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I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it any more!
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Ultimate Chin wrote: »By the looks of our government they cant run at all
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This government's job is to run the country in a way that maintains the wellbeing of all its citizens - something they are fundamentally failing to do each and every day.
Why are they failing do you think? Besides their personality traits, why have we gone from a booming country to a pennyless one?
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Ticktactoe wrote: »Why are they failing do you think? Besides their personality traits, why have we gone from a booming country to a pennyless one?
The budget for start had more holes in it than swiss cheese. They put up tax in the most roundabout way, adding income levies and reducing wages (or planning to) instead of just raising income tax like normal people.
They put up VAT in a time when the economy needs stimulus instead of giving people reasons NOT to speand money. If more people had bought Dell computers 1,900 people would still have jobs.
They send the Tániste and Minister for Defence for an chat with Michael Dell to try and save the jobs instead of maybe, just maybe, making the country competitive again by lowering taxes and increasing incentives for multinationals. Dell wages weren't affected by the minimum wage and aren't bothered by unions so I have no idea why they couldn't have just suggested a pay cut rather than blanket move. While I realise we don't exactly have cash on the hip, it will pay off it the long run.
The health service always has been, and remains, a complete and utter shambles. 'Nuff said.
Shall I go on?...
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The budget for s atrat had more holes in it that swiss cheese. They put up taxi in the most roundabout way, adding income levies and reducing wages (or planning to) instead of just raising income tax like normal people.
They put up VAT in a time when the economy need stimulus instead of giving people reasons NOT to speand money. If more people had bought Dell computers 1,900 people would still have jobs.
They send the Tániste and Minister for Defence for an chat with Michael Dell to try and save the jobs instead of maybe, just maybe, making the country competitive again by lowering taxes and increasing incentives for multinationals. Dell wages weren't affected by the minimum wage and aren't bothered by unions so I have no idea why they coudln;t have just suggested a pay cut rather than blanket move. While I realise we don't exactly have cash on the hip, it will pay off it the long run.
The health service always has been, and remains, a complete and utter shambles. 'Nuff said.
Shall I go on?...
With the vat, do you think people have the money to spend with everything that is going on? Regardless of putting it up or down, do people have the money to spend?
Did Dell leave Ireland because of the government???
The higher income levy is implemented on anybody earning over 100'000. Are you saying that this should have been done by implementing it through the taxes and taxing anybody earning over 36,600 @ 42% instead of the now 40%?
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The budget for start had more holes in it that swiss cheese. They put up taxi in the most roundabout way, adding income levies and reducing wages (or planning to) instead of just raising income tax like normal people.
They put up VAT in a time when the economy needs stimulus instead of giving people reasons NOT to speand money. If more people had bought Dell computers 1,900 people would still have jobs.
They send the Tániste and Minister for Defence for an chat with Michael Dell to try and save the jobs instead of maybe, just maybe, making the country competitive again by lowering taxes and increasing incentives for multinationals. Dell wages weren't affected by the minimum wage and aren't bothered by unions so I have no idea why they couldn't have just suggested a pay cut rather than blanket move. While I realise we don't exactly have cash on the hip, it will pay off it the long run.
The health service always has been, and remains, a complete and utter shambles. 'Nuff said.
Shall I go on?...
All the stuff you mention here is what happened after the bust began. The major mistakes had already been made while Bertie was at the helm.0 -
Ticktactoe wrote: »With the vat, do you think people have the money to spend with everything that is going on? Regardless of putting it up or down, do people have the money to spend?
The economy works because people spend money every day, but putting VAT down a bit (as was done in the UK), consumer and economic activity is increased. In the long run this results in a greater return than leaving things as they are, and it bolsters businesses and the economy. Theroetically, anyway.Ticktactoe wrote: »Did Dell leave Ireland because of the government???
Dell will be leaving Ireland (in part) because they feel it will be more profitable to build the computers in Poland. What Ireland needed to do was compete with what the polish are offering and that is in the hands of the government.
Look at it this way, 1,900 people claiming the dole costs €380,000 a week before factoring in their rent allowance, increases for children, wives, husbands, medical bills etc. Factor in the 4 support jobs for each of the Dell jobs lost at yo're looking at a possible cost of €2-3million a WEEK to the exchequer and that's before you look at the economic impact.
A few million in extra grants and investment in rail links, road links and maybe a drop in taxes may have made Dell stay. Over the course of a single year that would have saved €100-150 million. Again, cheaper in the long run.
This government is looking for quick fixes and simple refuses to plan ahead.Ticktactoe wrote: »The higher income levy is implemented on anybody earning over 100'000.Are you saying that this should have been done by implementing it through the taxes and taxing anybody earning over 36,600 @ 42% instead of the now 40%?
The government in their wisdom consider €15,000 enough for one person to live on. Given that, I think 2% higher taxes compensate for by the lower VAT rates would have a low impact on people earning that sort of money. People will understand that the country is in need of extra funds and that 2% tighter for a couple of years is just going to have to happen. Thing is, it's more like 0.5-1.0% if you factor in the VAT they'll save.
People are more likely to notice VAT soming off the till that coming off their income tax, meaning they wont spend enough of their disposable income over a 3%-5% difference. While this is a good thing in one sense, the economy will only get worse without investment. It's all about balancing the finances and though that's difficult, the government should be up to the job.Ticktactoe wrote: »If you wouldn't mind, please do go on.... Im curious what people are thinking...
Some exaplmes that spring to mind include the €200 parking tax. Blanket intorduction of this is a stupid, moronic idea. Some people need to use their car to get to work. Introducing in in areas where there is regular public transport, and quadrupling it, though would be a great way to do it. Charging lazy peopl for colgging the streets works, because the ones that do it have money to burn. That and it's very satisfying
Another one is Metro North/Luas etc which are taking about 10 years to even get onto the drawing board. Other countries have them designed, built, opened and upgraded by the time one of our state architects on €500,000 a year even bother his lazy ass to pick up a pen.
Now, satisfied? Because any more I think boards.ie would have to start billing me for the bandwidth.All the stuff you mention here is what happened after the bust began. The major mistakes had already been made while Bertie was at the helm.
Granted. But I reckon I've addressed that. At the time I didn't like the look of Enda Kenny. I've put it down to inexperience and yes, maybe naiveity. But it's in the past and doesn't chnage my opinions now, in the present -which let's face it is what's important. No point living in 2007.
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