Derby v Manchester United - CC Semi Final (1st Leg)

Spud83

Derby V Manchester United

Live on Sky Sports 1 from 7.30 (kick off at 7.45).

Manchester United (from): Kuszczak, Foster, Amos, Neville, Rafael, Vidic, Evans, O'Shea, Nani, Ronaldo, Anderson, Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher, Gibson, Possebon, Giggs, Park, Rooney, Berbatov, Tevez, Welbeck.

Cant get the Derby squad.

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Cakewalk for Manchester tbh.

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foster

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raf

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vidic

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evans

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oshea
gibson----possebon----anderson----park

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tevez

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wellback

Spud83

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Kuszczak

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Rafael---Vidic

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Evans---O'Shea
-Nani--Possebon-Gibson--Anderson

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Tevez

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Wellbeck

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Possebon, Gibson, Rafeal, Evans all deserve to play in the Semis and final after getting us this far.

I would have Park in there after him not playing at the weekend but I think his energy will be kept for Chelsea so the only real option for left mid is Anderson. Hoping Tosic might be good for a run out in the second leg.

Little disappointed Fabio ain't around the squad but it could still be too early for the chap and O'Shea brings some experience to the side and will prob not be playing at the weekend anyway.

kida

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

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Kuszczak

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Rafael---Vidic

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Evans---O'Shea
-Nani--Possebon-Gibson--Anderson

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Tevez

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Wellbeck

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Possebon, Gibson, Rafeal, Evans all deserve to play in the Semis and final after getting us this far.

I would have Park in there after him not playing at the weekend but I think his energy will be kept for Chelsea so the only real option for left mid is Anderson. Hoping Tosic might be good for a run out in the second leg.

Little disappointed Fabio ain't around the squad but it could still be too early for the chap and O'Shea brings some experience to the side and will prob not be playing at the weekend anyway.

can see Vidic being rested - Neville or O'Shea at CB

deisedevil

I'd like to see

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Foster

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Raf--Neville--Evans--O'Shea--

Park-Fletcher-Anderson-Nani

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Tevez----Wellbeck

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Above all I'd love to see wellbeck play again and get another chance to see what he's made of.

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kida wrote: »

can see Vidic being rested - Neville or O'Shea at CB

so whole be left back then

Spud83

kida wrote: »

can see Vidic being rested - Neville or O'Shea at CB

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

so whole be left back then

Yeah O'Shea really isn't an option with no one else available for LB. Neville is but I expect him to play against Chelsea so three games in a week could be too much.

deisedevil wrote: »

I'd like to see

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Foster

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Raf--Neville--Evans--O'Shea--

Park-Fletcher-Anderson-Nani

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Tevez----Wellbeck

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Above all I'd love to see wellbeck play again and get another chance to see what he's made of.

Do you not think its a bit harsh on Gibson, and Possebon to be dropped for the semi final after getting us there?

alanmurphy83

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Do you not think its a bit harsh on Gibson, and Possebon to be dropped for the semi final after getting us there?

Nope. Its a cup semi final. There's a balance. I think united can make the final without playing too many 1st teamers but it would be lunacy to play reserves in the final.

It's about playing the strongest team needed to win, not giving youngsters a go out of their depth (not saying they are necessarily out of their depth btw)

Spud83

Deleted User wrote: »

Nope. Its a cup semi final. There's a balance. I think united can make the final without playing too many 1st teamers but it would be lunacy to play reserves in the final.

It's about playing the strongest team needed to win, not giving youngsters a go out of their depth (not saying they are necessarily out of their depth btw)

IMO they have proven they are capable at this level, and capable of winning the game and therefore they should be given the opportunity to keep going. Otherwise when are they going to get the opportunity to prove they are up to it.

Plus with a strong bench any disasters should be easily avoided especially with a second leg at OT to come.

I also believe if we get to the final the same players should be used.

Tom65

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Foster

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Raf--Neville--Evans--O'Shea
Park--Possebon--Gibson--Nani

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Tevez

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Wellbeck

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I wouldn't mind Anderson playing in place of either Possebon or Gibson because I think the midfield there is quite weak (physically). If either of them missed the first leg, I'd expect to see the other in the second leg.

I think Welbeck should definitely start. He played well against Southampton, and it's not often he'll get the chance to play couple of first team games in a row.

deisedevil

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Do you not think its a bit harsh on Gibson, and Possebon to be dropped for the semi final after getting us there?

Yep it would be harsh on them but there is no fair way of doing things when it comes to a semi final.

If we got to the final would they be playing?

Spud83

deisedevil wrote: »

If we got to the final would they be playing?

IMO if they get us there yes they should be.

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I think it's disgracefully disrespectful for a manager to use the fringe players and reserve teamers in the early rounds then tell them to feck off, thanks for getting us here, but we'll do without now.

FutureGuy

When I was starting junior soccer, was playing for local B team. We reached the county final before 7 of us were dropped for the final when we were replaced by the A team using our names :mad:

Pr!ck of a manager.

Back on topic, I think the yound players that got us into this position should be given their games tonight. If Derby get a result (unlikely), then things can be turned around at OT.

Mikeyt086

A similar if not identical team to that which beat Southampton should be playing tonight. If they did the job in almost identical situations (Away at an out of form Championship side) then they can do it again.

Insect Overlord

An out-of-form Championship side with an inspirational new manager.

UnitedIrishman

An File wrote: »

An out-of-form Championship side with an inspirational new manager.

To be honest I can't see Nigel Clough doing much between yesterday and today.

Des

Des wrote: »

I think it's disgracefully disrespectful for a manager to use the fringe players and reserve teamers in the early rounds then tell them to feck off, thanks for getting us here, but we'll do without now.

Almost every premiership manager does this in the FA Cup until they get an all Premiership tie.

Insect Overlord

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

To be honest I can't see Nigel Clough doing much between yesterday and today.

In practical terms you're probably completely right.

However, it's happened so many times that teams have raised their standards when new management was annonunced, especially in the earliest games.

I'm not saying Derby will give United a real contest over two legs, but they just might play with more confidence for a while now that Jewell is gone.

BaZmO*

Des wrote: »

I think it's disgracefully disrespectful for a manager to use the fringe players and reserve teamers in the early rounds then tell them to feck off, thanks for getting us here, but we'll do without now.

I'd actually agree with you to a degree but it's not as if it's a new thing and it's almost like a right of passage for the younger squad members to be ousted when they get further on in the competion only to be the ones to be doing the ousting once they've become established players.

UnitedIrishman

Des wrote: »

I think it's disgracefully disrespectful for a manager to use the fringe players and reserve teamers in the early rounds then tell them to feck off, thanks for getting us here, but we'll do without now.

Put it this way would you really be that bothered if you were a youngster, rarely playing for the first team, getting to play in the league cup or FA Cup alongside some of the senior players? Not really. At the end of the day, everyone is pulling for the same club.

If they play well, they'll eventually break into the first team anyways. Swings and roundabouts.

ROCKMAN

Utd Team

KUSZCZAK

RAFAEL
EVANS
VIDIC
O SHEA

GIBSON
SCHOLES
ANDERSON


NANI
WELBECK
TEVEZ

BENCH , AMOS , RONALDO , POSSEBON , GIGGS , FLETCHER , ROONEY , CARRICK

Mitch Connor

PIG
Rafael - Evans - Vidic - O'Shea
Gibdon - Scholes - Anderson
Welbeck - Tevez - Nani

Smegball

Interesting team , we should win with that, good to see Welbeck, Evans, Rafael and Gibson in there, slightly dissapointed to see no Possebon though.
Anderson to score his first tonight? :pac:
Tommy K in nets, he must be considered Number 2 at this stage, sigh.
Nani simply has to produce the goods tonight imo. He's been an incredible let down this season but I have faith still.

An Citeog

I think we're fairly likely to see Gibson on the right, Nani on the left with Scholes and Anderson in the centre. Delighted that Wellbeck is getting more game time aswell. I would've liked to see Vidic rested, especially with Chelsea at the weekend but we're fairly short on cover in defence atm, so it was inevitable.

Insect Overlord

I can't wait to see Welbeck playing (I missed the first half on Sunday).
Gibson, hopefully, will be dragged up a notch by having Scholes beside him.
Shame Foster isn't starting, hopefully we'll see him in the 2nd leg.

eclectichoney

Thank god they didnt rest Vidic after all!

RasTa

ffs why is Vidic playing and where is Foster?

chips1234

eclectichoney wrote: »

Thank god they didnt rest Vidic after all!

+1 although he did nearly knock evans out with an accidental headbutt there:D

nkay1985

Anybody have a decent internet link by any chance?

redout

fuvk me !!!!!!

1 - 0

Derby

Cracker

eclectichoney

Great finish in fairness

mike65

yaY!

redout

ROCKMAN wrote: »

Utd Team

KUSZCZAK

RAFAEL
EVANS
VIDIC
O SHEA

GIBSON
SCHOLES
ANDERSON


NANI
WELBECK
TEVEZ

BENCH , AMOS , RONALDO , POSSEBON , GIGGS , FLETCHER , ROONEY , CARRICK

New signing ?:)

genericgoon

Its been coming. United looking very poor tonight.

eclectichoney

Indeed. I;m getting tired of Nani tbh and that was just sloppy from O'Shea.

UnitedIrishman

We look terrible. Our passing is all over the place and Tevez and Wellbeck have got nothing up front. Was hoping Nani was going to stay down there a while ago.

mayordenis

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

We look terrible. Our passing is all over the place and Tevez and Wellbeck have got nothing up front. Was hoping Nani was going to stay down there a while ago.

as a pool fan I believe ye need to persevere with Nani at all costs.

Insect Overlord

O'Shea and Nani have been woeful.

eclectichoney

If Vidic wasn't there a lot more damage would have been done. Even Scholes hasn't made his presence felt at all.

mayordenis

Should of been red.

Insect Overlord

Rafael is one of the very few positives in this match.

Here come the big boys!

ghouldaddy07

feck that was close from ronaldo.

eclectichoney

Jaysus. Lucky not to go 2 down there.

Insect Overlord

Can somebody remind me why I'm watching this? I really can't remember.

Aidric

Utd have been very poor tonight even after bringing on the big guns. Derby are well up for it and closing down space well.

eclectichoney

Thank God we're not playing Inter for a few weeks yet. If we don't get ourselves together I dread to think what the score could be tbh.

Insect Overlord

Gibson's shooting from distance again. Says a lot about their performance in general.

ShaneU

Des wrote: »

Cakewalk for Manchester tbh.

lol

DenMan

Barazite on as a sub there. He's on a season long loan from Arsenal isn't he? Looking good for Derby. Second leg is going to be huge for them.