Windows 7

Unknown Soldier · 18-08-2009 9:30pm

due to this thread I got both 32 and 64 bit versions at the weekend. The 64 bit is the only one installed to date and it was easily the simplist MS OS install i have ever done.

Tried downloading a copy at work but due to the fire wall it would not let me but when I refreshed the page I kept getting new serials

8 serials for each once i copped it

ynotdu · 20-08-2009 5:29pm

ynotdu wrote: »

Hi,
I use various websites to watch streaming/p2p.
one i know i can mention is justin.tv but its happening on other sites i use as well.

The problem is i am getting no audio.The speaker symbol is red.
I have added them to compatible mode on IE8,made no diffrience.
I have tried them on Firefox and have the same problem.
I am using RC build 7100 on a Dell inspiron 1720.

i have a desktop running windows XP and have tested the sites on it and have no sound problems on that.

Anybody know what the problem might be using windows 7?
cheers.

P.S this problem does not affect youtube etc,so i dont think its a hardware problem.

Hello again,posted this a while ago now without a reply.
I wonder would somebody who is running RC 7100 be kind enough to test justin.tv to see if they can receive sound?
it is a LEGAL site and you do not HAVE to become a member to watch the streaming video.
the red color on its speaker symbol is on their player,not on my computers speaker symbol.

it would only take a minute and would help me identify the problem.
thanks in advance.

5uspect · 20-08-2009 8:35pm

PLayed this video in Firefox 3.5 Win7 RC with no problems.
http://www.justin.tv/sajirou

ynotdu · 21-08-2009 9:21pm

5uspect wrote: »

PLayed this video in Firefox 3.5 Win7 RC with no problems.
http://www.justin.tv/sajirou

Thanks a million 5uspect,that played for me in FF&IE8,although i am still having buffering issues:))

All justin.tv streams now have sound for me.
some others hav,nt so it must that be justin and others have to make adjustments for windows 7.

cheers!

5uspect · 21-08-2009 9:56pm

Must be a hardware/driver issue rather than a windows issue.

ynotdu · 21-08-2009 10:14pm

5uspect wrote: »

Must be a hardware/driver issue rather than a windows issue.

what was making me paranoid was were Microsoft using my *anon* feedback to tip off broadcasters :eek:

Microsoft tipped off Sky tv when their DRM had been hacked,and sky withdrew the service for over two months!

ynotdu · 21-08-2009 10:29pm

If you were planning to download the release candidate of Windows 7, you're too late. But there are still ways to try the system for four times longer than the standard 30-day trial period.
Microsoft has, as scheduled, removed the release candidate of Windows 7 from its download sites. That edition, which had been available since May, marked the penultimate stage in the new operating system's development process. Those people who downloaded it will be able to continue to use the prenatal OS until March 2010, when it automatically and officially expires. (Source: pcworld.com)
If you want to get an official copy direct from Microsoft or through a retailer, you'll now have to wait until the system's release in October -- though in some markets you can order now and pay a discounted price.
Final Edition Already Available

It is possible however to get your hands on the final edition now, either by subscribing to Microsoft's Developer Network, TechNet or Subscriber services, or by copying the installation disc directly from a subscriber. (Source: zdnet.com)

Getting and installing the software in this way is not likely to get you into legal trouble. Why? Because Microsoft allows users to install Windows 7 without paying for it. The system will work for 30 days after which users are required to activate it, at which point they'll need to prove they have paid for it.

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Capt'n Midnight · 22-08-2009 10:48pm

Please no links to sites that have crackz

Note: just because microsoft don't enforce licensing properly don't make it legal to bypass it

Santiago Garcia · 29-08-2009 1:48pm

Quick question..... If an old laptop I have was "Vista Ready" would it be OK for Windows7?

It is a sony Vaio SZ2 varient ala
http://vaio.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProduct.action?product=VGN-SZ2XP%2FC&productFilters=retired&site=voe_en_GB_cons&pageType=Overview&category=VN+SZ+Series

5uspect · 29-08-2009 1:53pm

Should be fine. Win7 appears to scale really well.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9136192/Windows_7_How_low_can_you_go_
I've run it on an old Dell with a 2.66 GhZ P4, 1GB RAM and 256MB 7600GT.

You may need to turn aero off on older GPUs but the 7400 in that should be fine.

Santiago Garcia · 29-08-2009 1:59pm

5uspect wrote: »

Should be fine. Win7 appears to scale really well.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9136192/Windows_7_How_low_can_you_go_
I've run it on an old Dell with a 2.66 GhZ P4, 1GB RAM and 256MB 7600GT.

You may need to turn aero off on older GPUs but the 7400 in that should be fine.

Cheers mate. Not enough posts to thank you, from what I can gather but I have made a not to do so when I have

Jay P · 30-08-2009 4:09pm

Quick question:
My Dad got me a Dell laptop last week with Vista Home Premium. I've heard that some Dell computers get a free Windows 7 upgrade, but my Dad doens't know anything about this. Can somebody please tell me if I am? I can't find anything about it on the Dell website...

AlmightyCushion · 30-08-2009 4:11pm

Yes. Because it has windows vista home premium it will be eligible for a free upgrade to windows 7 when it gets released.

Jay P · 30-08-2009 4:35pm

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Yes. Because it has windows vista home premium it will be eligible for a free upgrade to windows 7 when it gets released.

Thank you.
And how do I get the upgrade? Am I going to be informed about it?

AlmightyCushion · 30-08-2009 4:51pm

Jay P wrote: »

Thank you.
And how do I get the upgrade? Am I going to be informed about it?

You have to register here (http://www.dell.com/windows7). I don't think they inform you.

AIR-AUSSIE · 30-08-2009 6:50pm

Has anyone tried windows 7 on a multitouch laptop / desktop?

ynotdu · 31-08-2009 6:01am

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

Has anyone tried windows 7 on a multitouch laptop / desktop?

Hi Air Aussie,i know this does not answer your question,i do know that ACER are all ready to launch not just windows 7 on release date,but also the laptops/desktops they have designed for all the multitouch features of W7.just thought i would say that to anybody contemplating buying a computor before the late oct release.

some pages back a poster did mention touchscreen technology has been around for some time,but lots of computer manufactors are holding back their new technology until at least release date so as not to interfere with their present retail sales.

If W7 is an overnight sucess(as i personally think it will be)
i believe there will be great bargains to be had on high spec computers not involving touchscreen(which is a bit gimmicky anyway)

AlmightyCushion · 31-08-2009 12:21pm

ynotdu wrote: »

If W7 is an overnight sucess(as i personally think it will be)
i believe there will be great bargains to be had on high spec computers not involving touchscreen(which is a bit gimmicky anyway)

You could be right but I doubt it. From what I have seen a lot of people couldn't give a shíte about touch screens. After 7 gets released I'd say touchscreen laptops will still make up a relatively small segment of the market.

ScumLord · 31-08-2009 2:16pm

Will Win7 kcik up a stink if I replace the CPU? I've heard that replacing the motherboard on Vista can make it think it's in a new PC and won't let you run it but is it the same for CPUs?

AlmightyCushion · 31-08-2009 2:45pm

ScumLord wrote: »

Will Win7 kcik up a stink if I replace the CPU? I've heard that replacing the motherboard on Vista can make it think it's in a new PC and won't let you run it but is it the same for CPUs?

CPU should be fine, motherboard would probably be a different story.

silverski · 31-08-2009 4:35pm

Hi All,

Perhaps this hasd already been answered.

But can I upgrade from XP Pro to W7.

I am hoping to install on my Acer Travelmate 4152LCi

1.73GHz
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
60HDD
2GB Ram.

Don't wish to loose all my data nor to reinstall all the data.

Regards
Silverski

PS< I really need to do a backup........

kaizersoze · 31-08-2009 6:36pm

silverski wrote: »

Hi All,

Perhaps this hasd already been answered.

But can I upgrade from XP Pro to W7.

I am hoping to install on my Acer Travelmate 4152LCi

1.73GHz
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
60HDD
2GB Ram.

Don't wish to loose all my data nor to reinstall all the data.

Regards
Silverski

PS< I really need to do a backup........

Format and install I'm afraid. No upgrade option.
It's always the best option anyway.

ynotdu · 01-09-2009 2:29am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

You could be right but I doubt it. From what I have seen a lot of people couldn't give a shíte about touch screens. After 7 gets released I'd say touchscreen laptops will still make up a relatively small segment of the market.

Lol Almighty,i think we are saying the same thing!!!!!!!!

exactly my point that touch screen technology("is a bit gimmicky")

I meant the market could be flooded with high spec computers of the non touch screen variety at really low prices if W7 OS and hardware compliant computers take off!

W7 RC, build 7100 has been brilliant since i installed it compared to the *nightmare*that was Vista

Overheal · 01-09-2009 4:43am

this 25 page bs thread is doing my head in.

anywahy.

anyone else find WMP gone totally shyte now?

if i pause something and leave it alone for a while (10 mins) when i come back to it, wmp locks up. and crashes.

ynotdu · 01-09-2009 5:17am

Overheal wrote: »

this 25 page bs thread is doing my head in.

anywahy.

anyone else find WMP gone totally shyte now?

if i pause something and leave it alone for a while (10 mins) when i come back to it, wmp locks up. and crashes.

Oh really so who tied you down and forced you to read a 25 page thread

in answer to your question,no WMP is working fine for me,RC-build 7100.

i did have problems with audio on some sites(that seems to have been down to the sites making software changes to adjust in time for W7.

pwd · 04-09-2009 4:06pm

Windows 7 Pro is available (free) on the IEEE Academic Alliance. I'm pretty sure it's the full release version. Not possible to upgrade from Vista Home Premium or XP Pro.

(If you are a student in a registered college you can get it free if you join IEEE and the computer society (about 50 euro and you get a lot of software including VS pro, Office Enterprise, Server 2008, Expression Studio 3 and lots more).)

Jonathan · 04-09-2009 4:14pm

pwd wrote: »

Office Enterprise

Are you 100% sure that Office Enterprise is included?

It isn't included in my MSDNAA account.

cherryghost · 04-09-2009 4:26pm

Windows 7 Launch Party in your own Home!

Be part of the launch, have a Windows 7 Party in your house

http://uk.houseparty.com/splash/windows7uk

pwd · 04-09-2009 4:34pm

Jonathan wrote: »

Are you 100% sure that Office Enterprise is included?

It isn't included in my MSDNAA account.

you're right it's not included. Access, Project and Visio are included but not Word, Excel or Powerpoint

ScumLord · 04-09-2009 5:01pm

Overheal wrote: »

this 25 page bs thread is doing my head in.

anywahy.

anyone else find WMP gone totally shyte now?

if i pause something and leave it alone for a while (10 mins) when i come back to it, wmp locks up. and crashes.

It comes out of full screen far too easily for my liking. Any little thing happens in the background and it comes out of full screen.

pwd · 04-09-2009 5:22pm

ok I guess this is why it tells me I can't upgrade from vista:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/167224/eu_windows_users_must_upgrade_with_clean_install.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a41:g26:r45:c0.006136:b26088770:z0

either that or it won't let you upgrade from home premium version to pro version.

edit: must be the latter; ie is installed with the os

ScumLord · 10-09-2009 1:00pm

I'm looking at it on Amazon and the pricing doesn't make sense. The upgrade is half the price of the full version but the upgrade version is the same as a full version. Whats the point of the full version?

Ginger · 10-09-2009 1:06pm

You need a previouis version of windows installed to do the upgrade.. so you cant do a clean install really unless you install your old os and then upgrade.. thats the point of the full version

Of course there are some noted hacks such as the double install of vista for example and the point the OS checker to the DVD drive

ScumLord · 10-09-2009 2:02pm

This version of Windows 7 ships as a full edition, suitable for both new Windows users and Windows Vista users looking to upgrade. Although a ‘clean install’ is not essential for existing Windows Vista users, this is recommended by Microsoft UK.

Also I take it I can't upgrade directly from XP? Or I'm not supposed to be able?

Ginger · 10-09-2009 2:09pm

Upgrade Paths are

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd772579%28WS.10%29.aspx

But!!!!

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/StepByStepHowToUpgradeFromWindowsXPToWindows7.aspx

You can kinda hack it

The reason you are getting this full price SKU at upgrade is that its the Win7E (European Edition) ..

The company is attempting to fall in line with the antimonopoly regulations imposed by the European Antitrust Commission, which found the Windows-Internet Explorer bundle to monopoly abuse.

As a response, Microsoft will offer the E SKUs of Windows 7 in EU markets, namely Windows 7 without Internet Explorer 8. What the software giant won't be offering is upgrade SKUs of Windows 7 E. However, Brad Brooks, Corporate VP for Windows Consumer Marketing, pointed out that the full versions of Windows 7 E would be offered at upgrade prices.

“In Europe we're going to basically offer Windows 7E full version at upgrade prices. And so what's this mean for European customers? It means they get Windows 7 on time with the rest of the world at the best possible price,” Brooks explained.

Microsoft is aiming to release Windows 7 E in Europe on October 22, 2009, concomitantly with the global launch of the operating system. Following general availability, EU customers will be able to purchase Windows 7 E Home Premium for €119.99, Windows 7 E Professional will feature a price tag of €285.00 and Windows 7 Ultimate will cost €299. These offers will only last until December 31, 2009, the Redmond-based company noted. Still, because they are full versions of Windows 7 minus Internet Explorer 8, customers in markets in the EU won't be able to upgrade their existing Windows Vista installations. Instead, users will be forced to clean install Windows 7 E.

“We wanted to make sure that all of our customers got Windows 7 at the same time. And because of what needed to occur around testing of Windows 7E, it became very clear that we would not be able to offer a retail upgrade version of that piece of software on October 22nd,” Brooks added. “So, we had a choice to make. Either we delayed the launch of Windows 7 in Europe or that we brought it all together and did something different. So, what we decided to do is do something different.”

Ginger · 10-09-2009 2:14pm

Here is a nice graphic for Win 7 Upgrade Paths

http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/files/2009/08/windows-upgrade-chart.png

Hmmm its nearly a good idea for me to buy Win 7 in Ireland vs Norway. Norway is not in the EU

Capt'n Midnight · 10-09-2009 2:28pm

ScumLord wrote: »

I'm looking at it on Amazon and the pricing doesn't make sense. The upgrade is half the price of the full version but the upgrade version is the same as a full version. Whats the point of the full version?

If you upgrade an OEM version of windows (ie. any preinstalled version) then the upgrade is locked to that motherboard and lives /dies with it.

The only exception to this if is the motherboard is replaced by the original manufacturer under warranty.

The full version is yours for life and you can move it between machines.

ScumLord · 10-09-2009 3:18pm

I'm using an open license (I think that's what they call it, one disk multiple licenses) version of XP but from the looks of things I'm going to be restricted to the full version as XP doesn't count.

So I can buy the upgrade version and do a clean install but whats the point of them selling the full version at twice the price when I can just buy the at the upgrade price? It seems like amazon are just looking to catch people out.

Ginger · 10-09-2009 3:20pm

Can you post a link to the results so I can get teh actual SKU

Capt'n Midnight · 10-09-2009 3:36pm

ScumLord wrote: »

So I can buy the upgrade version and do a clean install but whats the point of them selling the full version at twice the price when I can just buy the at the upgrade price? It seems like amazon are just looking to catch people out.

re-read what I posted before you

and it's not microsoft not amazon who set the price for the upgrade at half the full price

ScumLord · 10-09-2009 4:31pm

I don't have an oem version of XP, which isn't on my pc any more anyway but I have access to the disk I also have a home made PC.

Win7 on amazon.co.uk

That says the upgrade is the full version. Are you saying the upgrade version shown there is the OEM version and will be locked to the motherboard I install on? I'm still very lost here.

Dartz · 10-09-2009 4:40pm

1000 replies.

And I'm just posting to say I won't be upgrading until sometime next year, when the RC finally runs out, and any little niggles that appear have been ironed out.... like that SMB2.0 flaw.

Fysh · 10-09-2009 6:13pm

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't have an oem version of XP, which isn't on my pc any more anyway but I have access to the disk I also have a home made PC.

Win7 on amazon.co.uk

That says the upgrade is the full version. Are you saying the upgrade version shown there is the OEM version and will be locked to the motherboard I install on? I'm still very lost here.

As I understand it, the upgrade media is not available in europe. So any concerns about how the upgrade process will restrict your future actions are irrelevant.

However, if it were possible to get upgrade media in the eu for win7, it would carry over any restrictions that applied to the licence of the in-place OS that you apply the upgrade to, such as hardware locks or periodic activation via contact to a kms server.

Capt'n Midnight · 10-09-2009 6:57pm

Mr.S wrote: »

How come none of the online stores are selling Windows 7 OEM disks?

I want to install it on my laptop, so i only need a single license and as i remember Vista OEM was something like €60/70.

OEM is not for end users

it's only for system assemblers so they can pre-install it

Jonathan · 10-09-2009 7:40pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Yeah i know that,

But Komplett/Amazon sell OEM copies of Windows Vista. Why not the same for 7?

Probably because it hasn't been launched yet?

dreamers75 · 12-09-2009 11:48pm

Windows 7 can connect and use 2 internet connections at the same time as i found out tonight in waterfords RSC

My 3 Usb stick was going between 4kb and 10kb upload, logged onto WUFCs wifi and windows used both together.

handy that.

Jonathan · 12-09-2009 11:58pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

Windows 7 can connect and use 2 internet connections at the same time as i found out tonight in waterfords RSC

My 3 Usb stick was going between 4kb and 10kb upload, logged onto WUFCs wifi and windows used both together.

handy that.

I assume it just used the faster connection rather than load balance them?

dreamers75 · 13-09-2009 1:35pm

Jonathan wrote: »

I assume it just used the faster connection rather than load balance them?

Connected via both "multiple networks" 3g was still varying but my net monitor said i had a 28kb upload.

3g was counting upload via it but the commentary improved dramatically when we used both.

Will test it out again during the week but 99% sure it used both.

Ronan|Raven · 13-09-2009 1:42pm

Just installed it and have to say I am really liking it, still have my XP on dualboot but hopefully wont be going back to it. That said XP has been fantastic the last few years never hadany problems with it.

AntiRip · 13-09-2009 3:15pm

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

Just installed it and have to say I am really liking it, still have my XP on dualboot but hopefully wont be going back to it. That said XP has been fantastic the last few years never hadany problems with it.

Did the same months ago Ronan and found I was using Windows 7 alot more than XP. I never thought I'd abandon XP even after installing it on my new laptop over Vista but I have. I uninstalled XP fully and never looked back. Windows 7 is the new XP now

Windows 7

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