iPhone 3G - Vodafone 'Pay as you go' internet

CyberDave

Is it possible to have internet on an unlocked iPhone 3G when I am on Vodafone 'Pay as You Go'? If it is, how do I go about doing it? Thanks.

Tom Dunne

I don't understand your question.

Are you asking of Vodafone provide a 3G service on PAYG?

CyberDave

Yeah, exactly?

Tom Dunne

CyberDave wrote: »

Yeah, exactly?

Well, after an extensive search of the vodafone.ie webstite, I came across this:

http://www.vodafone.ie/vlive/internetmobile/#how-much-does-it-cost

CyberDave

Cheers. I guess I should have searched Vodafone first. Thanks for the replies.

Eoin Macollamh

CyberDave wrote: »

Cheers. I guess I should have searched Vodafone first. Thanks for the replies.

Hang on, it's a lot more complicated than that.

An unlocked iPhone cannot, without further modification, access the Vodafone Live portal which is what the quoted prices are for. It can only access isp.vodafone.ie which charges €0.19 per MB of traffic with no €0.99 daily ceiling.

In order to use Vodafone Live and avail of the cheaper rates, you apparently need to download the TZones Hack and replace the proxy.pac file in /var/preferences on the phone. I say "apparently" because I haven't been able to get it to work. Even then you only have service limited to a couple of ports.

So using an iPhone on Vodafone, assuming you can get it to work, involves either greater expense or greater limitation.

Tom Dunne

Eoin Macollamh wrote: »

In order to use Vodafone Live and avail of the cheaper rates, you apparently need to download the TZones Hack and replace the proxy.pac file in /var/preferences on the phone.

How come this is the case? Is it not a matter of just entering the conneciton details?

CyberDave

Eoin Macollamh wrote: »

Hang on, it's a lot more complicated than that.

An unlocked iPhone cannot, without further modification, access the Vodafone Live portal which is what the quoted prices are for. It can only access isp.vodafone.ie which charges €0.19 per MB of traffic with no €0.99 daily ceiling.

In order to use Vodafone Live and avail of the cheaper rates, you apparently need to download the TZones Hack and replace the proxy.pac file in /var/preferences on the phone. I say "apparently" because I haven't been able to get it to work. Even then you only have service limited to a couple of ports.

So using an iPhone on Vodafone, assuming you can get it to work, involves either greater expense or greater limitation.

Great. I might have to consider switching to O2 if that's the case.

Eoin Macollamh

Tom Dunne wrote: »

How come this is the case? Is it not a matter of just entering the conneciton details?

I believe you need the appropriate proxy settings loaded into the proxy.pac file as well as a change to some other preferences. But someone like coadyj will have a better idea.

I can confirm, however, that just entering the APN details doesn't work.

MrVestek

Tom Dunne wrote: »

How come this is the case? Is it not a matter of just entering the conneciton details?

No it's not. Why? Exclusivity contracts. Apple have made it this difficult on purpose.

Tom Dunne

Achilles wrote: »

No it's not. Why? Exclusivity contracts. Apple have made it this difficult on purpose.

But surely exclusivity contracts are out the Window when you unlock an iphone?

MrVestek

Tom Dunne wrote: »

But surely exclusivity contracts are out the Window when you unlock an iphone?

Not really, You're not supposed to be able to unlock it in the first place.

mobius42

You can change the APN settings in the network section of the general settings.

Eoin Macollamh

mobius42 wrote: »

You can change the APN settings in the network section of the general settings.

Yes, you can. And if you change it to live.vodafone.ie with User and Password set to "dublin" you will find that it doesn't work. You need a workaround.

CyberDave

So is there a final answer as to what the APN settings should be? isp.vodafone.ie or live.vodafone.ie and which username and password? Thanks.

Random

Settings: http://www.powermyphone.com/gprsmms.php#vodafone

WAP / Live

connection name:Vf Live!
data bearer: packet data
APN:live.vodafone.com
username:dublin
prompt password:no
password:dublin
authentication:normal
homepage:http://live.vodafone.com
network type:IPv4
phone IP address:automatic
name servers (DNS): automatic
proxy address:010.024.059.100
proxy port:80


ISP

connection name:Vf ISP
data bearer: packet data
APN:isp.vodafone.ie
username:vodafone
prompt password:no
password:vodafone
authentication:normal
homepage:http://www.vodafone.ie
network type:IPv4
phone IP address:automatic
name servers (DNS): automatic
proxy address:none
proxy port:0

Fill in as applicable on your device.

Pricing: http://www.powermyphone.com/datapricing.php#vodafone

CyberDave

Are these the VPN settings?

CyberDave

Random wrote: »

Settings: http://www.powermyphone.com/gprsmms.php#vodafone

WAP / Live

connection name:Vf Live!
data bearer: packet data
APN:live.vodafone.com
username:dublin
prompt password:no
password:dublin
authentication:normal
homepage:http://live.vodafone.com
network type:IPv4
phone IP address:automatic
name servers (DNS): automatic
proxy address:010.024.059.100
proxy port:80


ISP

connection name:Vf ISP
data bearer: packet data
APN:isp.vodafone.ie
username:vodafone
prompt password:no
password:vodafone
authentication:normal
homepage:http://www.vodafone.ie
network type:IPv4
phone IP address:automatic
name servers (DNS): automatic
proxy address:none
proxy port:0

Fill in as applicable on your device.

Pricing: http://www.powermyphone.com/datapricing.php#vodafone

Where do you input all these details on the iPhone?

Random

Try this ?

mobius42 wrote:

You can change the APN settings in the network section of the general settings.

CyberDave

Random wrote: »

Try this ?

Which are the correct APN settings to use for Vodafone Live?

Random

This

Random wrote:

WAP / Live

connection name:Vf Live!
data bearer: packet data
APN:live.vodafone.com
username:dublin
prompt password:no
password:dublin
authentication:normal
homepage:http://live.vodafone.com
network type:IPv4
phone IP address:automatic
name servers (DNS): automatic
proxy address:010.024.059.100
proxy port:80

CyberDave

So,
APN: live.vodafone.com
Username: dublin
Password: dublin

Sam Vimes

if you want to use live on the iPhone it's not as simple as that. As was said on the previous page you need to enter the proxy details in a file called proxy.pac. I never looked into it much myself but the instructions were given on this forum at some stage. Try searching for proxy.pac

Sam Vimes

if you don't want to go to all that hassle you can use isp.vodafone.ie with username and password as vodafone because it doesn't need a proxy.

The differences between it and live are more things work on isp because live has some ports blocked and some other drawbacks and isp costs 19c per mb where live is capped at 99c per day. Those prices are for pre pay, i can't remember now if it's the same on bill but i'll look it up

Sam Vimes

isp.vodafone.ie isn't 19c per mb on bill pay, it's 2c per kb but you can buy an add on to bring the price down.

on both pre pay and bill, live is 2c per kb up to 99c and then capped until you reach 50mb, then it goes back to 2c per kb. but again, on bill pay you can buy an add on

Linku

Got this text from Vodafone today (wonder if they checked who is using an iPhone);

Got and iPhone? Connect to the internet on the go for 19c per MB with Vodafone's ISP rate. See http://www.vodafone.ie/vlive/internetmobile/iphone

I followed the directions on the site (APN: isp.vodafone.ie, username/password: vodafone) but it doesn't seem to work

failsafe

Do you get an error message?

menuisier

ive tried editing the proxy file information using info from the two below sources with no luck

http://www-boris.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-setup-iphone-for-vodafine-live.html

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55210443

so is anyone using the vodafone live portal on a prepay iphone at the moment?

Victor McDade

Linku wrote: »

Got this text from Vodafone today (wonder if they checked who is using an iPhone);



I followed the directions on the site (APN: isp.vodafone.ie, username/password: vodafone) but it doesn't seem to work

This worked ok for me just now on a 2G iPhone, maybe try it again? Expensive though, be warned!

nitromaster

So is it possible or not to use the live apn with an iphone, even after doing some editing of proxy.pac/etc?

The mobile internet page on vodafone.ie lists wap.vodafone.ie as an older option for the same 99c a day, does this work? (even though it'd be insanely slow im guessing)
Thanks