Can deaf people "hear" themselves think?

The Paws

No worries anplaya!

Black Swan

Although not born deaf, didn't Ludwig van Beethoven compose his 9th Symphony when deaf?

anplaya

The Paws wrote: »

I think there is one sign language for all around the world - simple version ones - then you have ISL, BSL etc.

ISL = Irish Sign Language, BSL = British Sign Language etc.. ISL is different to BSL but not very different...ISL use mostly one hand for lettering where as BSL use two. This is an example.

The same idea goes to American Sign Language. ..the French, Spanish..... again these are different due to language difference but in a different way. Have a google - type ISL etc!

Even one is speaking same language eg English from here to the one from America/England/Austriala but it is signed in a different way.

I hope this is correct!

the one that deaf people use to speak to people from other countries is known as international sign language.its basically a simple way to communicate as all sign worldwide is different.obviously in ireland we use isl.

a french lad would use french sign language whilst an irish person would use isl.if they spoke using their own sign languages itll be completely different to the sign ya use so you woudnt understand a thing,basically the same with spoken languages.

jedistev

this is best forum i have see!!!

i cant believe how people is!!!!



cos I'm Deaf myself

yoshytoshy

Can anyone hear me typing ? ,no. Because I pressed the keys long before you've read this:D

jedistev

jedistev wrote: »

this is best forum i have see!!!

i cant believe how people is!!!!



cos I'm Deaf myself

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kincsem

minidazzler wrote: »

Is this like one of those Japanese Haiku's??? Like If a tree falls in a forrest and there is noone around to hear it, does it make a sound??

It a mime falls in a forest, and there is no one around, does anyone care?
If you kick a mime in the genitals does he make a sound?
If a mime swears, does his mother wash his hands with soap?
If a mime is arrested, do they tell him he has the right to remain silent?

Blind porn. What is it?

Hagar

minidazzler wrote: »

If a tree falls in a forrest and there is noone around to hear it, does it make a sound??

If a man speaks and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?

javaboy

kincsem wrote: »

Blind porn. What is it?

Apparently some huge percentage of our turny on-edness comes from sound rather than sight. I'm not sure how true that is but later on I'll grab a stopwatch and my laptop and run some experiments to find out.

IvySlayer

javaboy wrote: »

Apparently some huge percentage of our turny on-edness comes from sound rather than sight. I'm not sure how true that is but later on I'll grab a stopwatch and my laptop and run some experiments to find out.

*finds a sexy wimmen*

*puts on phone*

Right, go.

Mysticvean

I've had a good laugh reading the posts in this thread.

Thanks for the laughs.

Scanlas The 2nd

Is there any deaf people here to enlighten us. We all think without language, when you're playing a sport you don't have time to think in language, you imagine a events that potentially could occur and choose the best option to meet your objectives.

Mysticvean

It does my nut in to see people use the word "speak" in relation to sign languages.

We do not SPEAK sign languages. We SIGN in sign languages.

Ok... Let's be serious here.

The OP asks whether someone born deaf can think in English.

Let's look at me. I speak only for myself here, not for everyone.

I'm deaf from birth.

Yet here I am typing away in fluent English.

Being Deaf, it is obvious that I do not hear as you do. So therefore what I perceive as "words" as heard in my inner voice is not the same as what these "words" would be as heard in your inner voice.

Capisce?

Anplaya, good explanation of sign languages. One little wee correction, though.

What is known as international sign is not actually a true language per se, but rather, a system. There is no set vocabulary, no set grammatical structure for international sign. It depends on the parties involved using the system of communicating how it works.

However, when it comes to ISL, BSL, AUSLAN, ASL, the mouth patterns may give the superficial impression that these sign languages are based on English, but that isn't the case. Each of these sign languages have their own vocabularies, and grammatical structures.

thirtythirty

Mysticvean wrote: »

It does my nut in to see people use the word "speak" in relation to sign languages.

We do not SPEAK sign languages. We SIGN in sign languages.

Ok... Let's be serious here.

The OP asks whether someone born deaf can think in English.

Let's look at me. I speak only for myself here, not for everyone.

I'm deaf from birth.

Yet here I am typing away in fluent English.

Being Deaf, it is obvious that I do not hear as you do. So therefore what I perceive as "words" as heard in my inner voice is not the same as what these "words" would be as heard in your inner voice.

Capisce?

Anplaya, good explanation of sign languages. One little wee correction, though.

What is known as international sign is not actually a true language per se, but rather, a system. There is no set vocabulary, no set grammatical structure for international sign. It depends on the parties involved using the system of communicating how it works.

However, when it comes to ISL, BSL, AUSLAN, ASL, the mouth patterns may give the superficial impression that these sign languages are based on English, but that isn't the case. Each of these sign languages have their own vocabularies, and grammatical structures.

That's mad - did you personally assign noises to letters in your head when you were learning?

So for instance your "d" could be our sound "zzz"?

anplaya

old thread lads from 2009

thirtythirty

Ye I know, but it's been given a new life by someone with answers!

corktina

If an old thread pops out of obscurity , and noone reads,it, does it still go "pop"?

coffee_cake

I don't always think in sounds
more like general vague impressions
sometimes in written words as i sometimes mentally need to see them written to process them better if someone is speaking to me

forfuxsake

I remember reading the word of a blind man which went something like this.

'People with sight often try to imagine blindness by closing their eyes, but this is not how it feels to be blind. To fee what a blind person feels you should try and use your finger to look round a corner'

Never mind deaf people, how do blind people know when to stop wiping?

Mysticvean

http://whatshouldwecallrit.tumblr.com/post/23203456854/when-you-find-out-that-there-are-a-lot-of-deaf-people

Exactly the GIFs for this thread.

Mysticvean

spottyelephant wrote: »

That's mad - did you personally assign noises to letters in your head when you were learning?

So for instance your "d" could be our sound "zzz"?

I don't think in sounds per se.

More how I would mouth/say these words.

Mysticvean

Domo230 wrote: »

Answer me this then. How do you speak on the internet if your'e deaf?





But to be serious the way you think in your head must be extremely different to how people who can hear do. It's so alien a concept to me (and I imagine most people who can hear) that I find it difficult to imagine what it must be like.

Is your inner voice (thoughts) in images instead of hearing words?

LOL, :P re. How do I speak on the Internet.

Seriously... Thoughts, rather than hearing words, i would think in terms more like concepts and inner-speak, I suspect the way we think is a lot more similar than you suspect. I just don't hear words.

opinion guy

bluewolf wrote: »

I don't always think in sounds
more like general vague impressions
sometimes in written words as i sometimes mentally need to see them written to process them better if someone is speaking to me

Don't wolves think in howls, bottom sniffs, bearing teeth and various odours ?!?!

Mr.Biscuits

Seen a young blind guy running for the Luas the other day, stick stretched out in front of him, moving it rapidly from side to side. He had a big cheesy grin on his face though, as he knew well that if anyone didn't get out of his way, calamity would clearly ensue.

coffee_cake

opinion guy wrote: »

Don't wolves think in howls, bottom sniffs, bearing teeth and various odours ?!?!

yeah, that's when it's full moon time

Stark

Deaf people have no souls. No soul means no internal dialogue. Case closed.

Mr.Biscuits

Stark wrote: »

Deaf people have no souls. No soul means no internal dialogue. Case closed.

That's gingers you're think of there.