Northen Ireland Car Dealers

godtabh

I heard an ad on the radio for a northen ireland car dealer that does all the paper work for buyers down south. Didnt catch his name.

Has any one used such a service and if so could they recommend any one? Just trying to figure what kind of savings I could make

Anan1

As in they go to the VRO and pay the VRT for you? I haven't heard of this, but i'd imagine anyone doing this will charge heftily for the service.

godtabh

Anan1 wrote: »

As in they go to the VRO and pay the VRT for you? I haven't heard of this, but i'd imagine anyone doing this will charge heftily for the service.

I only caught a bit of the ad but thats what they said and it "was part of the service" ie not gona cost you

Tigger

by all means buy a car in the north but the paperwork is a real non issue takes 5 minutes

its the amount of vrt thats the issue there have always beeen savings but now the prices available are crazy on second handers
what were you thinking of getting

Tigger

but in fairness here is their details

The Isaac Agnew Group wants to offer you the chance to save thousands on your next car purchase. Employing over 900 staff we are one of the largest Car Retailing Groups in Ireland with over 40 years of experience, and an annual turnover of £300M. We have earned a reputation for delivering excellent customer service by receiving recognised Manufacturer awards, and providing quality assured and approved used cars.


The Agnew Group has provided this website dedicated to customers from Ireland who wish to take advantage of the present exchange rate between Sterling and Euro. With 544 Quality Used Cars in stock, we offer a comprehensive choice of brands and models to choose from, all based within 15 dealerships less than 90 minutes from Dublin.

We provide the following benefits on these cars to all our customers from the South of Ireland:

VRT Paperwork simplified
Comprehensive Reconditioning and Servicing if required
Multipoint Safety and Bodywork Inspection
Independent Mileage Verification Check
Franchise Service History Check
Transactions completed in Euros
Hassle free process with delivery if required

http://www.agnewcars.ie/whybuyfromni.asp

godtabh

Was looking at getting an 2004 saab 93

Anan1

kearnsr wrote: »

I only caught a bit of the ad but thats what they said and it "was part of the service" ie not gona cost you

of course it'll cost you, 'part of the service' means 'built into the price'. And it's a lot more hassle (and therefore expense) for someone based in NI to VRT a car than it is for someone down here.

Tigger

Anan1 wrote: »

of course it'll cost you, 'part of the service' means 'built into the price'. And it's a lot more hassle (and therefore expense) for someone based in NI to VRT a car than it is for someone down here.

built into the price yes
but they only have to cross down to dundalk

Tigger

kearnsr wrote: »

Was looking at getting an 2004 saab 93

agnews won't do a car that old i reckon

Fizman

OP I heard this yesterday too on the radio, but forgot the name. I looked up a few names of NI dealers to see if any rung a bell, and I reckon its Charles Hurst.

Tigger

hurst don't do saabs

agnews have a full range of saabs and cater to the euro "irish " market

Lex Luthor

Fizman wrote: »

OP I heard this yesterday too on the radio, but forgot the name. I looked up a few names of NI dealers to see if any rung a bell, and I reckon its Charles Hurst.

ya it is Charles Hurst..Vauxhall Dealer
They say they will take your southern reg as a trade in but expect to get peanuts for it

Not sure if they will do ALL the paperwork for you to import it..I still would imagine the buyer would have to declare the car themselves at the VRO

They had a cracking 06 2.0T Signum Elite in Pomegranite Red. That is a lot of car for the money

Carraboat

Tigger wrote: »

by all means buy a car in the north but the paperwork is a real non issue takes 5 minutes

its the amount of vrt thats the issue there have always beeen savings but now the prices available are crazy on second handers
what were you thinking of getting

I'm new to this so bare with me....
I'd like to buy a Landrover Defender 110 from NI where it is classed as a commercial vechical for road tax etc. Would it be automatically classed as such here? If so am I right that VRT would be a fixed charge 125 euro.

Terrontress

Carraboat wrote: »

I'm new to this so bare with me....
I'd like to buy a Landrover Defender 110 from NI where it is classed as a commercial vechical for road tax etc. Would it be automatically classed as such here? If so am I right that VRT would be a fixed charge 125 euro.

I think it depends on whether there are windows and seats in the rear. If you get a Defender 130, I believe you get 50% discount on VRT as it is a pick up, even though it has a six seat crew cab.

Tigger

Carraboat wrote: »

I'm new to this so bare with me....
I'd like to buy a Landrover Defender 110 from NI where it is classed as a commercial vechical for road tax etc. Would it be automatically classed as such here? If so am I right that VRT would be a fixed charge 125 euro.

no vrt is 13.3 % its a cat b vehicle


VRT Category B
Examples of Category B vehicles include certain car derived vans and jeep derived vans.
The rate of VRT applicable to Category B vehicles, subject to a minimum VRT of €125, is 13.3% of the Open Market Selling Price (OMSP).

VRT Category C
Examples of Category C vehicles include certain commercial vehicles, agricultural tractors and minibuses with at least 12 permanently fitted passenger seats.
The VRT rate applicable to Category C vehicles is a flat rate of €50.

These rules were implemented under the Finance bill 2001
107. VRT on 4x4 Vehicles
The Bill amends the rules governing the classification for VRT purposes of certain vehicles, mainly jeep-derived and car-derived vans, to ensure greater evenness of treatment of such vans classified under category B of VRT, taxable at 13.3% of the open market selling price. Car-derived vans, jeep-derived vans and other vans which have a gross vehicle weight (GVW) below 2,520 kilograms or a wheelbase below 2,450 metres will be classified as category B. Thus, for such a vehicle to be classified as category C, the vehicle must exceed both of these thresholds. Small vans below 1,400 kilograms unladen weight that have a cargo area load volume exceeding 2m3 will be classified as category C regardless of whether they meet the new GVW or wheelbase thresholds. A crew cab will be classified as a category C vehicle if the cargo area length of such a vehicle equals or exceeds 45% of the wheelbase or if its GVW equals or exceeds 2,5kgs. No change is being proposed for the VRT treatment of motor caravans and larger panel vans.

Eye

Without wanting to hijack the thread, I've being thinking about something simliar myself lately.
Looking at the Nissan Navara's up north as they are classed as commercial down here even with the double cab, but I have been wondering what possible hidden charges there might be with getting it down from the north.

Is there a set VRT charge for commercials, remember it being discussed before in another thread, something like €50, tried to have a look on the VRT.it website but could'nt see much relating to commercials....maybe i was just to tired to see it. (I think Tigger just found what i was looking for there - Thanks)

Is it just VRT or would you also get stung for VAT? given the 6.5% difference in tax from NI to ROI now.

If it's just Pay for the Navara, Pay VRT here and nothing else then I would be flyin

Tigger

Eye wrote: »

Without wanting to hijack the thread, I've being thinking about something simliar myself lately.
Looking at the Nissan Navara's up north as they are classed as commercial down here even with the double cab, but I have been wondering what possible hidden charges there might be with getting it down from the north.

Is there a set VRT charge for commercials, remember it being discussed before in another thread, something like €50, tried to have a look on the VRT.it website but could'nt see much relating to commercials....maybe i was just to tired to see it.

Is it just VRT or would you also get stung for VAT? given the 6.5% difference in tax from NI to ROI now.

If it's just Pay for the Navara, Pay VRT here and nothing else then I would be flyin

see my previous post for vrt (its 13.3%)
no vat as long as its more than 6? months old as long as its sold vat paid in the north

Eye

Just spotted the previous post, Thanks.

Yeah I was looking at 06-07 Navara's.....Thats Interesting

Tigger

Eye wrote: »

Just spotted the previous post, Thanks.

Yeah I was looking at 06-07 Navara's.....Thats Interesting

still probably good prices available

Eye

Ok one last question about that VRT Category C bit you had there.

"A crew cab will be classified as a category C vehicle if the cargo area length of such a vehicle equals or exceeds 45% of the wheelbase or if its GVW equals or exceeds 2,5kgs."

Had to look this one up.

Navara wheelbase = 3200mm
45% of that = 1440mm
Bed Size Floor Length = 1511mm

So if i'm right (and i may not be) would that mean VRT Category C for the navara and €50?

Tigger

Eye wrote: »

Ok one last question about that VRT Category C bit you had there.

"A crew cab will be classified as a category C vehicle if the cargo area length of such a vehicle equals or exceeds 45% of the wheelbase or if its GVW equals or exceeds 2,5kgs."

Had to look this one up.

Navara wheelbase = 3200mm
45% of that = 1440mm
Bed Size Floor Length = 1511mm

So if i'm right (and i may not be) would that mean VRT Category C for the navara and €50?

i'd check on the vrt calculator

Tigger

Tigger wrote: »

i'd check on the vrt calculator

it sez 13.3 %


do soime research/ ring the vrt people and let us know

catweazle

Hi all forgive my ignorance I was looking at going down the route of purchasing in Northern Ireland, was looking at an 04/05 BMW 320D, 100k+. However when I want to the VRT websites I was astonished to see what they feel these cars would be worth on the open market selling prices of these cars, maybe in the heady days of a few years ago, but 18,000 / 20,000 grand they are saying these are worth at the moment. Are these prices

A. Fixed and never changed no matter what their true worth is at the moment

B. A sneaky way to discourage people for purchasing up north by vastly overpricing the car

C. Is it just an estimate and the VRT price will be based on what you paid for the car

Certainly there was some gems up there considerably lower than R of Irelands prices but adding in the VRT on top is beginning to make it more difficult

Eye

Yeah just spent another few mins searching about and found that it is listed under VRT Category B and it was working out at 13.3%....still overall it works out miles cheaper that ROI even at that, but i might have to ring and make and enquiry about the VRT Category C regarding the 45% rule above.

Carraboat

Tigger wrote: »

no vrt is 13.3 % its a cat b vehicle


VRT Category B
Examples of Category B vehicles include certain car derived vans and jeep derived vans.
The rate of VRT applicable to Category B vehicles, subject to a minimum VRT of €125, is 13.3% of the Open Market Selling Price (OMSP).

VRT Category C
Examples of Category C vehicles include certain commercial vehicles, agricultural tractors and minibuses with at least 12 permanently fitted passenger seats.
The VRT rate applicable to Category C vehicles is a flat rate of €50.

These rules were implemented under the Finance bill 2001
107. VRT on 4x4 Vehicles
The Bill amends the rules governing the classification for VRT purposes of certain vehicles, mainly jeep-derived and car-derived vans, to ensure greater evenness of treatment of such vans classified under category B of VRT, taxable at 13.3% of the open market selling price. Car-derived vans, jeep-derived vans and other vans which have a gross vehicle weight (GVW) below 2,520 kilograms or a wheelbase below 2,450 metres will be classified as category B. Thus, for such a vehicle to be classified as category C, the vehicle must exceed both of these thresholds. Small vans below 1,400 kilograms unladen weight that have a cargo area load volume exceeding 2m3 will be classified as category C regardless of whether they meet the new GVW or wheelbase thresholds. A crew cab will be classified as a category C vehicle if the cargo area length of such a vehicle equals or exceeds 45% of the wheelbase or if its GVW equals or exceeds 2,5kgs. No change is being proposed for the VRT treatment of motor caravans and larger panel vans.

thanks for the info. I have checked the GVW of a standard crew cab 110 and it seems to be 3050kgs, so would be a Cat C. Unless you know different

Terrontress

Carraboat wrote: »

thanks for the info. I have checked the GVW of a standard crew cab 110 and it seems to be 3050kgs, so would be a Cat C. Unless you know different

I'd phone the VRO if I were you. They have a database of vehicle dimensions and would be able to tell you right away which category it falls into. You might have to take it to an approved weighbridge to prove it if you feel differently to the figures they provide.

R.O.R

Carraboat wrote: »

thanks for the info. I have checked the GVW of a standard crew cab 110 and it seems to be 3050kgs, so would be a Cat C. Unless you know different

I think the 110 doesn't meet the load length being 45% of the body length exemption. If you can find new prices for them, see if the 130 is cheaper than the 110 - this should confirm.

Eye wrote: »

Ok one last question about that VRT Category C bit you had there.

"A crew cab will be classified as a category C vehicle if the cargo area length of such a vehicle equals or exceeds 45% of the wheelbase or if its GVW equals or exceeds 2,5kgs."

Had to look this one up.

Navara wheelbase = 3200mm
45% of that = 1440mm
Bed Size Floor Length = 1511mm

So if i'm right (and i may not be) would that mean VRT Category C for the navara and €50?

I have a feeling that the Irish Spec Navarra's have a higher GVW than UK Spec vehicles, to get them in to Cat C. Could be wrong on this but I can't find any info for weights on the Nissan UK site. A UK Nissan dealer should be able to confirm these details for you.