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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    gudman09 wrote: »
    Harsh but fair! but seriously, would i be wasting my time looking for an ext?

    Its worth a try asking anyway, the worst that they will say is NO!

    I'm back in the library again after a weekend break from FYP work..
    Really need to get something concrete together to email Deirdre with this morning...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Loula


    Think of all the newbies who just won't get to experience the madness of fipp!!!

    Also, take it as some comfort, some of us-surely just moi meme-have not got a fudgin clue as to when theirs is actually due in...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    Draft sent...7,977 words thus far, minus the final chapter 5, which is my recommendations and conclusions chapter...

    Time to sit back and wait now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Loula


    Lucky devil! I was supposed to send in some kinda draft before Christmas, went to Barce for a few days instead. My last count was 888, a nice even number


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭rmacm


    Something that some of you may find useful, if you need to submit your FYP in PDF format and you haven't got access to Acrobat Pro take a look at this http://www.pdfforge.org/products/pdfcreator/download

    Install it and it'll add a printer to your machine so when you want to convert your Word document to PDF you can go File -> Print and then select the PDFCreator printer and it'll generate a PDF file for you.

    You're better off using something like this or Acrobat Pro as some of the web based PDF converters can do strange things like mangle images in your document which is probably the last thing you want to worry about when you're submitting it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Mossin wrote: »
    Draft sent...7,977 words thus far, minus the final chapter 5, which is my recommendations and conclusions chapter...

    Time to sit back and wait now

    You're finished (bar editing):eek::eek:

    Time to get a move on. I'm readin lots of crap that makes no sense in the C&S Office (being here to help in my official capacity before anyone states I shouldn't be doing it here) and the library doesn't have the 10th edition of a book I want, only the 4th from 1995:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,467 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Ah the library is fully useless for any newer editions.

    I have nothing but sympathy for all of you at these difficult times :p :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TheInquisitor


    Haha its 14 days till i have to hand in my FYP. Haven't started it yet or even contacted my Supervisor(which i have no intention of doing). Starting tomorrow...hopefully!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 TeganRainIsGod


    Haha its 14 days till i have to hand in my FYP. Haven't started it yet or even contacted my Supervisor(which i have no intention of doing). Starting tomorrow...hopefully!



    you sir, are a F*CKING LEGEND!!!!



    i gather everyone here is all marketing heads.....???


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    ninty9er wrote: »
    You're finished (bar editing):eek::eek:

    Time to get a move on. I'm readin lots of crap that makes no sense in the C&S Office (being here to help in my official capacity before anyone states I shouldn't be doing it here) and the library doesn't have the 10th edition of a book I want, only the 4th from 1995:rolleyes:

    Well fingers crossed that Deirdre doesnt rip what I've done to shreds...If its ok then all I have to do is finalise my findings, and edit it yeah...

    Hows it going for you anyhow overall?
    Haha its 14 days till i have to hand in my FYP. Haven't started it yet or even contacted my Supervisor(which i have no intention of doing). Starting tomorrow...hopefully!

    Thats excellent, although since your supervisor will be correcting it in the end, it might be advisable to contact them. Just an idea :)
    I assume that you are BBS btw, same deadline as myself and a few others here.
    i gather everyone here is all marketing heads.....???

    Not at all, I think that I am the only one in 4th year anyhow, unless some of these newbs are also in my class :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Loula


    I only seem to grace the library as a meeting point, something I hope to work on in the next week!

    No marketing for me-New Media & English, they probably don't even expect an fyp from me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭dK1NG


    you sir, are a F*CKING EEIJIT!!!!


    FYP.

    Now thats just taking the piss tbh, unless you're one of those people who only have to do a 6000 word FYP, in which case you'll still have time to watch the day time soaps etc and get it finished in plenty of time!

    I'm just glad mine is well and truly behind me!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    Still awaiting a response, but as she was just back to work yesterday, I'm kind of understanding about it...

    I've been working away anyhow, and edited as I went. I added another 7 references this evening..
    I've Chapters 1- 4 done imo.
    Just the concluding chapter to do tmrw..Hopefully!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Fall_Guy


    dK1NG wrote: »
    FYP.

    Now thats just taking the piss tbh, unless you're one of those people who only have to do a 6000 word FYP, in which case you'll still have time to watch the day time soaps etc and get it finished in plenty of time!

    I'm just glad mine is well and truly behind me!

    Nonsense, I did my M.A. Dissertation, start to finish, in 3 weeks. 2 weeks is plenty of time for an FYP as long as you're not worried about those little things like sleep or good marks. The first time my superviser saw anything I wrote was the day I arrived up with my three bound copies of my dissertation that I never got the time to even proof-read for spelling/punctuation errors, let alone the actual quality of work!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭ergonomics


    Are we still able to take out just 4 books from the library or does the number increase for 4th year? I'm driving down to Limerick tomorrow just to get books and was wondering if they let us have a few more :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭klong


    6 for 4th years and postgrads. And then 2 inter-library loans books and 5 articles via inter library loans max (I think)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭ergonomics


    Brilliant! When I was on Erasmus the library there allowed undergrads to take out 15 books at a time. I think 4 is way too little.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Chapter 1 is now catching up with the wordcount of chapter 4, standing at approx 600 and 620 respectively.

    Met my supervisor at 11:30, spent an hour browsing the net afterwards and then got about 250 words added to Chapter 1.

    She's understanding of the mentality and mentalness of having 5 chapters and a conclusion as WIP at a point in time...I get bored easily....might move onto chapter 3 after lunch now.:rolleyes:

    Anyhow what was I saying....oh yes, she wants me to finish Chapters 1-4 for Tuesday.

    I have my conclusion kind of set from reading. I know what I want the outcome to be, I explained what that outcome was, and she's happy for me to work towards that. Though it's slightly different from what I thought when I started. Lets just say, if my FYP ever gets in the hands of the legislators (which I might assist it in doing:P) it could be costly for inefficient or deceptive small companies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    I got my response, and due to a hangover today, I've done feck all about it :(

    Into the library to make all those changes....and if I'd known I needed pages numbers for direct quotes, I'd have paid more attention....I've over 45 references to re-read now and search for the page numbers!! :mad:

    Lots of niggly **** to do tonight...

    Oh yeah, my supervisor will be away from next Tuesday in the UK, and will have limited internet access...so basically she wont see my FYP again unless I get in done by this weekend


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peteee


    Mossin wrote: »
    Into the library to make all those changes....and if I'd known I needed pages numbers for direct quotes, I'd have paid more attention....I've over 45 references to re-read now and search for the page numbers!! :mad:

    You could try Google Book search. Bash in the quote and if it has the book it'll allow you to read the pages in and around the quote. The page number should be there.

    Disregard if this doesn't work, obviously!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    Peteee wrote: »
    You could try Google Book search. Bash in the quote and if it has the book it'll allow you to read the pages in and around the quote. The page number should be there.

    Disregard if this doesn't work, obviously!

    I spent 4 hours last night re-editing the whole FYP, and managed to get the vast majority of them done.

    Made suggested changes to Chapters 2-4 this morning too.
    Now adding to my research methodology section...when thats done, I think I only have my conclusions and recommendations to finalise


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Thank fvck my supervisor never handed in my KBSREC proposal....son't fancy having to write a reseach methodology.

    My mother kindly took the car, with all my books and FYP crap (and overdue 3 day loan) to work with her this morning:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    ninty9er wrote: »
    Thank fvck my supervisor never handed in my KBSREC proposal....son't fancy having to write a reseach methodology.

    My mother kindly took the car, with all my books and FYP crap (and overdue 3 day loan) to work with her this morning:rolleyes:

    I'm not doing primary research, so I didnt have to hand in that ethics form, but I still had to do a methodology section cos a of poxy content analysis chapter that I'm doing...

    Any excuse for you not to do work I'd say Ninty ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Mossin wrote: »
    I'm not doing primary research, so I didnt have to hand in that ethics form, but I still had to do a methodology section cos a of poxy content analysis chapter that I'm doing...

    Any excuse for you not to do work I'd say Ninty ;)

    Any excuse. The expansion I've added to make the project clearer puts an easy 200-300 extra words into each chapter, jumping to 500-600 with a little work and analysis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    My mother kindly took the car, with all my books and FYP crap (and overdue 3 day loan) to work with her this morning

    I now have yore books fyi ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    I braved the awful weather to get to the library today, and it was worth it!

    Finished my final chapter and the conclusion of chapter 4.

    So now I await my supervisor's response Monday, and if all is ok, then I can write my Abstract on Mon/Tues and have it all printed and done by Wednesday. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    I'm getting worried about my wordcount. I've come to a roadblock on chapter 1. Don't see that there's much else I can say with only 800 words. do have 5 chapters however, which means I'll be just scraping over the line at 5,000 unless I discover the accounting standards equivalent of the meaning of life, the long version. However, chapter 1 deals with one issue, while chapter 5 has 4 standards under inquisition.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭ergonomics


    I'm hoping to get quite a bit of work done this week since I've got the dreaded mumps and can't do any 'socialising', as the doctor put it. So pissed off. I'm going to miss the first few days of college too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 playingpirate


    Im in the same boat as ninty9er with the word count, 5500 words so far and cant think of another relevant thing to say!
    I've still another interview to do which should increase my word count by about 400- 550 but thats it.
    My introduction chapter is really short (800 words ish) and my supervior cut out 1000 words out of my 2nd chapter, he doesnt want it to be any more than 3 pages max!!

    I actually kind of wish the bibliography counted as part of the wordcount!

    Oh, I was just wondering, Im doing primary research,well two interviews, but my supervisor has said nothing about a research methodology section at all??
    Am i required to do one??
    And if so what in the name of god do you say in it??

    Im kind of using a previous fyp on the exact same topic a few years ago as a guide line,and they did interviews but no research methodology section...
    Im confused...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Mossin


    It cant do any harm to say how u researched the topic.
    When you say that you are doing primary research, then just go into the library and get a few books on how to write a research proposal, or business research methods. Get references from those on what primary and secondary research definitions are...it sounds like a load of crap, and tbh it is! But it adds to the word count and can add value also.


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