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Will recession be good for football?

  • 05-01-2009 5:39pm
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    SectionF
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    Bryan Appleyard points to some positives from the recession... including an end to the 'gross excesses of (EPL) professional soccer'.
    Will a return to simpler values also perhaps help Irish football?


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  • #2
    SantryRed
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    It could turn more people to affordable games in Ireland.

    Seriously doubt it will though.


  • #3
    _blank_
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    It will mean that developers will have no interest in taking the likes of Dalymount or Tolka Park either.

    Keeping these two is a good thing and a bad thing.


  • #4
    Guy:Incognito
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    Des wrote: »
    It will mean that developers will have no interest in taking the likes of Dalymount or Tolka Park either.

    Keeping these two is a good thing and a bad thing.

    Is Dalymount not sort of half gone ish already? Or can Bohs still sell it another couple of times?


  • #5
    bohsman
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    I hope we dont sell it again but chances are that thats what will happen.


  • #6
    _blank_
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    Stekelly wrote: »
    Is Dalymount not sort of half gone ish already?
    Kind of is, but so is Tolka.

    What are the developers going to do with the land though?

    They won't build apartments on it surely?

    Also, Tolka hasn't even been re-zoned yet.
    Stekelly wrote: »
    Or can Bohs still sell it another couple of times?

    heh, they'll probably try. :)


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  • #7
    stovelid
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    Will the recession really help the local game?

    Maybe some fans will cut back on cross-channel trips or even trips to the pub, but the majority will probably just keep/get Sky and Setanta in the house.


  • #8
    Gone Drinking
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    stovelid wrote: »
    Will the recession really help the local game?

    Maybe some fans will cut back on cross-channel trips or even trips to the pub, but the majority will probably just keep/get Sky and Setanta in the house.

    And dodgey box sales will double!


  • #9
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    Gone Drinking wrote: »
    And dodgey box sales will double!

    ftw


  • #10
    SectionF
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    Recession will mean an end to those property deals but also maybe some realism in clubs' strategies. The plummeting pound also makes Ryanair trips to our footballing mainland that much cheaper, and we won't have our Sports Minister backing a Buy Irish campaign on that front.

    I think the positive is in a softer, more subtle cultural change. Maybe, just maybe, people/sports media will be less impressed by the mega deals and mega egos of the EPL.

    As with other aspects of life, they may rediscover a taste for the simpler pleasures. Going to a football match without expecting every other player to come from Brazil may not seem so uninviting.

    Maybe we'll find that recession and event junkie culture don't mix. Of course, it's probably a pipe dream...


  • #11
    CiaranC
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    Id wager that it will be good for English football if it means less daytrippers going to grounds and a return to more traditional fans going along.

    Dont see it making much difference to the LOI. Sometimes I think there could be a nuclear holocaust and we'd still have the same 1200 lads standing there, flesh melted off them, screaming abuse at Sean O'Connor.


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  • #12
    SectionF
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    CiaranC wrote: »
    Id wager that it will be good for English football if it means less daytrippers coming to grounds and a return to more traditional fans going along.

    Dont see it making much difference to the LOI. Sometimes I think there could be a nuclear holocaust and we'd still have the same 1200 lads standing there, flesh melted off them, screaming abuse at Sean O'Connor.
    LOL. I think you may be right.:D

    But we'd still have a Genesis report every couple of years too.


  • #13
    Jazzy
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    dont we have the soccer forum to get away from all the recession threads ?


  • #14
    _blank_
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    funny post Ciaran, nice one :D


  • #15
    DSB
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    Jazzy wrote: »
    dont we have the soccer forum to get away from all the recession threads ?

    No I'd wager that isn't the reason for the soccer forum being created.


  • #16
    keane2097
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    CiaranC wrote: »
    Id wager that it will be good for English football if it means less daytrippers going to grounds and a return to more traditional fans going along.

    Dont see it making much difference to the LOI. Sometimes I think there could be a nuclear holocaust and we'd still have the same 1200 lads standing there, flesh melted off them, screaming abuse at Sean O'Connor.

    Post of the Year 2009 imo.


  • #17
    eirebhoy
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    Will the British exchange rate affect things?

    Real paid €20m for Diarra. So that's £19m to Pompey. If they sold him a few months earlier the exchange rate would have meant only £15.5m for Pompey.

    An English club to buy spend £20m on a player, that's €21m. A few months ago that would have been €26m.

    Even wages. Madrid could pay a player €80k. In the summer that would have been £61k. Now British clubs would have to pay £76k a week to match Madrids offer.

    Could we see more players going to Spain because of money or maybe it won't affect things at all for whatever reason?


  • #18
    bohsman
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    Same would go for players deciding between lower British teams and the LOI.


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    bohsman wrote: »
    Same would go for players deciding between lower British teams and the LOI.

    True dat.

    Although I'd say the chances of actually getting paid in England would sway a fair few players in the direction of the mainland.


  • #20
    SectionF
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    Irish players would be more expensive in sterling for English/SPL clubs to buy, should we ever get to the stage where we ask for realistic fees.


  • #21
    micks
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    eirebhoy wrote: »
    Will the British exchange rate affect things?

    Real paid €20m for Diarra. So that's £19m to Pompey. If they sold him a few months earlier the exchange rate would have meant only £15.5m for Pompey.

    An English club to buy spend £20m on a player, that's €21m. A few months ago that would have been €26m.

    Even wages. Madrid could pay a player €80k. In the summer that would have been £61k. Now British clubs would have to pay £76k a week to match Madrids offer.

    Could we see more players going to Spain because of money or maybe it won't affect things at all for whatever reason?

    good point and with the likes of Torres who was estimated to have cost €38mil(roughly doesn't matter exactly how much) that was £24/5mill now that will be £35mill that could have a huge affect and as you say swing the power to the euro zone.

    Corporate sponsorship could dry up in 2009 any teams relying on it to get by are fooked IMO. I know of a few GAA clubs who's sole income is sponsorship and most of it is gone now.


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