Taylor V Hankey Showdown...

whaaames

I dunno whether its done on purpose but thinkin back it seems like theres a 'showdown' every five years, like taylor barney in 99' and taylor fordham in 04', maybe this year will follow suit and have a taylor hankey shoepiece...that'd be a serious game i'd say...

any takers..???

jwshooter

whaaames wrote: »

I dunno whether its done on purpose but thinkin back it seems like theres a 'showdown' every five years, like taylor barney in 99' and taylor fordham in 04', maybe this year will follow suit and have a taylor hankey shoepiece...that'd be a serious game i'd say...

any takers..???

the count would be home well before day light if he played the power

unknown13

Taylor will not lose to any BDO player and would destroy him.

Did Barney play Taylor when he was in the BDO

Evolution Enter

Can't see the BDO wanting to let that match happen, or why Hankey would want to play??

Hankey would probably put up a game to alot of the PDC throwers, but nobody can put it up to Taylor. Taylor beats him it'll just be another excuse for people to rubbish the BDO

Degag

unknown13 wrote: »

Did Barney play Taylor when he was in the BDO

Yup, beat him fairly comfortably too i think.

RichieLawlor

Degag wrote: »

Yup, beat him fairly comfortably too i think.

21-10 or 21-12 iirc

MBC

Arn't these 2 both from Stoke.........wonder if they get along with each other.

But to answer the Q doubt there will be a show down.

Yerac

And don't forget the cringe-factor that Sid has probably already written "The Power has blown his nose with Hankey" :rolleyes:

Degag

Yerac wrote: »

And don't forget the cringe-factor that Sid has probably already written "The Power has blown his nose with Hankey" :rolleyes:

:pac:
Anyone know what average Hankey threw last night. I heard tony green say he had an average of 98 at one stage but that could have been the first 9:rolleyes:

Kingp35

Degag wrote: »

:pac:
Anyone know what average Hankey threw last night. I heard tony green say he had an average of 98 at one stage but that could have been the first 9:rolleyes:

Not sure what his end average was but about half way through he was averaging just over 92.

Yerac

The BDO site gives Hankey's average as about 91,92.

http://www.bdodarts.com/Lakeside2009day9.htm
http://www.bdodarts.com/World%20Pro/2009/MatchStats/Ted-Tony.pdf

nhughes100

Only chance of this happening is if Hankey throws in the Grand Slam and he draws Taylor.

Degag

MBC wrote: »

Arn't these 2 both from Stoke.........wonder if they get along with each other.

But to answer the Q doubt there will be a show down.

I think hankey is from stockport.

ReacherCreature

Degag wrote: »

I think hankey is from stockport.

Stoke-On-Trent, England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Hankey

premierstone

Degag wrote: »

I think hankey is from stockport.

Tony o Shea is from stockport, Hankey is from Stoke

Kingp35

I actually think that a showdown is a very good idea for the simple reason is that will bring much needed publicity to the sport and may make more people become fans of the sport. The last two times there was a show down there were writeups in all of the papers about it and there were very big viewing figures because of the publicity it got. This can only be good for the sport.

Yes we all know that Taylor will probably win fairly easily but if the night had three matches it could be a very good night of darts.

They should hold it in Stoke because both Taylor and Hankey are from there. They could have a lineup as follows:

Lewis v Hamilton
Dobromyslova V Bristow (Undercard)
Hankey V Taylor (Main Event)

I think this would be a good night of darts and generate lots of publicity. Bristow has already agreed to take on Dobromyslova after she challenged him to a once off game because he was slagging her so much. Many people would be interested in that match, Lewis and Hamilton would be a great exhibition match from two Stoke Boys and then the main event between Taylor and Hankey.

What do you lot think?

leggo

Love the idea and that card would be something they could even do on Box Office, but as someone already said the BDO will not let their World Champion take a pounding off Taylor. He would be immensely exposed and it would shatter people's image of them long-term. At least Barney and Fordham had the darts to not make absolute shows of themselves...Hankey notsomuch.

Evolution Enter

If they did it with last years PDC champ in John Part, it could be a good match. But Taylor makes the rest of the PDC look average despite mid 90's to tonne plus averages.

Love the card, sounds like a brilliant showpiece for the sport. But could you imagine if Taylor whitewashed Kankey and Bristow beat Anastasia, it'd make a joke of both the BDO and the women's game. The type of publicity that could really backfire

Kingp35

Evolution Enter wrote: »

Love the card, sounds like a brilliant showpiece for the sport. But could you imagine if Taylor whitewashed Kankey and Bristow beat Anastasia, it'd make a joke of both the BDO and the women's game. The type of publicity that could really backfire

Having watched Bristow throwing in the League of Legends I don't think that would happen! It was fairly embarrassing for him at times, he has totally lost it. I think Ana would beat him.

nhughes100

I don't think Bristow slagged of Anastasia, he stated a few facts, ie she hadn't earned her right to be there, if she was a male from Russia she wouldn't have been there. Bristow said during the worlds that if 5 women qualify by right to get there then fantastic but she only got a wildcard due to her gender and not her ability.

whaaames

Kingp35 wrote: »

I actually think that a showdown is a very good idea for the simple reason is that will bring much needed publicity to the sport and may make more people become fans of the sport. The last two times there was a show down there were writeups in all of the papers about it and there were very big viewing figures because of the publicity it got. This can only be good for the sport.

Yes we all know that Taylor will probably win fairly easily but if the night had three matches it could be a very good night of darts.

They should hold it in Stoke because both Taylor and Hankey are from there. They could have a lineup as follows:

Lewis v Hamilton
Dobromyslova V Bristow (Undercard)
Hankey V Taylor (Main Event)

I think this would be a good night of darts and generate lots of publicity. Bristow has already agreed to take on Dobromyslova after she challenged him to a once off game because he was slagging her so much. Many people would be interested in that match, Lewis and Hamilton would be a great exhibition match from two Stoke Boys and then the main event between Taylor and Hankey.

What do you lot think?

This is what i was talking about, remember the taylor fordham showdown, bristow played john lowe, and then wayne mardle played roland scholten before the main event, was a great night of darts. I agree taylor would win fairly convincingy, maybe 7 sets to 2 if hankey was lucky but i can't honestly see why hankey wouldn't want it, it'd be a serious money spinner, be great for ted to play on sky (i'm assuming it'd be on sky since the last one was) and be brillaint for darts,..plus i'd say they know each other well enough being 2 stokeys...

Plus i love the idea of a Dristow Dobromyslova undercard, the hype around that would be gas,..

Degag

Think it could be better for ted if they ran it on Legs instead of sets... Taylor could easily beat him 7-0 on sets but hankey would definately win a few legs... 27-12 would be better than 7-0 for example.

premierstone

Degag wrote: »

Think it could be better for ted if they ran it on Legs instead of sets... Taylor could easily beat him 7-0 on sets but hankey would definately win a few legs... 27-12 would be better than 7-0 for example.

?? Best of 53 ?? Only jokin yeah I would imagine if it were to take place this is how it would be done

ArmaniJeanss

Evolution Enter wrote: »

If they did it with last years PDC champ in John Part, it could be a good match. But Taylor makes the rest of the PDC look average despite mid 90's to tonne plus averages.

Most of them only get those averages against Taylor though.
Its relatively easy to have a high 90s average if Taylor is relentessly putting in 15 dart legs and therefore you are not getting to throw at a lot of doubles.
e.g.,
Taylor finishes in 15 in all the legs he throws first. You score 100, 100, 85, 97.
You've havent done anything sensational but have an average of 95.5 in those legs and Waddell talking rubbish about how your average would be winning most games.

premierstone

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Most of them only get those averages against Taylor though.
Its relatively easy to have a high 90s average if Taylor is relentessly putting in 15 dart legs and therefore you are not getting to throw at a lot of doubles.
e.g.,
Taylor finishes in 15 in all the legs he throws first. You score 100, 100, 85, 97.
You've havent done anything sensational but have an average of 95.5 in those legs and Waddell talking rubbish about how your average would be winning most games.

What :eek: he never, does he

Kingp35

Yeah it's very easy to have a higher average than you usually would in a match that you are getting hammered in. It's the close matches or the matches that you win that is a true reflection of your average.

cooker3

As much as I don't rate the BDO all that much. I actually think on his day Hankey is a pretty good player. I recall him playing very well when he won first time around in 2000.
If he was playing well I think the match would be respectable although Taylor still wins 99% of the time. I regard him as far better then Andy Fordham ever was. As for why he would do it, money of course. He would be guaranteed a decent payday for a 1 off match and gets lot of publicity so would likely garner sponsorship. Why wouldn't he do it?

ReacherCreature

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Stoke-On-Trent, England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Hankey

That's where he's from but he's based in Telford, Shropshire now.

Though I'd fancy ted against many in the PDC, think Taylor would beat him alright, so unless there was a lot of money in it for him I don't see why Hankey would bother. I'm not sure Sky would be an attraction seeing as he plays to far bigger audiences on BBC. Plus the heat, the lights, the pressure, the beered up crowd roaring, he'd go bananas. Wonder will he play the grand slam later in the year though?

whaaames

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not sure Sky would be an attraction seeing as he plays to far bigger audiences on BBC. Plus the heat, the lights, the pressure, the beered up crowd roaring, he'd go bananas. Wonder will he play the grand slam later in the year though?

Thats a fair comment, considering in the final last sunday he went ape when a legitimate photographer took a picture,..

But lets be honest, darts isn't golf or snooker which demands absoltue silence, darts is about the atmosphere and the buzz and the fact that fans can go and get beered up and have a laugh,..

But i still think it'd be great to have it, but the idea of a matchplay game would make it a bit more respectable, best of 41 legs; i'd see taylor winning 21 - 10/11 but suppose it's bette than 7 - 0/1.
I'd say tho that both the bdo and andy fordham went into the showdown 5 year ago knowing that taylor was gonna win easily and convincingly but it still happened and it was great watching (for a while)...

Rented Mule

Kingp35 wrote: »

Having watched Bristow throwing in the League of Legends I don't think that would happen! It was fairly embarrassing for him at times, he has totally lost it. I think Ana would beat him.

I watched him last night from the 1997 semi-finals at Purfleet against and he was very average back then (and this was considered his comeback). I think he was averaging 83 points per round (although he did average 89 against Taylor in the semis).

I don't think he would want to throw his name into a major tourney that he wasn't going to have a good showing in.

Kingp35

Rented Mule wrote: »

I don't think he would want to throw his name into a major tourney that he wasn't going to have a good showing in.

Well he has already agreed to play Ana in a once off €10,000 game, it's just a matter of where and when it's going to be played.

As for League of Legends he was very poor. In fairness though he suffered from the dreaded D disease and it's pretty sad seeing of the legends of the sport unable to play anymore.

Degag

Any idea what he averaged in games on the League of Legends?

Evolution Enter

It wasn't great whatever it was. He finished dead last and when the likes of Deller finish way above Bristow you know there is something wrong.

Actually, Deller came across as a complete ass in that tournament

Whiskey Devil

Stoke v Stoke

7-0 Taylor :pac:

Giant Reed

wrote:

It wasn't great whatever it was. He finished dead last and when the likes of Deller finish way above Bristow you know there is something wrong.

Actually, Deller came across as a complete ass in that tournament

Missed most of this, why, what did he do??

Degag

A showdown was aluded to during the Painter/ Wade match... I missed some of what was said but from what i could understand, it sounded like Taylor has made the challenge:eek: I may have picked it up wrong but the commentators seemed confidant that something would happen.

Yerac

The gist of what I took from it was that they were wondering whether Hankey would take up his invite to the Grand Slam, taking a bit of a pop at Adams for not accepting his. They went on to mention a Champion vs Champion match and the way I heard it was Hankey was pushing for it.

whaaames

BDO champ Ted ‘The Count’ Hankey wants a showdown with his opposite number from the rival PDC. Hankey, a big fan of Count Dracula and horror films, splashed out £2,000 on a second-hand funeral hearse yesterday to ferry the Prince of Dartness around in style.

Hankey declared: "For some reason Taylor is running away and does not seem keen on facing me. "He’s scared, he must have seen me hit 42 180s on my way to the world title and perhaps that’s frightened him".
"Phil’s not big on his maximums, he knows that I have the game to beat him.
"I have even bought a new car which we can put him in the back of once I have finished with him. I love the car. I am going to get it customised and maybe even put a coffin in the back".
"I’ll drive it everywhere, to exhibitions and tournaments".

Initial talks are underway to stage a mouth-watering match - the best of 13 sets - to decide the undisputed king of tungsten.

Hankey insists he will play Taylor any place, anywhere and any time - well almost, as long as it is after sunset.


Just read this on the net and i have to say it's the biggest load of pony i've ever read, imagine hankey sayin' he's gonna do anything after beating taylor, never...i know it's all hype and mind games but if he thinks this is the way to knock phil off his game i reckon he's sorely mistaken...

i hope this happens now coz as much as i'd love it to be an epic i still think it's taylor 7-1/2 with a 102 average...

Evolution Enter

Really?? I enjoyed watchingthis years BDO final but I reckon Taylor would hammer him 7-0

Happily put a tonne on it

Kingp35

Yeah it would no doudt be a hammering for Hankey, that article reads like Hankey is looking for a payday and just to promote himself. Nothing wrong with that and I would love to see them play but it would be a walk over for Taylor. Hankey's early 90's average just isn't good enough.

iseethelight

If Hankey plays it'll be for the money(nothing wrong with that).I think Fordham got 50,000 just for showing up.

Might I suggest O'Shea v Barney - battle of 2nd place
Fitton V Lewis for the undercard

whaaames

of coarse hankey wants it, he'd be mad not to want it, a crazy amount of money for one darts game that chances are he'll never get to play in again, and even if he does get destroyed sure thats exactly what everyone expects to happen anyway so theres no real loss for him

plus it'll give him more exposure and all that so why not...

i'd easily put a €250 on taylor winning, free money

Degag

whaaames wrote: »

of coarse hankey wants it, he'd be mad not to want it, a crazy amount of money for one darts game that chances are he'll never get to play in again, and even if he does get destroyed sure thats exactly what everyone expects to happen anyway so theres no real loss for him

plus it'll give him more exposure and all that so why not...

i'd easily put a €250 on taylor winning, free money

You'd get no odds for it though unless you pick the correct score of course. I don't think that it would be a whitewash... maybe 7-2 or 7-3 to taylor...

Anyone have any idea who commentated on the previous champion v champion matches?

whaaames

cant remember exactly but i know sid and dave lanning were on that night, probably john gwynne but considering it was on sky probably the usual heads, not 100% on that though...

Degag

whaaames wrote: »

cant remember exactly but i know sid and dave lanning were on that night, probably john gwynne but considering it was on sky probably the usual heads, not 100% on that though...

I was just wondering if it was a joint venture... ie. if you had tony green and sid commentating together and russ brawn and the fat "lets play darts" guy alternating announcing or something....

Kingp35

Degag wrote: »

I was just wondering if it was a joint venture... ie. if you had tony green and sid commentating together and russ brawn and the fat "lets play darts" guy alternating announcing or something....

No it was just the Sky Sports lads because it was a Pay Per View event on Sky Box Office,

Jaysoose

Kingp35 wrote: »

No it was just the Sky Sports lads because it was a Pay Per View event on Sky Box Office,

Jaysus could you imagine sky trying to market this mismatch on box office? considering we get to see Taylor stuffing better players than hankey on a regular basis for the basic subscription fee.

Betya the new darts converts will see the adverts and ask "ted who?"

Evolution Enter

Jesus, I never miss televised darts but there is no way I'd pay to see that, maybe if they forced Taylor to throw left handed

Carrickman

Evolution Enter wrote: »

Jesus, I never miss televised darts but there is no way I'd pay to see that, maybe if they forced Taylor to throw left handed

He would also have to play 1001 double start to make it fair;)

whaaames

they're better off not having it on box office, just on sky sports 1 would be best, they'd get more viewers by a mile and if they had it on a sunday they'd get the ratings they normally dont have...

Whyno

Hankey is not in the same league as taylor. Anyone that says different must have their heads up der holes.
Come on its a 7-0 or a very lucky 7-1 for the power.
As for backing taylor to win in this you might get 1/2 with -5.5 games.
1/20 to win straight.