17. Nani

Mr Alan

keane2097 wrote: »

FYI

No results from last year for some reason - must be compiled by a Liverpool fan :pac:

must have been wrong apologies.

keane2097

Mr Alan wrote: »

must have been wrong apologies.

I'd say he's probably been on the shortlist a good few times...

astrofool

Mr Alan wrote: »

at no point has Anderson had Gerrard in any ****ing pocket :rolleyes:

we were the better team against Utd in Anfield last year, just as we were against them this year and the year before last.

What type of rose red tinted eyewear are you wearing? Last year at Anfield United won at a canter, scored before half time, and Liverpool barely had a chance all match. Year before, O'Shea robbed you of a draw.

eZe^

Mr Alan wrote: »

must have been wrong apologies.

He's won UEFA Club Player of The Year?

Mr Alan

Smegball wrote: »

For Christ sakes, give the lads some time, everybody has dips in form. Look at Xabi Alonso, first season was absolutely amazing, last couple of seasons very very dissapointing and people wanted him out for Barry, this season? Back to his best.

Give the lads some time.

in fairness, that is a ridiculous comparrison.

joined liverpool, amazing in his first season, very good in his second season, decent in his third season, very average in his 4th season, amazing in his 5th season.

Nani, joined Utd, poor in his first season apart from a couple of decent goals. Poorer in his second season thus far.

Apart from momentary glimpses in single matches, Nani has never shown he is a top player (copyright redknapp), whereas Alonso has proven his class before his loss in form.

Boggles

eagle eye wrote: »

Honestly you are intolerable at times.

Nani has been very poor in general at United. He loses the ball way too much and is far too greedy also. Defending what he has done so far for United is just ridiculous. Its easy to have those stats at United with all the attacking prowess around him, it does not mean that he is playing well. His overall general play at United so far could be easily described as headless, greedy and lacking vision.

However I would be in the camp that believes that he is a future superstar when he gains more experience.

I do believe that the best thing United could do is to buy someone to compete with him for his position. I think that would fastrack his development as he does seem ultra competitive.

TBH you used up all your credits on judging a player when you stated Toure was on of the best centre backs in the league. Apologies if I don't engage you in this, you have no idea what your talking about as far I have seen from your nonsense posts.

Mr Alan

astrofool wrote: »

What type of rose red tinted eyewear are you wearing? Last year at Anfield United won at a canter, scored before half time, and Liverpool barely had a chance all match. Year before, O'Shea robbed you of a draw.

we had a shed load of chances in the game at Anfield last year. the year before we were robbed of a draw & we dominated the game.most utd fans admitted this at the time, no tinted glasses with me, its Utd game plan when they play us-this year it didnt work as they made mistakes & we have a higher calibre of player than we have previous years.

James Forde

Anderson bossed the midfield that day, ask most football supporters and they will agree

eagle eye

Boggles wrote: »

TBH you used up all your credits on judging a player when you stated Toure was on of the best centre backs in the league. Apologies if I don't engage you in this, you have no idea what your talking about as far I have seen from your nonsense posts.

One bad half season, where injury has played a part, does not make Kolo Toure a bad player.

And to the post above in general, my response is good and keep it that way.

redout

eZe^ wrote: »

He's won UEFA Club Player of The Year?

He won a European cup on his own.:)

Ok not quite true but he had a major part to play in it.

James Forde

Mr Alan wrote: »

we had a shed load of chances in the game at Anfield last year. the year before we were robbed of a draw & we dominated the game.most utd fans admitted this at the time, no tinted glasses with me, its Utd game plan when they play us-this year it didnt work as they made mistakes & we have a higher calibre of player than we have previous years.

Robbie Keane?

Boggles

eagle eye wrote: »

One bad half season, where injury has played a part, does not make Kolo Toure a bad player.

Never said he was a bad player, just not one of the best CB's in the league. :rolleyes:

eagle eye

Boggles wrote: »

Never said he was a bad player, just not one of the best CB's in the league. :rolleyes:

Well he has been over the last number of years. But isn't this a Nani thread?

Mr Alan

bryanjf wrote: »

Robbie Keane?

Robbie Keane, Albert Riera, Martin Skrtl

eirebhoy

I thought he was rubbish last night. Final straw with me too and I don't support them.

Jivin Turkey

So many similarities between Nani and Ronaldo in his first few years.

He'll score a tonne of goals in a couple of seasons too, but the poor crossing will persist, similar to Ronaldo.

Warper

United should get rid of Nani, Ronaldo and the poor mans Messi - Tevez. Nani is simply braindead, Ronaldo has his eye on himself and Tevez just runs around a lot. I originally thought Tevez was good but really he is just a workhorse - i hope Argentina realise this too and drop him.

internelligent

Warper wrote: »

United should get rid of Nani, Ronaldo and the poor mans Messi - Tevez. Nani is simply braindead, Ronaldo has his eye on himself and Tevez just runs around a lot. I originally thought Tevez was good but really he is just a workhorse - i hope Argentina realise this too and drop him.

+1

Frisbee

Warper wrote: »

United should get rid of Nani, Ronaldo and the poor mans Messi - Tevez. Nani is simply braindead, Ronaldo has his eye on himself and Tevez just runs around a lot. I originally thought Tevez was good but really he is just a workhorse - i hope Argentina realise this too and drop him.

Are you having a laugh?

keane2097

Warper wrote: »

United should get rid of Nani, Ronaldo and the poor mans Messi - Tevez. Nani is simply braindead, Ronaldo has his eye on himself and Tevez just runs around a lot. I originally thought Tevez was good but really he is just a workhorse - i hope Argentina realise this too and drop him.

I wish there was a "sarcastic thanks" button.

roryc

keane2097 wrote: »

Sure you can't use any of that as an argument - you just made it up in your brain.

"I'd say Nani thinks he's the man - get rid of him"

Give me a break :rolleyes:

What an odd post...

Unearthly

Warper wrote: »

United should get rid of Nani, Ronaldo and the poor mans Messi - Tevez. Nani is simply braindead, Ronaldo has his eye on himself and Tevez just runs around a lot. I originally thought Tevez was good but really he is just a workhorse - i hope Argentina realise this too and drop him.

I agree

Should also get rid of Rio, Vidic, Evra, Rooney and Scholes while they are at it

keane2097

roryc wrote: »

What an odd post...

What I said is true - none of what I highlighted in your previous post has any basis in reality, you fabricated an argument out of absolutely nothing in your brain.

Xavi6

bryanjf wrote: »

Just a quick note regards Anderson, don't forget he played the olympics this year aswell, and showed ALOT of potential last season.

And was absolutely woeful in them. I watched all Brazil's games bar one I think (thank you time zone) and he was piss poor. Even Lucas looked better.

(Jo was **** too btw before anyone accuses me of City bias)

Boggles

Warper wrote: »

United should get rid of Nani, Ronaldo and the poor mans Messi - Tevez. Nani is simply braindead, Ronaldo has his eye on himself and Tevez just runs around a lot. I originally thought Tevez was good but really he is just a workhorse - i hope Argentina realise this too and drop him.

internelligent wrote: »

+1

Rafa, Phil? Is that ye?

Spud83

Mr Alan wrote: »

played with Sporting since 2005 incl games in the CL in 2006, surely thats top flight football?

Nani has played about 100 top flight matches with nearly 20 in Europe....and was bought for a lot of money....he is not some fresh face scamp from the academy

Do I include the Portuguese league as top flight football?

No no I don't.

So aside from six games for Sporting in the CL, he has had one and half seasons of top flight football. Therefore I believe he has not yet been given enough time to develop and mature.

Mr Alan

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Do I include the Portuguese league as top flight football?

No no I don't.

So aside from six games for Sporting in the CL, he has had one and half seasons of top flight football. Therefore I believe he has not yet been given enough time to develop and mature.

So people like Deco had no experience in top flight football until they moved to Barca?

Wat about Eusabio? never played top flight football?

ok, lets just agree to disagree.

Spud83

Mr Alan wrote: »

So people like Deco had no experience in top flight football until they moved to Barca?

Wat about Eusabio? never played top flight football?

ok, lets just agree to disagree.

Seriously you are bring a player from the 60-70's into it. Your really think arguing the merits of league 30-40 years later is a worth while argument.

Apart from his international appearances and European experience no Deco didn't.

I think we will just have to disagree. You consider the Portuguese league is at the top level football, I don't.

Mr Alan

its not the best or in the top 2-3, but it is among the top leagues in Europe, yes it is. I'd rate it on a par with the dutch or french league tbh.

and to write of someone with a fair bit of experience in it as having no experience of top football & using that as an excuse for underperformance for 18mths is laughable.

Mitch Connor

The standard of the Portuguese league is easily high enough for a young player to develop their game in. Arguable as to whether they could reach their full potential in that league, but it certainly can't be discounted in the development of a player. Sure,the English, Italian and Spanish leagues would be a step up, but it is hardly reserve league level.

_blank_

Mr Alan wrote: »

its not the best or in the top 2-3, but it is among the top leagues in Europe, yes it is. I'd rate it on a par with the dutch or french league tbh.

I'd agree with that

(impressed yet?)

Carroller16

I didn't mean for it to get like this

Regards,
OP

Mr Alan

its ok carroller16!

*hugs OP*

Carroller16

*Accepts hug*

*feels better and a little bit warm*

Spud83

Mr Alan wrote: »

its ok carroller16!

*hugs OP*

Carroller16 wrote: »

*Accepts hug*

*feels better and a little bit warm*

you both sicken me.

Mitch Connor

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

you both sicken me.

Homophobe!!

Spud83

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Homophobe!!

How I'm sticking up for Nani

Mitch Connor

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

How I'm sticking up for Nani

ah, one of them self-hating gheys

James Forde

Xavi6 wrote: »

And was absolutely woeful in them. I watched all Brazil's games bar one I think (thank you time zone) and he was piss poor. Even Lucas looked better.

(Jo was **** too btw before anyone accuses me of City bias)

I never said he played well......:pac:

Headshot

mg what has this thread come too

10 pages about Nani,liverpool and Homophobes

Spud83

Mitch Connor wrote: »

ah, one of them self-hating gheys

Na, seeing a Liverpool fan and Man Utd fan e-hugging each other is what sickens me.

Almost as bad as seeing Man Utd fans support Liverpool in the CL final in 05.


Joking about the e-hugging part, not about the CL

citytillidie

Warper wrote: »

United should get rid of Nani, Ronaldo and the poor mans Messi - Tevez. Nani is simply braindead, Ronaldo has his eye on himself and Tevez just runs around a lot. I originally thought Tevez was good but really he is just a workhorse - i hope Argentina realise this too and drop him.

Tevez - Rich mans Dirk Kuyt :P:D

James Forde

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

mg what has this thread come too

10 pages about Nani,liverpool and Homophobes

you forgot anderson son son

eagle eye

Unearthly wrote: »

I agree

Should also get rid of Rio, Vidic, Evra, Rooney and Scholes while they are at it

No keep Scholes, he has a long promising career ahead of him.

Mitch Connor

along with Giggs and Neville, i reckon Fergie has a new batch of fledgelings...

Carroller16

Unearthly wrote: »

I agree

Should also get rid of Rio, Vidic, Evra, Rooney and Scholes while they are at it

ah sure why not take VDS, Gar neville, hargreaves, brown, ronaldo, berba, giggs, foster, park, tosic, carrick, welbeck, fabio, rafa, o'shea, evans, fletch, manucho, gibson, PIG, Campbell, Tevez, Hewson, Possebon, Cleverley, Gray,
Zieler, Chester, Amos, Macheda and Ljajic


....while your at it

ziggy

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NaiveMelodies

If a player can generate 10 pages of conversation on an internet forum not linked with his club, he has got to have something going for him!

Mitch Connor

only1stevo wrote: »

If a player can generate 10 pages of conversation on an internet forum not linked with his club, he has got to have something going for him!

Boggles.

Spud83

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Boggles.

actually Mr_Alan has posted the most in this thread.