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kissing a guy = kissing a girl?

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    #32
    Nevyn
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    nouggatti wrote: »
    I'd consider it cheating regardless of the gender of the person.

    and you are entitled to in terms of your relationships, completely.


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    #33
    ntlbell
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    square_igloo wrote: »
    :rolleyes:
    Referring to people who are bicurious as socially/emotionally retarded teenagers is pretty offensive, although I guess it's not as offensive as it is mindnumbingly stupid and ignorant.

    No one is "bi-curious" your homosexual, straight or bisexual (some people won't even give you the last one)

    It's not a sexual orientation if it wasn't for the fecking internet no one would be even using the word!


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    #34
    Snowie
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    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Just because you are bi courous or even bisexual and in a relationship with a person of one gender
    that does not mean you won't find people of the other gender attractive.

    It does how ever mean that you do not act on it in a way which breaks
    the terms of your relationship and if you find those terms to be too restrictive
    then you should break up and them move on.

    As for what ever arrangements or agreements people have with in the terms of their relationships
    that is between them and of no concern of anyone else unless it effects the directly.


    I do know what bisexuality is...

    My own personal opinion is not going to be spoken on this one,
    but i left that post open to see how shellyboos logic worked she didnt reply you did.........

    My point being if i had gf and she decied that infact she was bi, and she wanted to kiss other girls.

    I'd
    A, say well if you can kiss other girls, so does that mean I can?. If she said no i wouldnt agree simply because why she she go kissing other girls and i cant ? ( Bi sexual partner goes from exclusive to none eclusive...)
    B , I's see no point continuing in the reletionship as whast the point she's aloud to get what she wants yet ive got to sit back granted there could be rewards but as we all no that can turn against you.....


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    #35
    Mr. Frost
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    ntlbell wrote: »
    No one is "bi-curious" your homosexual, straight or bisexual (some people won't even give you the last one)

    It's not a sexual orientation if it wasn't for the fecking internet no one would be even using the word!

    Of course people are bi-curious - I knew someone who wanted the experience of being with a same sex partner and maybe see if in fact they were bisexual, but promptly turned their back on the idea afterwards.


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    #36
    Stheno
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    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    I think Shelly's point is that it's not cheating if both partners consent to it.

    Duh sorry, bit of a slow brain day here today :D

    If both partners consent to it, then it's fine, I read it as being non consensual on the part of the other partner.

    Apologies :)


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    #37
    ntlbell
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    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    Of course people are bi-curious - I knew someone who wanted the experience of being with a same sex partner and maybe see if in fact they were bisexual, but promptly turned their back on the idea afterwards.

    That wasn't someone who was bi-curious....that's just someone who's confused.

    I was going to buy a BMW I couldn't decide on it for weeks I went to pull the trigger and couldn't do it.

    what am I? BMW-curious? lmao


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    #38
    Morgase
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    ntlbell wrote: »
    No one is "bi-curious" your homosexual, straight or bisexual (some people won't even give you the last one)

    I disagree.

    Lots of people have a passing interest (whether as teenagers or as adults) in people of the same gender for a while and then discover after a while it was just a phase.

    Sexuality is a very fluid (pardon the pun) thing and I don't believe that a person can be neatly packaged into gay, straight and bi for their whole lives.


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    #39
    Mr. Frost
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    ntlbell wrote: »
    That wasn't someone who was bi-curious....that's just someone who's confused.

    I was going to buy a BMW I couldn't decide on it for weeks I went to pull the trigger and couldn't do it.

    what am I? BMW-curious? lmao

    Yeah equate buying a car to the complexities of the human brain :rolleyes:

    If someone is bi-curious then perhaps they're deciding on something that will affect the rest of their lives and change their life dramatically.


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    #40
    ntlbell
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    Morgase wrote: »
    I disagree.

    Lots of people have a passing interest (whether as teenagers or as adults) in people of the same gender for a while and then discover after a while it was just a phase.

    Sexuality is a very fluid (pardon the pun) thing and I don't believe that a person can be neatly packaged into gay, straight and bi for their whole lives.

    I understand during puberty there can be a bit of confusion this doesn't make you "bi curious" it just it what it is a confusion.

    Once you're past the teenage years your one or the other and if your not, your back to my initial post on the tread...


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    #41
    jim o doom
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    An ex of mine did it for attention with another hot girl when I was younger (like aged 18; many moons ago) at it was hot.. but it ticked me off as well. Regardless of what the reasoning, I don't think anybodies OH should be kissing someone else, for a laugh, attention or pleasure. It's a bit of a trust breach as far as I am concerned.


    That being said if I was told that there would be a 3some involved prior to said kiss I'd be ok'ing that motherf*cker in 10 billionths of a second flat. Apparently my genitals still have a considerable part of the decision making process.


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    #42
    ntlbell
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    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    Yeah equate buying a car to the complexities of the human brain :rolleyes:

    choosing a car that turns you on is a very complex process.

    the process is not the issue the complexity is not the issue.

    the naming convention is.


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    #43
    Mr. Frost
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    ntlbell wrote: »
    Once you're past the teenage years your one or the other and if your not, your back to my initial post on the tread...


    What so everyone matures or figures out exactly who they are at the same time? :confused:


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    #44
    Mr. Frost
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    ntlbell wrote: »
    choosing a car that turns you on is a very complex process.

    the process is not the issue the complexity is not the issue.

    the naming convention is.

    So in affect, you agree that someone can be bi-curious but as long as we call it 'confused' instead, that's ok?


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    #45
    shellyboo
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    Snow-Monkey wrote: »
    I do know what bisexuality is...

    My own personal opinion is not going to be spoken on this one,
    but i left that post open to see how shellyboos logic worked she didnt reply you did.........

    Yes I did...


    Snow-Monkey wrote: »
    My point being if i had gf and she decied that infact she was bi, and she wanted to kiss other girls.

    I'd
    A, say well if you can kiss other girls, so does that mean I can?. If she said no i wouldnt agree simply because why she she go kissing other girls and i cant ? ( Bi sexual partner goes from exclusive to none eclusive...)
    B , I's see no point continuing in the reletionship as whast the point she's aloud to get what she wants yet ive got to sit back granted there could be rewards but as well al no that can turn against you.....

    That's the wrong question. The queestion your gf is asking you is "Can I kiss people of the same sex as me?". You'd be within your rights to ask her the same question (if you can kiss members of the same sex, therefore making you non-exclusive as well), but not to ask her if you can kiss other girls. She's not asking you if she can kiss other guys, since she gets that aspect of sexuality from you already. But she can't get a same-sex experience from you, it's not possible.


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    #46
    ntlbell
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    jim o doom wrote: »
    An ex of mine did it for attention with another hot girl when I was younger (like 18 many moons ago) at it was hot.. but it ticked me off as well. Regardless of what the reasoning, I don't think anybodies OH should be kissing someone else, for a laugh, attention or pleasure. It's a bit of a trust breach as far as I am concerned.

    That being said if I was told that there would be a 3some involved prior to said kiss I'd be ok'ing that motherf*cker in 10 billionths of a second flat. Apparently my genitals still have a considerable part of the decision making process.

    I'm 3some-curious 4-somecurious 5-somecurious gangbangcurious etc

    but she won't have any of it

    :confused:


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    #47
    shellyboo
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    ntlbell wrote: »
    I'm 3some-curious 4-somecurious 5-somecurious gangbangcurious etc

    but she won't have any of it

    :confused:

    She might be if you let her kiss a girl once in a while :)


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    #48
    jim o doom
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    shellyboo wrote: »
    Yes I did...





    That's the wrong question. The queestion your gf is asking you is "Can I kiss people of the same sex as me?". You'd be within your rights to ask her the same question (if you can kiss members of the same sex, therefore making you non-exclusive as well), but not to ask her if you can kiss other girls. She's not asking you if she can kiss other guys, since she gets that aspect of sexuality from you already. But she can't get a same-sex experience from you, it's not possible.

    "She can get the same-sex experience with you"?

    Yeah because that's all a person other half is there for - their non same-sex experience with you.
    If someone is OK'ing their OH to go and CHEAT with someone else, it doesn't matter what the sex of the person is at all.. I know above I said blahedy blah threesome.. but cheating is cheating and that's really all there is to it :p


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    #49
    Mr. Frost
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    ntlbell wrote: »
    I'm 3some-curious 4-somecurious 5-somecurious gangbangcurious etc

    but she won't have any of it

    :confused:

    :pac:

    When you know something you want, like a threesome (and a lot of guys say it's something they'd like to do) it's different, being bicurious means just that, being curious.


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    #50
    ntlbell
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    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    So in affect, you agree that someone can be bi-curious but as long as we call it 'confused' instead, that's ok?

    I'm saying, bi-curious is not a sexual orientation.

    It's usually just someone who lacks _any_ expirience one way or the other.

    but i have a solution if you ever think your bi-curious

    throw on a hardcore gay porn flick.

    If it turns you on your getting somewhere if you feel sick to your stomach your getting somewhere....


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    #51
    Kya1976
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    isn't trysexual a better term?


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    #52
    jim o doom
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    ntlbell wrote: »
    I'm 3some-curious 4-somecurious 5-somecurious gangbangcurious etc

    but she won't have any of it

    :confused:

    haha "no crossing swords"? blech! yeah as most horny men are - but would we actually go through with it when it came to bat? another matter entirely :)


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    #53
    ntlbell
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    Mr. Frost wrote: »
    :pac:

    When you know something you want, like a threesome (and a lot of guys say it's something they'd like to do) it's different, being bicurious means just that, being curious.

    i am curious...curious will it ever happen *crosses fingers*


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    #54
    shellyboo
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    jim o doom wrote: »
    "She can get the same-sex experience with you"?

    Yeah because that's all a person other half is there for - their non same-sex experience with you.
    If someone is OK'ing their OH to go and CHEAT with someone else, it doesn't matter what the sex of the person is at all.. I know above I said blahedy blah threesome.. but cheating is cheating and that's really all there is to it :p


    Don't put words in my mouth, please. I never said that sex or kissing was all there is to any relationship.

    You consider it cheating, I do not, as long as there is permission. If a partner of mine wanted to go kiss guys, I would be fine with that. It's something I can't give him sexually, and I want him to be satisfied. I'd expect the same in return. I can't get the same jollies from kissing a guy as I would kissing a girl, so I have to go elsewhere for it - but ONLY if my partner okays it. If he considered it cheating, I absolutely would not do it.


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    #55
    mollybird
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    i snogged one of my girlfriends when i was on mad night out and told my OH and he was grand about it. but dear god i would not do it sober.

    now if it is done sober that is another story so i don't think kissing a girl = kissing a boy. it all depends on the situation.


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    #56
    Nevyn
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    ntlbell wrote: »
    I'm 3some-curious 4-somecurious 5-somecurious gangbangcurious etc

    but she won't have any of it

    :confused:

    Human sexuality is a lot more then the gender of the person you are kissing.
    Yes there are people who are into multipartner sex or are multipartner sex curious and some of them can and to go on to explore this with in a relationship
    be it with one partner or more.

    If that is part of your sexuality and you feel the need to explore it then you need to find a compromise with your partner or if you can't then break up so you can explore it with others.


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    #57
    Mr. Frost
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    mollybird wrote: »
    i snogged one of my girlfriends when i was on mad night out and told my OH and he was grand about it. but dear god i would not do it sober.

    now if it is done sober that is another story so i don't think kissing a girl = kissing a boy. it all depends on the situation.

    So if your boyfriend went out, got drunk, and kissed a bloke you'd be ok with it because he wasn't sober?


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    #58
    ntlbell
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    shellyboo wrote: »
    She might be if you let her kiss a girl once in a while :)

    I guess she's going out with a talented guy ;)


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    #59
    Snowie
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    shellyboo wrote: »
    Yes I did...





    That's the wrong question. The queestion your gf is asking you is "Can I kiss people of the same sex as me?". You'd be within your rights to ask her the same question (if you can kiss members of the same sex, therefore making you non-exclusive as well), but not to ask her if you can kiss other girls. She's not asking you if she can kiss other guys, since she gets that aspect of sexuality from you already. But she can't get a same-sex experience from you, it's not possible.



    whats the difference between kissing a girl and a guy ? besides from gender like this is what I dont get...
    Why can she break all rules of a reletionship and kiss another girl yet I stand there like a mug while she get s to have fun with other girls...
    why cant the man kiss other women ?



    seem pretty one sided to me.....


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    #60
    jim o doom
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    shellyboo wrote: »
    Don't put words in my mouth, please. I never said that sex or kissing was all there is to any relationship.

    You consider it cheating, I do not, as long as there is permission. If a partner of mine wanted to go kiss guys, I would be fine with that. It's something I can't give him sexually, and I want him to be satisfied. I'd expect the same in return. I can't get the same jollies from kissing a guy as I would kissing a girl, so I have to go elsewhere for it - but ONLY if my partner okays it. If he considered it cheating, I absolutely would not do it.

    Sorry for mouth word insertion, I was just drawing (as usual) the wrong conclusion.. I understand what you are saying, that it's ok if your given "permission", but (there's always a but) - just because you can't give your OH something sexually that they want, doesn't make it ok.. (well ok in yours but not in mine)..

    Like put it this way, what if your OH wanted to be with a fat girl, or a really tall girl, or some other shape of girl, or race of girl, or whatever type of girl you could never physically be, because you are who you are.. he wants those other girls, but that's not ok with you because they are girls.. but you can never be chinese/indian/black/whatever the hell type of girl he wants.. and can never satisfy that desire..

    We quelch our desires for others, because we are with someone.. well I do anyways.. anyway I'm not condemning you, each to their own, and my rules are mine not yours; im just trying to say that I think the sex of whoever your partner would be with is arbitrary to the whole situation :)


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    #61
    bennyblanco
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    Personally I wouldn't be into it.Maybe it's because I'm the youngest child but I'm not big on sharing.


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