EBC Brake pads - any good?

maidhc

Does anyone have EBC "green stuff" brake pads?

Any opinions?

Darragh29

Did once a few years ago after I let someone supply their own parts, do ya want me to continue?!?!?!? :D:D

Back after a week with brake squeel...

Gary ITR

maidhc wrote: »

Does anyone have EBC "green stuff" brake pads?

Any opinions?

I drove a MK2 Golf GTI with them on. Great around a track but a pain in the ring to live with on a daily basis

Darragh29 wrote: »

Did once a few years ago after I let someone supply their own parts, do ya want me to continue?!?!?!? :D:D

Back after a week with brake squeel...

LMAO:p

NiSmO

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Gary ITR

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Well they make a lot of noise and the pedal feels horrible under light braking, a lot of vibration.

JimmyCrackCorn!

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Harder compound set to work better under higher temperatures and heavy breaking.

Harder compounds usually means it can have problems with squeal if used lightly but can be dependent on the pad and how heavy the driver is on the pads. They also may not perform as well at cold(pad dependent).

Lots of different pads with different formulas that suit different levels of abuse.

For a normal road car oem pads are usually fine though.

tu2j2

Better off with something like mintex, ferodo ds's or carbone lorraine.

EBC Green stuff haven't got the best reputation. Have a search on an owners forum for the car your thinking of putting them on and see what the consensus is there.

ianobrien

EBC Green stuff are useless IMO. I've used them on a Civic, took ages to get up to temp and then went off (overheated) fairly quickly (ie after three or four miles of flat out driving)

I've got Ferodo DS2500 on the front of a Mk2 Escort road car (NOT RALLY). They work from cold, but are superb when hot. I've used them for three days in the West Cork Classic Retro and they took that abuse.

If it's a normal road car, with some "spirited driving", change the brake fluid and install OEM discs and pads. That's what I had in the front of a Citroen AX GT and had no problems with 150 miles of a night nav...

groupb

maidhc wrote: »

Does anyone have EBC "green stuff" brake pads?

Any opinions?

I have the standard EBC kevlar pads on my mx5 and they are fine. The green stuff pads are only really suitable for a track , even though they are described as fast road pads. You just can't get them up to temp quick enough. What kind of car are you considering putting them on?

maidhc

Ford Capri MkII 2.0. (which is reasonably modified as it stands)

The Jury still seems to be out on them. Might just stick with a set of Mintex, no point getting OEM, I doubt if they would even have them in stock.

Depending on the responses I was going to get a set for my Focus as well, but that is definately out by all accounts.

Thanks for all the responses.

ianobrien

maidhc wrote: »

Ford Capri MkII 2.0. (which is reasonably modified as it stands)

The Jury still seems to be out on them. Might just stick with a set of Mintex, no point getting OEM, I doubt if they would even have them in stock.

Depending on the responses I was going to get a set for my Focus as well, but that is definately out by all accounts.

Thanks for all the responses.

The callipers are, IIRC, M16 calipers which were used in LOADS of Fords (Escort, Late Cortina, Capri) and were also common with the Kit Car boys. I'm assuming that you're not using something odd, like Granada calipers or Mk1 Capri V6 struts & calipers.

You'll get OEM spec pads on the shelf of any good motor factor for less than 40 euro. Indeed, I got the Ferodo DS pads on the shelf of my local motor factor (and judging by the box, they weren't there too long). If you're in Cork, I'll PM you a list of motor factors that would have them on the shelf, based on my experience of running odd/old cars.

Is the braking system up to spec and not using 30 year old seals etc? I'd change the fluid first and new discs and OEM spec pads, assuming that the calipers & cylinders are good. Then if you get brake fade, change the pads. If you get brake fade with new fluid, discs & pads, what's under the bonnet and what's your fuel consumption like?

Just for comparison, I've just rebuilt the master cylinder and changed the fluid on the Escort. Even though the old fluid was three years old, the difference is amazing. Now, the only thing left on the brake system that's day one is the brake pedal.

As for putting them in the Focus, don't bother. Change the fluid to Castrol Response DOT4. It'll make a major difference with OEM pads.

FYI, when I mean there's a difference, I mean that brake fade is reduced. I not taking about "bite" as much, because in my experience, for best "bite" for normal driving, OEM are best, assuming that the servo's working (check the vacuum hoses for cracks etc and that it's still attached at both ends).

Don't assume that the pads are not working. Check out the rest before blaming the pads.

To increase the "bite", you'll need a bigger pad area, which means a bigger caliper. Just pick up a copy of Classic Ford or Retro Ford in Easons and have a look at the ads for big brakes for Fords!

maidhc

ianobrien wrote: »

The callipers are, IIRC, M16 calipers which were used in LOADS of Fords (Escort, Late Cortina, Capri) and were also common with the Kit Car boys. I'm assuming that you're not using something odd, like Granada calipers or Mk1 Capri V6 struts & calipers.

You'll get OEM spec pads on the shelf of any good motor factor for less than 40 euro. Indeed, I got the Ferodo DS pads on the shelf of my local motor factor (and judging by the box, they weren't there too long). If you're in Cork, I'll PM you a list of motor factors that would have them on the shelf, based on my experience of running odd/old cars.

Is the braking system up to spec and not using 30 year old seals etc? I'd change the fluid first and new discs and OEM spec pads, assuming that the calipers & cylinders are good. Then if you get brake fade, change the pads. If you get brake fade with new fluid, discs & pads, what's under the bonnet and what's your fuel consumption like?

Just for comparison, I've just rebuilt the master cylinder and changed the fluid on the Escort. Even though the old fluid was three years old, the difference is amazing. Now, the only thing left on the brake system that's day one is the brake pedal.

As for putting them in the Focus, don't bother. Change the fluid to Castrol Response DOT4. It'll make a major difference with OEM pads.

FYI, when I mean there's a difference, I mean that brake fade is reduced. I not taking about "bite" as much, because in my experience, for best "bite" for normal driving, OEM are best, assuming that the servo's working (check the vacuum hoses for cracks etc and that it's still attached at both ends).

Don't assume that the pads are not working. Check out the rest before blaming the pads.

To increase the "bite", you'll need a bigger pad area, which means a bigger caliper. Just pick up a copy of Classic Ford or Retro Ford in Easons and have a look at the ads for big brakes for Fords!

Cheers for that. M16 Calipers alright I think with 2.8 vented discs. It got a brand new master cylinder a few years ago, and has all braided hoses. The discs were badly warped, so I have new ones. Also got a set of Apec pads since (not sure what they are like, but seem good enough).

There is nothing much wrong with the brakes really, just the warped discs, but I will take the opportunity to replace the pads and fluid as I am it.

The focus has worn discs, and will do somethingabout it in the next 10k miles, I'll go with OEM I think.