than that you need to know about security paradigms, how the west is still glued to realism and its reactionary nature when it comes to external threats.

If you want some more readings on Islam and the west then PM me, I have just written a thesis on the topic for my International Relations course so I can give you some good pointers.

mysterious

Jihadism and radical Christianity are the same practically. Christianity, Islam and judasim were all created by the master pupeteers 2000 years ago. These three religions were created to rival each other and to the master pupeteers to make the world interesting:rolleyes: Conflict and polarisation creates control. The power system all use the same methods to control the world and relgion does not excape this process.

Its ironic and to my conclusion, they hold alot of the same standards and beliefs, all have simalar symobolism, they believe in the one and only god. They all condemn the other. They thrive on power and control. They are the only relgions that seem to conflict each other despite been so god damn simalr. They have prophets and the stories are even simalar. They have a messiah/christ. Its so amazing isn't it. The three relgions all have the ying yang good vs evil balony.

So amazing, that the crusades actually never ended.

Its so amazing that the taliban was created by the west. Its so amazing that Osama worked for the CIA and was head of the Taliban when they were fighting against the enemy of the US, - Russia. Its so amazing that relgion is used as an excuse for these greed and money wars. Its so amazing that Bush had links with Osama's family throughout the years. And its so amaziny that people STILL DONT GET IT.

LOOK UP THE HISTORY BEHIND THE THREE RELGIONS. LOOK AT THE FLAGS. they worship the stars, sun, moon and cross. Star of david, Sun and moon of Islam. Sirius a star that is noted in both the Koran and Bible.

It is ALL GOT TO DO WITH POWER. the relgions are used to flame the wars, so the aliens can look at us like its one of the shows, "the days of our lives"

Wayts to know what im talking about if you understand these points.

• If you believe all human life is equal
• Religion and politics are the same thing = power
• Good vs evil = deception and division
• Problem, reaction solution method
• Geo Econmoic wars between China Russia and USA over the ME.
• War does not solve conflict or create harmony
• if you understand that two wrongs dont make a right
• If you undersand hate or either side, is for a reason and by logic
• These wars are about greed and power
• If you can see that the US government and Jihadism are no different
• why people point fingers.:rolleyes:

And to recap my point incase you missed it
Be aware and dicern reality. Look around you, and question reality. Question the black and white and tease the gray area. Question what our leaders are saying regardless if they are good or bad. Question the leaders morality/hisstory/behaviour. Find out what is our responsiblility in this conflict rather than reacting and kneejerking. Learn to take responsiblity for our behaviour and not be quick to point fingers like our western governments like to do.


These wars, suit the US hegomy for their global control of the mineral recources out of the "terrorist regions"

One man got me thinking almost to the point of nearly doubting my own stance on this afghan conflict.

This is what he stated.
WHy would our government waste millions of dollars in building pipelines and taking oil/mineral from these countries, for the sake of war, when our US government can easily take recources from the moon just as easy without having to spend money on the war they use to justify their invasions. ITs like Rome all over again.

My response well your right, The superpower USA could easily take from the moon, and not have to spend trillions on war to get all these recourses and take over these countries. But the simple thing your missing is.....

If USA go to the moon, China and Russia will just take their place of taking what the USA will abandon;);)..

It's ALL ABOUT POWER guys... and nothing BUT POWER.

OS119

mysterious wrote: »

Jihadism and radical Christianity are the same practically. Christianity, Islam and judasim were all created by the master pupeteers 2000 years ago. These three religions were created to rival each other and to the master pupeteers to make the world interesting:rolleyes: Conflict and polarisation creates control. The power system all use the same methods to control the world and relgion does not excape this process.

Its ironic and to my conclusion, they hold alot of the same standards and beliefs, all have simalar symobolism, they believe in the one and only god. They all condemn the other. They thrive on power and control. They are the only relgions that seem to conflict each other despite been so god damn simalr. They have prophets and the stories are even simalar. They have a messiah/christ. Its so amazing isn't it. The three relgions all have the ying yang good vs evil balony.

So amazing, that the crusades actually never ended.

Its so amazing that the taliban was created by the west. Its so amazing that Osama worked for the CIA and was head of the Taliban when they were fighting against the enemy of the US, - Russia. Its so amazing that relgion is used as an excuse for these greed and money wars. Its so amazing that Bush had links with Osama's family throughout the years. And its so amaziny that people STILL DONT GET IT.

LOOK UP THE HISTORY BEHIND THE THREE RELGIONS. LOOK AT THE FLAGS. they worship the stars, sun, moon and cross. Star of david, Sun and moon of Islam. Sirius a star that is noted in both the Koran and Bible.

It is ALL GOT TO DO WITH POWER. the relgions are used to flame the wars, so the aliens can look at us like its one of the shows, "the days of our lives"

Wayts to know what im talking about if you understand these points.

• If you believe all human life is equal
• Religion and politics are the same thing = power
• Good vs evil = deception and division
• Problem, reaction solution method
• Geo Econmoic wars between China Russia and USA over the ME.
• War does not solve conflict or create harmony
• if you understand that two wrongs dont make a right
• If you undersand hate or either side, is for a reason and by logic
• These wars are about greed and power
• If you can see that the US government and Jihadism are no different
• why people point fingers.:rolleyes:

And to recap my point incase you missed it
Be aware and dicern reality. Look around you, and question reality. Question the black and white and tease the gray area. Question what our leaders are saying regardless if they are good or bad. Question the leaders morality/hisstory/behaviour. Find out what is our responsiblility in this conflict rather than reacting and kneejerking. Learn to take responsiblity for our behaviour and not be quick to point fingers like our western governments like to do.


These wars, suit the US hegomy for their global control of the mineral recources out of the "terrorist regions"

One man got me thinking almost to the point of nearly doubting my own stance on this afghan conflict.

This is what he stated.
WHy would our government waste millions of dollars in building pipelines and taking oil/mineral from these countries, for the sake of war, when our US government can easily take recources from the moon just as easy without having to spend money on the war they use to justify their invasions. ITs like Rome all over again.

My response well your right, The superpower USA could easily take from the moon, and not have to spend trillions on war to get all these recourses and take over these countries. But the simple thing your missing is.....

If USA go to the moon, China and Russia will just take their place of taking what the USA will abandon;);)..

It's ALL ABOUT POWER guys... and nothing BUT POWER.

its all the Lizards and the Joooos.....

fruitcake.