Benitez not happy with Fergie

UnitedIrishman

copacetic wrote: »

heh heh, poor response from ferguson there, just a couple of digs at rafa. didn't really know what to say, you could see he was well put out by rafa but was scared to say anything in case he got accused of being taken in by mind games!

Christ the Liverpool delusion continues.

ghouldaddy07

Highsider wrote: »

Should have been a red. Makes a mockery of the so called "respect campaign"....Doubt the press will talk about it mind you,but if that had have been Ballack or Drogba making that challange and then giving the ref a earful do you think they would'nt have been off ?

They would have, But if it had been ronaldo he would of been off straight away.


If john terry or gerard behaved the way rooney did they would also get a lesser punishment than a forien player.

I dont condone rooneys behavior at all today but I dont think being a utd player had anything to do with him not getting carded for it.

Villain

copacetic wrote: »

heh heh, poor response from ferguson there, just a couple of digs at rafa. didn't really know what to say, you could see he was well put out by rafa but was scared to say anything in case he got accused of being taken in by mind games!

I think Ferguson let his players do the talking and they did it in style

Dcully

LOL at ferguson calling Rafa bitter, the phrase look in the mirror comes to mind.

LOL also at certain man u fans puting "sir alex" into almost all their posts, its fecking hilarious.

I do agree its English players treated differently more so than man u ones in fairness.

K4t

I suppose the fact that Rooney was correct doesn't have anything to do with it? :rolleyes:

Rafa has just ignited United's season!

ghouldaddy07

Bah this row between fergie and benitez is fairly crap.

Bring back morinio he knows how to wind teams.

copacetic

Villain wrote: »

I think Ferguson let his players do the talking and they did it in style

except he didn't, he came out and talked about it

Headshot

K4t wrote: »

Rafa has just ignited United's season!

woke the sleeping beast :pac:

Dcully

So your feel Rooney was correct to kick a player from behind and then tell the ref to fcuk off?

The mind boggles :rolleyes:

eddiehead

K4t wrote: »

I suppose the fact that Rooney was correct doesn't have anything to do with it? :rolleyes:

Correct with the kicking out or correct with dismissing the ref when he called him over?

Villain

copacetic wrote: »

except he didn't, he came out and talked about it

He said very little, about 15 words in the interview I saw, did he give any other interviews?

copacetic

Villain wrote: »

He said very little, about 15 words in the interview I saw, did he give any other interviews?

you said he didn't talk about it, he did. much more than 15 words too.

m@cc@

Dcully wrote: »

LOL also at certain man u fans puting "sir alex" into almost all their posts, its fecking hilarious.

Not half as funny as claims of Sir Alex being 'scared'.

UnitedIrishman

copacetic wrote: »

you said he didn't talk about it, he did. much more than 15 words too.

He said "He's obviously angry about something", said his facts were wrong, then said we'll just concentrate on chasing the leaders.

If you take that as him being wound up I'd seriously question peoples sanity.

eddiehead

copacetic wrote: »

you said he didn't talk about it, he did. much more than 15 words too.

I didnt hear him say much either to be fair, he did take a dig calling Rafa disturbed but he certainly didnt go off on one or anything. Anyway, had Fergie come out with a rant it would have been seen as rising to whatever bait Rafa left with his remarks, making him every bit as bad if not worse.

Dcully

Who said scared?
I think youll find Benitez used the word nervous

Although after todays results its both Liverpool and Chelsea who are nervous tonight.

copacetic

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

He said "He's obviously angry about something", said his facts were wrong, then said we'll just concentrate on chasing the leaders.

If you take that as him being wound up I'd seriously question peoples sanity.

he called him 'disturbed' ffs. I call that wound up. You're right though, I'd question anyones sanity who can't see that.

Dcully

making him every bit as bad if not worse

Seriously wtf are you on?
What was bad about it?

It was just facts.

copacetic

eddiehead wrote: »

I didnt hear him say much either to be fair, he did take a dig calling Rafa disturbed but he certainly didnt go off on one or anything. Anyway, had Fergie come out with a rant it would have been seen as rising to whatever bait Rafa left with his remarks, making him every bit as bad if not worse.

agreed, thats what I said above. He had a few major pauses where you could see he was dying to say more imo, but didn't want to risk it in case he was seen as losing the 'mind games'

eddiehead

copacetic wrote: »

he called him 'disturbed' ffs. I call that wound up.

It was nothing more than a petty dig, perfectly within his rights IMO considering Rafa had a speech prepared

m@cc@

Dcully wrote: »

Who said scared?
I think youll find Benitez used the word nervous

Although after todays results its both Liverpool and Chelsea who are nervous tonight.

I think nervous is an understatement in Chelsea's case. On that showing, I'd be more worried about Villa.

copacetic wrote: »

he called him 'disturbed' ffs. I call that wound up. You're right though, I'd question anyones sanity who can't see that.

He called him 'disturbed'? Yes, he's truly wound up. He could crush a grape.

copacetic

eddiehead wrote: »

It was nothing more than a petty dig, perfectly within his rights IMO considering Rafa had a speech prepared

again, agreeing with you. You don't come out with 'petty digs' like that unless you are wound up. He is within his rights to say whatever the feck he wants.

Dcully

On that showing, I'd be more worried about Villa.

Very true.

Ive always thought Man U were the ones for Liverpool to worry about more than chelsea but i wouldnt rule out any of the top 3 for the title.

Ardent

Benitez needs to keep his mouth shut in future, especially just before big games. He's rubbish at mind-games. His comments cost us dearly in the CL last season and cost us again this weekend.

m@cc@

Ardent wrote: »

Benitez needs to keep his mouth shut in future, especially just before big games. He's rubbish at mind-games. His comments cost us dearly in the CL last season and cost us again this weekend.

I think Benitez was trying to take pressure off his own side but succeeded in exactly the opposite. Everyone will be watching for them to falter now. The title has been handed back in United's hands.

UnitedIrishman

copacetic wrote: »

he called him 'disturbed' ffs. I call that wound up. You're right though, I'd question anyones sanity who can't see that.

He's baiting. Like I said there are some delusional Liverpool fans around at present moment.

mormank

im making an official request that this thread be closed until further notice..

Dave!

mormank wrote: »

im making an official request that this thread be closed until further notice..

Not an OFFICIAL request?! :eek:

Chong

mormank wrote: »

im making an official request that this thread be closed until further notice..

Its pointless at this stage.

And I'm making an "official request" that it isn't!!! Why close it? It'll just get talked about in the club threads....

eddiehead

copacetic wrote: »

again, agreeing with you. You don't come out with 'petty digs' like that unless you are wound up.

I see where your coming from, all Im saying is he didnt seem even remotely rattled(well I suppose his team just beat Chelsea 3-0), I think it is slightly unfair to say he was wound up in any sense.

Ardent

Chong wrote: »

Its pointless at this stage.

What's pointless? I just joined this thread late - you want to close it because...??

eddiehead

m@cc@ wrote: »

I think Benitez was trying to take pressure off his own side but succeeded in exactly the opposite. Everyone will be watching for them to falter now. The title has been handed back in United's hands.

So what exactly was everyone doing BEFORE Rafa opened his mouth?. Be it right or wrong the majority of people were bangin' on about how Liverpool would blow it anyway, IMO what Rafa said made feck all difference.

Chong

Ardent wrote: »

What's pointless? I just joined this thread late - you want to close it because...??

Because its going to degenerate further in to a United V Pool Battle.

Boggles

Chong wrote: »

Because its going to degenerate further in to a United V Pool Battle.

Well the thread title is "Benitez not happy with Fergie" - Who do you want to talk about FFS, West Brom?

Fergie seemed genuinely concerned about Rafa's mental health. Hope he will be okay.

Headshot

Chong wrote: »

Because its going to degenerate further in to a United V Pool Battle.

even i had enough of that

i dont want this forum closed tbh

but i can see it happening

K4t

Chong wrote: »

Because its going to degenerate further in to a United V Pool Battle.

The fundamental structure of the PL.

As much as I'd hate to see the Scousers win the League (or anything else), it's good to see two teams with an abundance of history and 'real' rivalry fighting it out for the title.

Chardee MacDennis

Dave! wrote: »

Not an OFFICIAL request?! :eek:

hmm lets hope i can make an official request to ban people i dont like....

K4t

Fergie wrote:

Hopefully he will reflect and understand what he said was ridiculous.

*Ouch*

ShooterSF

Dcully wrote: »

LOL at ferguson calling Rafa bitter, the phrase look in the mirror comes to mind.

Getting a bit bored with this but I have to call ya up on this one. Surely whether Benitez was right or wrong on his comments calling Fergie up on complaining about fixtures is as much pot n kettle as anything.

Chong

For someone who called for this thread to be closed, Rafa is only at it again.

RAFA Benitez has followed up his rant at Sir Alex Ferguson by questioning David Gill’s dual role as Manchester United chief executive as well as FA decision maker.

Gill has been on the FA board since replacing David Dein 30 months ago and is highly regarded.

Benitez, who will have a third operation to remove kidney stones on Wednesday, alleged that United had influenced how their fixture list was drawn up and that the FA were lenient in disciplining Ferguson.

Talking about Gill, who is also on the FA World Cup board bidding for the 2018 tournament, Benitez said: “It’s another fact. So maybe we will talk in another press conference about facts.

“One fact is that a person that has a lot of power and control and is on a lot of committees is in the FA. So, something is very strange.”

Benitez is ready to meet Ferguson face to face following his fierce criticism of him and says he has got massive support from fellow managers.

Benitez is fed up of Ferguson’s attacks on Liverpool, and is not afraid of getting the infamous hair-dryer treatment.

He said: “Would I meet Mr Ferguson face to face? I don’t have any problem.

“I have a lot of respect for him as a good manager. If he wants to talk about the weather we can talk about the weather.

“I don’t need to put pressure on Manchester United. They are under pressure, they know they are, because when you talk too much about another team that means you are under pressure. I need to change my mobile phone because it is blocked with messages.

“Are they from managers? I can’t talk to you about what they have said to me.

“It was the right moment for me to say these things about Mr Ferguson.

“Mr Ferguson was talking too much about Liverpool and for too long a time so I think it was the right moment to say, ‘enough is enough’.

“And a lot of people think the facts I put on the table were right. We will wait and see what happens now.

“If Mr Ferguson continues saying things, OK, maybe we will have to look for more facts and maybe in 22 years we have a lot of facts. It is a situation that he has created.”

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/79470


Another story: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2120102.ece

Draupnir

Rafa: "because when you talk too much about another team that means you are under pressure"

My god, the irony

Chardee MacDennis

Draupnir wrote: »

Rafa: "because when you talk too much about another team that means you are under pressure"

My god, the irony

thought that was funny all right!

Draupnir

I can understand what he is saying though, I think Gill being on the FA board is a terrible conflict of interest, just as I thought the same about Dein being on the FA board.

Mitch Connor

Draupnir wrote: »

I can understand what he is saying though, I think Gill being on the FA board is a terrible conflict of interest, just as I thought the same about Dein being on the FA board.

indeed - does the position have to be filled by a chairman or director of one of the premier league sides? Also, I think the premier league club chairman vote for the position, is that so?

What a petty and bitter little man...... I hope the FA slap him with a fine. You know SAF would get one despite Benitez's claims to the contrary.

I agree with him to a degree but the way he's going about it is out of order. He has the right to question that, but do it with some degree of classy please.

Gill certainly influenced the FA when they banned Evra for 4 games.......

Chardee MacDennis

Deleted User wrote: »

Gill certainly influenced the FA when they banned Evra for 4 games.......

ridiculous comment tbh...

BastardPrince

BastardPrince wrote: »

ridiculous comment tbh...

Exactly. Ridiculous everything tbh. Benitez infers that Gill being there favours United but it hasnt stopped th FA from their usual sh1te when it comes to United so his point is moot.

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

Gill certainly influenced the FA when they banned Evra for 4 games.......

Didn't they just come out and call some of the United staff blatant liars too.

Gill is a crap inside man.

Chardee MacDennis

Deleted User wrote: »

Exactly. Ridiculous everything tbh. Benitez infers that Gill being there favours United but it hasnt stopped th FA from their usual sh1te when it comes to United so his point is moot.

what usual ****e?