This is Nitelive....

Jazzy

so I see RTE are making the poor mans version of The Day Today 14 years later once they think everyone has forgotten. just like how Naked Camera is the poor mans Trigger Happy.
Im expecting maybe a few guilty laughs but in all it wont be as clever or have the same longevity of Chris Morris' first foray into telly. its definitely looking far cheesier and probably wont take itself as seriously as The Day Today... which is pretty much proof that RTE is missing the point (just like when they show at the end of Naked Camera all the ppl that have been duped). The Day Today was so brilliant because it took it self so ultra seriously, naming your 'Anchor' Jonny Handsome immediately negates this so Im expecting a full urination over Chris Morris original idea. well done RTE

TheBlock

I agree... haven't seen it coz it hasn't actually been filmed but your right its absolute ****e.

Jazzy

just some pre speculation. i doubt im going to be wrong tho, RTE have a very bad habit of missing the point. especially in comedy. instead they tend to latch onto something that has already proved popular, dress it up differently, mutate it so that it seems original and then completely miss the point on wat made the original brilliant.

tommyboy2222

Naked Camera is the poor mans Trigger Happy.

Naked Camera was the poor mans Candid Camera Einstein

Jazzy

einstein says that naked camera like trigger happy uses established characters in a hidden camera style

lostexpectation

i think this was all conjured up on the basis that john ryan wanted to wear red braces.

AnonoBoy

TheBlock wrote: »

I agree... haven't seen it coz it hasn't actually been filmed but your right its absolute ****e.

Well since it's starting tonight on TV I would guess that it has been filmed.

I saw the pilot and it had 1 good joke that I liked. It's more Anchorman than Day Today and it robs stuff from everywhere.

Set your expectations on 'low'.

giftgrub

I just saw a promo for this....

From RTE's website
http://www.rte.ie/tv/thisisnightlive/

This is Nightlive

Anchorman Johnny Hansom and his team present this weekly Lifestyle News show where 'they are the news'

CHANGE - You Can't Believe In. This is Nightlive is a new half-hour weekly show beginning on Monday 5th January.

Nightlive, best-dressed current-affairs team in the 2008 VIP Style Awards, is in its fourth year and heading into an uncertain future.

Lead by Johnny Hansom (born: Declan Foley), an increasingly unhinged former DJ, the show - the first from RTÉ's Lifestyle News Department - is struggling to find the right tone as the country sinks into recession.

Into this world comes Una Og Nic Ni Suillicaint, a beautiful new co-host with a lofty news agenda. Unfortunately, she's chosen a news team as dysfunctional as the stories it reports. Joining Johnny are entertainment correspondent Jackie Byrne-Daly, sports reporter Trevor Corocran and weatherman Mike 'Cloudy Walsh.

Theres also an article here
http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2009/jan/04/the-diary-ken-sweeney-ryan-expects-a-good-kicking-/

I'm going to take a deep breath and give it a go....

mike65

So its a parody of TV3?

Jazzy

terrible stuff.

mike65

Sunni south east?

It ain't The Day Today

I just bailed out.

445279.ie

I'm quite enjoying it

edit - second half was a bit crap

Stargal

It's just over now and I won't be watching again. It's a good idea, badly executed. Unfunny, uninspired and unwatchable.

gerky

I found it hard to watch, it's like they tried to take several bits from other programs mashed them together and hoped for the best.
The lead fella looked as if he's trying to copy the Colbert style, there is only one Colbert:)

Aidric

Smacked of trying too hard, let down by poor writing. I might give it another go but probably not.

MementoMori

Pretty much an attempt to mash together several elements from other better sources and failing miserably. Nothing original whatsoever and not very funny.

Sandwich

Darned funny I thought. John Ryan was excelent. The joke might be a bit thin but hope they can sustain it for a few more episodes.
I know its traditional to trash 'RTE comedy' as an oxymoron , but credit where its due.

redcrew

I laughed quite a bit to be honest...silly things like the Sunni South East...and the scrolling bar along the bottom.

I think it might take 2 or 3 episodes to get into properly but I'll give it a go next week

RichTea

The idea has potential but they really didn't carry it out as well as they could have. There were some funny bits, to give them credit.

The thing that bugged me throughout was the overall silence throughout. The pauses seemed really awkward and it carried on for the duration of the show.

RTÉ tried to mash together the Office, Anchorman, The Daily Show / Colbert Report amongst other things here. It hasn't quite gone too well so far but I'm prepared to give it another lash.

Utopia Parkway

I actually thought John Ryan was quite good in his role. Definitely the best thing on it. The material itself wasn't really up to scratch though.

Apartment

It was better than I was expecting.:)

Project HA HA on the other hand is absolutley dreadful!

mike65

Amazing, another new RTE comedy thread and another debut poster with the thumbs up (cynical moi? )

Stargal

gerky wrote: »

I found it hard to watch, it's like they tried to take several bits from other programs mashed them together and hoped for the best.
The lead fella looked as if he's trying to copy the Colbert style, there is only one Colbert:)

Yeah that's exactly it. A half-assed mixture of The Day Today, Anchorman, Colbert Report and the Daily Show performed by the Rathmines and Rathgar Musical Society.

Jazzy

twas a big load of cr@p. RTE trying too hard and the whole thing was entirely unoriginal. looks like they are trying to emulate The Onion among others. pity the onion has some actual talent behind it, the ppl writing this and putting it together dont have a clue as to what good comedy writing is. they reckon if they tell you its good then it will be, pretty much like any of the recent shows RTE has farted out

elshambo

Stargal wrote: »

performed by the Rathmines and Rathgar Musical Society.

oooh SNAP!

Bondvillain

One or two mildly entertaining ideas, let down by terrible material and performances more suited to a youth club stage drama about the dangers of Heroin.

wolfgang123

****e. As is Project ha ha / dead cat bounce. Who the hell keeps commisioning this dross ?

Pen1987

Anyone see that satire on the Irish Television Awards done by the same people who did Soupy Norman (I think)? it was on RTE late the other night, had me in bit laughing, best Irish comedy I've seen in around 5 years. This was an improvement on the average RTE stuff but nothing amazing...

warrenstown

RichTea wrote: »

The thing that bugged me throughout was the overall silence throughout. The pauses seemed really awkward and it carried on for the duration of the show.

It wasn't bad but that odd silence in the studio was annoying alright! Tighter editing could get rid of those awkward pauses too.
Some of the lines were funny such as their entertainment correspondent being 'beautifully preserved' (a dig at Lorraine Keane?).
The news tracker on the bottom had funny stuff but it moved too slowly for me.

Ryan doesn't seem to be afraid to rip the piss out of Irish media institutions either, which is a good thing.

Couldn't help but notice that the news anchor in the following HA HA programme was a bit funnier that the Johny Hansome character!

Apartment

mike65 wrote: »

Amazing, another new RTE comedy thread and another debut poster with the thumbs up (cynical moi? )

Okay you got me ..I admit it...I'm the writer.

Not!

Yes cynical you :rolleyes:

elshambo

Apartment wrote: »

Okay you got me ..I admit it...I'm the writer.

Not!

Yes cynical you :rolleyes:

Well your humour is certainly out of date enough:eek:
to have written that dross:D:D


BTW

outlier79

I thought it was a good first effort. It was self-mocking, didn't take itself seriously and had some great lines - "i'd love to hear an irish speaking vagina". As satire, the piece about charity building projects in Turkey was bang on the money

RichTea

warrenstown wrote: »

The news tracker on the bottom had funny stuff but it moved too slowly for me.

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The ticker crawled along didn't it!? Just keep it at an ordinary pace and the mini-laughs will come. I wonder now if the speed of the ticker was intentional but thats beside the point.

JDxtra

Their set and graphics are better than the real ones from TV3! Show was OK, might give it another go to see if it improves.

mike65

I imagine it was to take account of the average RTE comedy fan.

re Apartment, soz if I impugned your integrity but as you can see already there are a few debuts on this thread. It happens every time RTE starts a new comedy. Nice that boards is now so important for sounding out opinion

elshambo

outlier79 wrote: »

I thought it was a good first effort. It was self-mocking, didn't take itself seriously and had some great lines - "i'd love to hear an irish speaking vagina". As satire, the piece about charity building projects in Turkey was bang on the money

Is the Boards RTE Comedy First Post Club a bit like the Joy Luck Club
without the Luck or the Joy?

Weakly scripted,poorly paced, the gaps where id imagine a joke on the awful gaps that appear in the shows it was having a dig at.

Too many bad actors turn to comedy in this country!:eek:

It was stuck between too knowing and not knowing enough, there is a fine line and they tried to draw it with a cheap roller:rolleyes:


*
I would love to know how many script edits RTE comedy shows go through because it never looks like enough
eg. Apparently some epsodes of Peep Show have gone through over 20 script edits
(only has 2 writers)
I cant see ANY RTE show going through more than 2-3 edits
Some would be lucky to see 1 K. Lynch for example

AnonoBoy

warrenstown wrote: »

Tighter editing could get rid of those awkward pauses too.

To paraphrase McBain - "That was the joke!"

They were going for that **** TV3 News style. Didn't work though. As already pointed out the news anchor in Dead Cat Bounce was far sharper.

Oh and to Apartment - Hi Mr. Ryan, better luck next time!

RichTea

elshambo wrote: »

Is the Boards RTE Comedy First Post Club a bit like the Joy Luck Club
without the Luck or the Joy?

Weakly scripted,poorly paced, the gaps where id imagine a joke on the awful gaps that appear in the shows it was having a dig at.

Too many bad actors turn to comedy in this country!:eek:

It was stuck between too knowing and not knowing enough, there is a fine line and they tried to draw it with a cheap roller:rolleyes:

To be fair to John Ryan (;)) He does have a point about that Charity Building thing. Good satire there.

Apartment

AnonoBoy wrote: »

To paraphrase McBain - "That was the joke!"

They were going for that **** TV3 News style. Didn't work though. As already pointed out the news anchor in Dead Cat Bounce was far sharper.

Oh and to Apartment - Hi Mr. Ryan, better luck next time!

Just to clear things up I am not John Ryan, I am a student.

lostexpectation

it could have been worse but it was just a mishmash, it was satirsing american tv more then irish, it didn't do enough current stuff.

the day today satirised itv and an american influenced news broadcasting but its targets were people like, who was it... cook, the aggressive news reporter, a brit.


john ryan was doing the irish man pretending to be american, theres plenty of them around especially on radio, but who is it on irish tv news is he satirising?

stephen colbert satirises rightwing americans because he's in america., ryan needs to satirise the irish.

lostexpectation

i was woundering about the silence the other day, while watching the best comedies on tv3 with that sitcom ed byrne was in, they never get the silence right, the same with your bad self, there always cheap echo sound on the sitcom, american sitcoms sound better, and maybe deadcat bounce could have done with a real screening audience laughter....

joeystrider

The word necessary:

TRITE

My God. Offensively bad. It tried for that edgy "ooo did he just say that" brand of humour.

And:

Failed.

And I love offensive humour. But this was awful.

joeystrider

lostexpectation wrote: »

it could have been worse but it was just a mishmash, it was satirsiing american tv more then irish, it didn't do enough current stuff.

Yes that is what I was thinking. It would have made more sense to target RTE's brand. The idea of the ostentatiously gaelgoiri woman anchor was good but poorly played through...

The show had little comic timing at all and its attempts at edginess were just awkward.

Thought the newsroom in Dead Cat Bounce was better.

Jazzy

lovin being right

Jazzy

try as this show might it will never be as good as the following:

The Day Today
The Onion
Brass Eye

those prodictions ooze class and are extremely well written and have a certain bounce and flow to them. that drivel i saw last night was a cheap propped up imitation which completely misses the point in how to make a mock news show. spouting out a few fairly funny words until they make sense and sound controversial doesnt make a good mock news show. "Sunni South East" or watever that was was not funny. its just a cheap play on words that makes little to no sense. the writers of this show have not only missed the point, they seem to have done their best to make sure that they will never ever find it.
im gonna put this out there - i could write better stuff then that sh1te

DoubleJoe7

Jazzy wrote: »

im gonna put this out there - i could write better stuff then that sh1te

:rolleyes:


I thought it was ok - not great, not awful, but ok. It DEFINITELY needs tighter editing and it was hit and miss but the gag per minute ratio meant that would always be the case.

I won't write it off after one show but I hope it picks up - regardless of what was said here some of the satire was very Irish related - the Stephen Ireland pisstake and the Rock the Recession two came to mind. I also liked how they started talking about how the irish arent comfortable talking about abortion before dropping it completely.

DLL

Personally I loved it! JR was fantastic - I'm still chuckling from the Poling the Poles gag! Don't remember the last time something on RTE made me laugh out loud!:D

redbiro

I watched it last night and actually think its probably the best comedy show RTE have seen in a long time. Genuinely funny. The format is fresh and the writing is sharp. What other show on RTE can even be compared to Nightlive?

AnonoBoy

DLL wrote: »

Personally I loved it! JR was fantastic - I'm still chuckling from the Poling the Poles gag! Don't remember the last time something on RTE made me laugh out loud!:D

Well at least you made yourself laugh John Ryan. That's all that matters.

AnonoBoy

redbiro wrote: »

What other show on RTE can even be compared to Nightlive?

Yet another new account to discuss Nightlive. :rolleyes:

Dead Cat Bounce afterwards was far superior redbiro.

Although people's complaint that it wasn't taking the piss out of anything Irish is off - it's TV3 news and programming that it's really taking the piss of (just not too sharply!)

choccydidgey

I thought John Ryan was excellent. Saw the ad last week and I didn't really know what to expect but it made me laugh. This is unlike anything else i've seen on RTE. Loved the "asparagus day" sketch. Very clever. I think last nights episode set the scene, a lot was fit into the half hour! I will tune in next week