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Tony Gregory TD .RIP

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    #32
    parkerpi
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    Its certainly very sad. Possibly the most respected TD in the Dail. I take it there will be a by election? How long do/can they wait in these situations? Will Bertie run again?


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    #33
    jmayo
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    http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0102/gregoryt.html

    I know he didn't look great the last while, but I never thought he would pass away so quickly.
    I will admit I may not have agreed with some of his policies or indeed the independent TD holding government to ransom, but at least you knew he had principles, that he cared and did his best for those that were less fortunate and those that elected him.

    Nobody can ever accuse him of acting like some of those independents that followed, with their prepared shopping lists, so that they can jump back into bed with their former party colleagues.

    RIP.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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    #34
    mike65
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    parkerpi wrote: »
    Will Bertie run again?

    Only if he wants to get stoned.


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    #35
    Stephen
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    parkerpi wrote: »
    Its certainly very sad. Possibly the most respected TD in the Dail. I take it there will be a by election? How long do/can they wait in these situations? Will Bertie run again?

    Well, considering Seamus Brennan's seat is still vacant I reckon they'll put it off for as long as possible. The government know they wouldn't have a hope of winning the seat if there was a by-election now.


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    #36
    parkerpi
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    Yes, I assumed they would want to put it off for as long as possible, but I assume there must be a legal or constitutional limit on how long a seat can be vacant?


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    #37
    Badabing
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    RIP Tony Gregory, it should make Dublin Central very intresting next time with the 2 top vote getters not there. It might make Joe Costello consider run again as he would have a free run on the left vote.


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    #38
    Raskolnikov
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    I know that the man's seat is still warm, but if Fine Gael managed to take the old Brennan and Gregory seats, could they topple the government?


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    #39
    parkerpi
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    Thats basically what I'm getting at, yes.


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    #40
    Zebra3
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    RIP.

    :(


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    #41
    samsemtex
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    Between himself and Seamus Brennan it appears to be the good natured honest ones that are being taken. Maybe the fact that they actually care about their constituents that causes their stress. Plenty more pricks in that Dail that id prefer see taken than Tony.

    RIP


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    #42
    lostexpectation
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    whats all this praise for former shinner,wp,irsp and socialist???


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    #43
    Draupnir
    Registered Users Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    lostexpectation wrote: »
    no practical difference he helped keep haughey in power.

    I don't want to get involved in an argument with you, your other post in this topic shows your narrow mindedness and ill informed position.

    However, Gregory did what he did for the good of his community (of which my family and I are members). You can only ask that much of your public representatives. Having met and spoken to Gregory on many, many occassions I can only say that his intentions were always selfless and in line with what you expect of a public representative.


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    #44
    turgon
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    lostexpectation wrote: »
    whats all this praise for former shinner,wp,irsp and socialist???

    :confused:

    I wouldnt mind you attacking his current credentials, but spouting a list of things he was involved in his past whats that about? People change you know.


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    #45
    Raskolnikov
    Registered Users Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    lostexpectation wrote: »
    whats all this praise for former shinner,wp,irsp and socialist???
    That's one of the most idiotic comments I've read on the politics forum.

    I'm none of the above, by the way,


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    #46
    lostexpectation
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    he still saw himself as socialist didn't he, which were told is a dangerous and dead ideology


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    #47
    mike65
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    I think peeps didn't spot the ironic tone.


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    #48
    Draupnir
    Registered Users Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    lostexpectation wrote: »
    he still saw himself as socialist didn't he, which were told is a dangerous and dead ideology

    Broaden your mind, many people are many things, they are not all the same.


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    #49
    lostexpectation
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    but he was probably a backer of unions, and partnership and public service unions position etc things people were spitting about on other threads.

    as national politcian he had detrimnental effect on the country by denying his seat to somebody who could crack down on these wasters.


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    #50
    Húrin
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    shyte. I wanted him to be Mayor of Dublin, if it ever is a meaningful office in the future. He wasn't even that old.

    - a sad Dubliner


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    #51
    [Deleted User]
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    Tony Gregory RIP.
    A sound man,I remember meeting him once some moons ago as part of a boating trip he was planning for inner city kids.

    He played his politics Role very well and is indeed a sad loss :(


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    #52
    [Deleted User]
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    Raskolnikov wrote: »
    I know that the man's seat is still warm, but if Fine Gael managed to take the old Brennan and Gregory seats, could they topple the government?
    They'll probably take Dublin South alright...but Dublin Central will be Mary Lou...


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    #53
    Draupnir
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    They'll probably take Dublin South alright...but Dublin Central will be Mary Lou...

    I sincerely doubt Mary Lou can win Dublin Central, her support isn't great in my section of Dublin Central, in fact, if I was a betting man I would say Pascal Donohoe of Fine Gael has the best chance in Dublin Central. He showed good numbers in the first count in the last General election.


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    #54
    Raskolnikov
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    Draupnir wrote: »
    I sincerely doubt Mary Lou can win Dublin Central, her support isn't great in my section of Dublin Central, in fact, if I was a betting man I would say Pascal Donohoe of Fine Gael has the best chance in Dublin Central. He showed good numbers in the first count in the last General election.
    The question is, would Bertie Ahern/Tony Gregory supporters vote for him over Mary-Lou?


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    #55
    dolliemix
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    A very brave man on many levels. Sad loss for Dublin. RIP Tomy Gregory


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    #56
    Hagar
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    One of the more honest politicians, he'll be missed. RIP.


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    #57
    parkerpi
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    Raskolnikov wrote: »
    The question is, would Bertie Ahern/Tony Gregory supporters vote for him over Mary-Lou?


    My guess is quite a few might. Gregory was an Independant and Bertie brought a lot of votes from beyond the traditional FF sphere, so those votes might split many ways. Remember Donohoe got more 1st preference votes then Cyprian Brady (and Mary Lou I think).


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    #58
    Draupnir
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    parkerpi wrote: »
    My guess is quite a few might. Gregory was an Independant and Bertie brought a lot of votes from beyond the traditional FF sphere, so those votes might split many ways. Remember Donohoe got more 1st preference votes then Cyprian Brady (and Mary Lou I think).

    Yes you are correct, Donohoe got over 3000 1st preferences. Mary Fitzpatrick also did a lot better than Brady here in the earlier rounds but didn't have the Bertie support factor that Brady has.

    I would say that yes, Donohoe will get votes coming to him from Gregory and Bertie, if he campaigns in the right areas. If Fitzpatrick gets support and runs again she also has a very strong chance of being the FF candidate of choice.

    Both would be excellent representatives for this area in my opinion.


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    #59
    [Deleted User]
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    By elections are different though.
    You could top the poll yet lose the seat.Transfers would be coming from a lot of eliminated candidates-enough to tip you never know who over.
    Personally if the SF machine went after that seat I'd rather it was for Christy Burke than Mary Lou.

    I'll bow to local knowledge though :)


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    #60
    johnnyskeleton
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    Love him or hate him, it's the TGs of this world that make Irish politics bearable. A colourful outspoken bloke, much better at his job than most, no doubt due to his unwillingness to become a FF/FG hack.

    RIP


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    #61
    Wacko
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    He was a rarity in the Dail, a man who actually represented the people who voted for him and did his very best for them. We will be left with just the scumbag wasters of TD's now when they get back from their Christmas holidays in about June. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a hanam uasal.


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