Merseyside derby super duper double bill mega thread..

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DSB wrote: »

You're aware these two statements COMPLETELY contradict each other right? You'd argue anything.

not trying to argue anything
I didnt mean to contradict myself

im not david Gill but from the out side it looks like he's going

Nani cost 14 -18 million (i think he's crap) but to kind of defend him he's still young

liverpool bought a 28 yr old

im finished with talking about united here
sorry x in the city

DSB

Mr Alan wrote: »

15m on a unproven in the league, 22 year old aint a big money signing? :rolleyes:

He wasn't 22. He was 22 recently. He has been at United a good while.

Bluetonic

Lads take the Man U/Liverpool related ****e out of the thread.

There are certainly enough places to go aside from here.

Mr Alan

see, the everton fans are getting annoyed,you're stealing their limelight! they get to bask in the glow of their more successful footballing neighbour-this is the one time of the year they feel important

DSB

Bluetonic wrote: »

Lads take the Man U/Liverpool related ****e out of the thread.

There are certainly enough places to go aside from here.

I feel homeless:(

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DSB wrote: »

I feel homeless:(

DSB that was a quick lock wasn't it

but back on topic

any fit strikers for everton???

Bluetonic

Mr Alan wrote: »

see, the everton fans are getting tasty, this is the one time of the year they feel important

To be honest the majority of the us have our minds on our on going public inquiry of late, much more important than the two upcoming derbys.

Still, looking forward to the Tesco bags being waved, how original :rolleyes:

mayordenis

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

any fit strikers for everton???

Vaughn, Saha and Yakuba are all out as far as I know. Anichebe maybe?

Bluetonic

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

but back on topic

any fit strikers for everton???

None to talk about. One officially semi fit being Victor Anichebe.

4-6-0 has been suiting Everton well since mid December. With Fellaini suspended and other midfielders thin on the ground I would welcome another goalkeeper to partner Howard in light of DSBs proclamation that Everton are going to get stuffed.

delspeed78

mayordenis wrote: »

Vaughn, Saha and Yakuba are all out as far as I know. Anichebe maybe?

Its looking that way, with Cahill behind.

Iang87

i'm a liverpool fan and couldn't help but notice that Bluetonic put pictures up and called them recent memories, pretty classy move so i think i'll make a classy one to counteract it.

On one of the pictures you showed Anfield and Goodison close by so you could prob walk that, so print that picture use it as a map, find your way to Anfield, pay the 8 quid to get into the museum, go upstairs and when your there those silver things that are there are called trophies. You get them from winning competitions. That normally means being the last side in the competition, just so you know.

So bring your camera, take some pictures then show them to other everton fans, maybe someday ye'll have won some more of ye're own to show off.

As for next week i fancy us in the league and anything could happen in the cup

citytillidie

Bluetonic wrote: »

Recent memories...







Liverpool fans welcome Phil


Everton fans congratulate Steven on the birth of his child


...and for those who don't realise it.


...finally

some more from the very recent past

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citytillidie wrote: »

some more from the very recent past

is he still alive

citytillidie

who knows

x in the city

Everton have an easy win monday night, good old lescott and cahill.

raffa will be too consumed with niff naffing with sir alex ferguson to concentrate on the games coming up and fall into the mind game trap alex specialises in, thus ending their title challenge...........again

zing

With Everton having such limited striking options available there's going to be one hell of a packed midfield on the pitch.

If Alonso & Arbeloa are both fit I reckon we'll go back to a fairly familiar lineup - something along the lines of:
.............. Torres/Keane ..............
Reira .......... Gerrard ........... Kuyt
............. Masch .... Xabi ..............
Aurelio .. Skrtel .. Carra .. Arbeloa
.................... Reina .....................

Torres has said he's not 100% match fit in recent days so I'd expect to see Keane starting and coming off around the usual point in the game. Would be disappointed to see Kuyt up front again - he's been playing well on the right and imo that's where he should stay for now.

Nuri Sahin

zing wrote: »

With Everton having such limited striking options available there's going to be one hell of a packed midfield on the pitch.

If Alonso & Arbeloa are both fit I reckon we'll go back to a fairly familiar lineup - something along the lines of:
.............. Torres/Keane ..............
Reira .......... Gerrard ........... Kuyt
............. Masch .... Xabi ..............
Aurelio .. Skrtel .. Carra .. Arbeloa
.................... Reina .....................

Torres has said he's not 100% match fit in recent days so I'd expect to see Keane starting and coming off around the usual point in the game. Would be disappointed to see Kuyt up front again - he's been playing well on the right and imo that's where he should stay for now.

Up front and whether it will be Skrtel/Agger/Hypia playing alongside Carra are the only question marks for sure.

Like yourself Kuyt has to surely be back on the right. Haven't seen Everton much this season(who would want to ).

But it's Arteta playing in off the left still is it? If it is, Kuyt will be have to keep Areteta quiet and if we can reduce Cahill's involvement I'm confident as one can be going into a local derby.

Frisbee

I reckon Liverpool will take the League game handy enough.
But I fancy Everton for the Cup game.

Fellaini being out is a big blow for Everton, although Moyes probably shouldn't have risked him in the second half on the weekend considering the amount of warnings the ref had given him.
Evertone will really have to rely on Cahill and Arteta to produce something.
Without Yobo Everton don't look anywhere near as solid.

Nuri Sahin

Frisbee wrote: »

I reckon Liverpool will take the League game handy enough.
But I fancy Everton for the Cup game.

Fellaini being out is a big blow for Everton, although Moyes probably shouldn't have risked him in the second half on the weekend considering the amount of warnings the ref had given him.
Evertone will really have to rely on Cahill and Arteta to produce something.
Without Yobo Everton don't look anywhere near as solid.

Yeah I think it will funnily enough go that way as well. Bad gut feeling and all that.

ScreechFellaini out for both games is a massive blow. I was at the Liege game and the guy was a one man machine setting up attacks and breaking up our play. My MOTM over both legs in fact.

Bluetonic

Bluetonic

Adnan Alves wrote: »

But it's Arteta playing in off the left still is it?

Most knowledgeable fans in the world etc...,

No.

Bluetonic

Frisbee wrote: »

Without Yobo Everton don't look anywhere near as solid.

Yeah 4 games played since he is out injured, no goals conceded :rolleyes:

SectionF

x in the city wrote: »

Ok folks

All necessary slagging here.....

Happy to oblige

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU

SWAR

BUMP.

Looking for a good reaction from the Pool tonight and quite frankly I think we'll get it. For some reason I can't see anything but a Liverpool win (don't ask me why), with Torres getting another two goals against them.

...................Torres..............
Reira .......... Gerrard ........... Kuyt
............. Masch .... Xabi .............
Aurelio .. Skrtel .. Carra .. Arbeloa
.................... Reina ...................

Just as an aside, am I the only one that thinks Daniel Agger would make a good full back, got pace, good with the ball at his feet and is well able to beat players.

GuanYin

Liverpool should win this quite easily. But then again, they've staggered here and there. I think 1-1

Highsider

Could'nt give a hoot about the cup this year. Tonight's game is all that matters and to be perfectly honest i expect nothing but three points to go back top of the table.

Dubliner28

Sticking out to be 0-0 i think.
Everton are due a result at Anfield.
Arteta will need to have a big game..

kida

Dubliner28 wrote: »

Sticking out to be 0-0 i think.
Everton are due a result at Anfield.
Arteta will need to have a big game..

yep -0-0 written all over it

spockety

kida wrote: »

yep -0-0 written all over it

Care to back that up? Liverpool have scored 10 in the last 4, and Everton have scored 7 in the last 4. Doesn't look like either team is in 0-0 form.

Dubliner28

Everton have not conceeded in ages.
Liverpool tend to have problems beating teams who defend well.
Everton have no strikers.
Liverpool depend on 2 players to get them going.

Thats why Im going with a draw

kingshankly

spockety wrote: »

Care to back that up? Liverpool have scored 10 in the last 4, and Everton have scored 7 in the last 4. Doesn't look like either team is in 0-0 form.

liverpool have conceded 1 goal in there last 4 everton have conceded none

zing

Don't think it'll be scoreless but then again I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it was. Going with a home win.

Some useless derby stats:
There's only been the one 0-0 between Rafa/Moyes in the league to date

Might be worth starting with Keane after all - he's apparently scored more goals against Everton under Moyes than any other PL player (6 - including a HT).

Everton haven't won the 'return' derby since 88 and haven't won the same at Anfield since 86.

Hasn't been a HT in a derby since Rush in 82 and Liverpool haven't conceded one at Anfield since '35.

22 sendings off to date - most recent at Goodison being Cahill while most recent at Anfield was Gerrard 2 or 3 years back. However Gerrard & Neville are the only 2 players to have been sent off twice in derbys.

Those stats from: http://www.evertonfc.com/match/report/0809/34202/liverpool-v-everton.html?t=1
(popped up on newsnow a couple of days ago).

kida

spockety wrote: »

Care to back that up? Liverpool have scored 10 in the last 4, and Everton have scored 7 in the last 4. Doesn't look like either team is in 0-0 form.

Everton have no attackers - likely to sit back. Pool have struggled when teams have done this.

zing

kida wrote: »

Everton have no attackers - likely to sit back. Pool have struggled when teams have done this.

Think it's more a case of struggling against teams that have largely park the bus and I certainly don't expect Everton to do that - there's that bit more to play for here than 1 or 3 points. I'd love an open game tonight.

Torres should be back so even if it is wedged at the back hopefully he'll find his way through

Dubliner28

Stats are mean nothing in Derbys

zing wrote: »

Don't think it'll be scoreless but then again I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it was. Going with a home win.

Some useless derby stats:
There's only been the one 0-0 between Rafa/Moyes in the league to date

Might be worth starting with Keane after all - he's apparently scored more goals against Everton under Moyes than any other PL player (6 - including a HT).

Everton haven't won the 'return' derby since 88 and haven't won the same at Anfield since 86.

Hasn't been a HT in a derby since Rush in 82 and Liverpool haven't conceded one at Anfield since '35.

22 sendings off to date - most recent at Goodison being Cahill while most recent at Anfield was Gerrard 2 or 3 years back. However Gerrard & Neville are the only 2 players to have been sent off twice in derbys.

Those stats from: http://www.evertonfc.com/match/report/0809/34202/liverpool-v-everton.html?t=1
(popped up on newsnow a couple of days ago).

zing

That's why I referred to them as useless derby stats. They're somewhat interesting but largely meaningless

Bluetonic

kida wrote: »

Everton have no attackers - likely to sit back. Pool have struggled when teams have done this.

Seen a lot of Everton play lately so :rolleyes:

Dubliner28

He must not be as we are one of the form sides
Tim has been playing excellent up front on his own in the past few games,
Hope he starts up front but i think DM will bring in Vic to play up front and Timn in the midfield.

Bluetonic

Dubliner28 wrote: »

He must not be as we are one of the form sides
Tim has been playing excellent up front on his own in the past few games,
Hope he starts up front but i think DM will bring in Vic to play up front and Timn in the midfield.

Don't be too surprised if we see Yobo back (he's back training) in CD with Jagielka in the holding role.

Dubliner28

Yes knowing Moyes he will bring him back..If so like you said holding role.
Need to keep Jags on Torres if he starts IMO.
Dont trust anyone else

Frankie Lee

How I guess the teams will line up:

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Reina

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Carragher--skrtel

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hyppia---insua-

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alonso/lucas---Mascheranp

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Benayoun

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Gerrard

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Riera---

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Kuyt

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Howard

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hibbert----jagielka

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lescott---baines

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neville

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Osman

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arteta

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pienaar

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cahill

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anichebe

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I reckon it will be a 1 all draw, with some controversial decisions costing everton a much deserved win.

deadhead13

Kuyt won't be playing upfront by himself again, at least I f**ken hope not.

Dubliner28

Argee with that Everton team.

Hopefully the ref wont ruin the game as in past games.

Draw or an Everton win(1-0)

astrofool

Can't see past a Liverpool win for this one, if they do, it'll be by a couple of goals.

Everton will need a lot of luck to get something from this game.

Bluetonic

astrofool wrote: »

Everton will need a lot of luck to get something from this game.

Why?

Latchy

Liverpool to win tonight .A draw in the cup game .

spockety

Frankie Lee wrote: »

How I guess the teams will line up:

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Reina

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Carragher--skrtel

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hyppia---insua-

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alonso/lucas---Mascheranp

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Benayoun

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Gerrard

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Riera---

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Kuyt

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If Torres doesn't start tonight, I will eat the nearest available hat.

Bluetonic

spockety wrote: »

If Torres doesn't start tonight, I will eat the nearest available hat.

Time to put this baby on standby.

Nuri Sahin

So long as Kuyt doesn't start up front on his own I'm confident.

Too be honest I wouldn't be utterly suprised with Torres on the bench and Keane starting. Torres did nothing until his two goal blitz at Woodison earlier in the season so if he comes on saw at Rafa time 60-70minute, the game will be stretched and he'll work his magic.

Bit afraid in truth as with all derbies espically the Merseyside one which is notorious with red cards that Torres will get kicked around by the likes of utterly below average Hibbert and so on.

Latchy

Hope the rain holds of for tonights game .Save the rain and the mud for the FA cup game instead .