Best Face and heels (in your own opinion)

CMpunked

So we've had a "best wrestler of all time" thread, but what about a "Best face and heel wrestlers" of all time thread?


In your opinions who do you think the top 3 good and bad guys are ever in the business?
Give reasons too for any particular ones.

Faces:
The Rock
RVD
Eddie

Heels:
Stone cold (invasion time)
Flair
The Dudley boyz

Bounty Hunter

just personal experience and in no particular order unless stated.

Faces:

Mick Foley
SCSA
The Rock

4. Hulk Hogan (biggest face of all time tbh but not a personal fav so no.4)

Heel:

HHH
Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase
Rick Flair

4.The Undertaker (Ministry)... yes he was cheered and never really hated but a great heel character for me, so much so that people wanted the bad guy to win normally

Machismo Fan

Faces
Sting
Ricky Steamboat
Stone Cold

Heels
Edge and Christian
Edge
The Rock

Fozzy

Without a doubt the best face in the world is Kenta Kobashi. He's just something else when it comes to getting the crowd on his side

Also Shawn Michaels and Bruno Sammartino

Heels:

Bruiser Brody
Terry Funk
Gorgeous George

slicus ricus

Here's my lists along with reasons for selection!

Best Faces -

1) Shawn Michaels:- Always worked tremendously as a face - how many times have you seen Michaels getting the crap beaten out of him and looking dead and buried and exploding back from nowhere to pull off the win. He just has the ability to hold the crowd in the palm of his hand during his matches.

2) Hulk Hogan:- His pure charisma and intensity are unparalleled. Also, much like Michaels, he is a master of pyschology who can time his comebacks to perfection.

3) Ricky Steamboat:- The eternal babyface, don't think he ever actually played heel in his career. Much like Michaels and Hogan, the way in which he used to come back from seemingly impossible situations is awesome.

Best Heels -

1) Ric Flair:- When he needed to be, he was pure arrogence personified. He could lay a proper heel beat down on the best of them. He was also prepared to bump quite a lot during the important stages of a match and thus make the face look good and giving the crowd a that bit of hope for the face. Also, has to be noted that Flair wrote the book on ways to cheat in a match!

2) Shawn Michaels:- As a heel, he was exactly like Flair: As arrogent as could be, always methodical in his beat down of the face and willing to bump sh*tloads to make the face look strong, thus making the face's comeback all that more effective. In my opinion, Michaels is the ultimate wrestler, awesome as both heel and face.

3) Ted Dibiase (Sr.) & Rick Rude:- Couldn't make my mind up between these 2. Both made themselves utterly hateable and both were class when it came to beating down the face. Both were also excellent at taking the face's comeback. How many times did Rude, for example show all of this against Warrior.

OrtonViper

Face
Shawn Michaels
The Rock
Hulk Hogan

Heel
Steve Austin
Ted DiBiase
Rody Piper

Vince135792003

I think Michaels since his return has been a great babyface but the Shawn Michaels of the 90's wasn't the greatest babyface in the world I don't think.

At times he came across as very unlikeable when he wasn't supposed to. Even as a kid, I kinda picked up on it.

slicus ricus

Vince135792003 wrote: »

the Shawn Michaels of the 90's wasn't the greatest babyface in the world I don't think.

At times he came across as very unlikeable when he wasn't supposed to. Even as a kid, I kinda picked up on it.

Apparently, he wasn't too likeable on a personal level either! He was very over as a face up until after he won the belt from Bret at Mania 12. This (1996) was at the time when the attitude era was beginning to emerge, so a white meat babyface who's led to the ring by a Mexican pensioner (i feel bad for describing Jose Lothario like that) wasn't the most hip thing in the world!

In spite of all of that, when he worked as a face in his matches in the 90s, he did so exceptionally (imo). His selling was always excellent when he was getting beaten down by the heel and his comebacks evoked huge levels of emotion from the crowd. He even got some of the best matches of Sid and Nash's careers out of them while he was face in the 90s!!

CMpunked

Personally speaking, i much prefer the rocker/sexyboy Shawn Michaels that threw Marty Jannetty into that window, screwed bret and begun a faction of degenerates.
Rather than they later HBK, superkicking a wanderer backstage to try and show how he is still controversial.

Just my thoughts

Vince135792003

slicus ricus wrote: »

In spite of all of that, when he worked as a face in his matches in the 90s, he did so exceptionally (imo). His selling was always excellent when he was getting beaten down by the heel and his comebacks evoked huge levels of emotion from the crowd. He even got some of the best matches of Sid and Nash's careers out of them while he was face in the 90s!!

You didn't need to underline matches. That's what I was referring to. I love And I stand by what I wrote. We're talking about the best babyface of all time and in my opinion the Shawn Michaels of the 1990's was not close to that and taking his whole career in context, he wouldn't quite be on the top of my list either.

The Von Erichs for a specific period of time for a territory comes to my mind. When you talk about evoking huge levels of emotion, they were the epitomy of it.

slicus ricus

Vince135792003 wrote: »

You didn't need to underline matches. That's what I was referring to.

Sorry man, wasn't entirely sure whether that was what you were referring to, just wanted to emphasise the fact that it was what i was referring to.

Vince135792003 wrote: »

And I stand by what I wrote. We're talking about the best babyface of all time and in my opinion the Shawn Michaels of the 1990's was not close to that and taking his whole career in context, he wouldn't quite be on the top of my list either.

Fair enough, i respect your opinion. I don't agree with it but i do understand where you're coming from.

flahavaj

Fozzy wrote: »

Without a doubt the best face in the world is Kenta Kobashi. He's just something else when it comes to getting the crowd on his side

Also Shawn Michaels and Bruno Sammartino

Heels:

Bruiser Brody
Terry Funk
Gorgeous George

What this man said. He has an aura like no other.

Hogan or Austin obviously win this in terms of North American face wrestlers.

Probably Flair for greatest heel, although Rick Rude and Jake Roberts were awesome as well.

Funnily enough Lawler would be the best choice for a guy who would tick the most boxes to be top of both lists.

CMpunked

flahavaj wrote: »

Funnily enough Lawler would be the best choice for a guy who would tick the most boxes to be top of both lists.

Thats one that would have never crossed my mind!

flahavaj

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Thats one that would have never crossed my mind!

Well he was as beloved a face as it is possible to be in Memphis and was a fantastic cowardly slimy heel during his WWE run.