RTÉ DTT Tests: Mullaghanish

L1011

You should be able to get a perfect picture, DTT has error correction. Here I'm getting DTT off two different masts (two different aerials, loooong story) and the UHF analogue in both cases is snowy and herringboned. Picture is 100% on both TVs.

vince

thanks for that i may get a new mpeg4 tv after xmass to go whit me new foxsat box.

TheDriver

Same here, I get fairly poor reception from Mullaghanish as I get my RTE off a relay and TV3 off Mullaghanish with a very powerful amp but DTT is full on, full signal and perfect pic with no pixelation.
Lots of TVs seem to have mpeg4 now, I have it included in my freesat TV so it looks good. hard to even watch analog now

galtee boy

Can other DTT users in the South West confirm that Mullaganish DTT is off air with the last day or two ? I have no signal here in North Cork.

dunleas

I can confirm no signal at present in North Cork as well:(

John mac

yes can confirm no dtt from Mullaghanish today.

jimmyjim11

Any one know when it's back up surely not a cooling issue this time

kinsaleferg

I used get 100% reception, been off since 5th. No idea why and not aware of any engineering notice. might try and swivel the aerial over toward Spur Hill to kill an hour

TheDriver

ditto, off in Bandon

networks

sorry lads have no pictures on tv this evening,intermittent sound,is it something with the transmitter?thanks

Denethor

I'm assuming given the bad weather that there is no access to the transmitter

Ninjakettle

Hi Guys,

Could someone tell me if Crosshaven is transmitting DTT?
In laws considering new tv but would like to know if they'll get the digital channels first. I think they have very poor TV3 in their area at the moment so not sure if this means they won't get DTT either?

craoltoir

Bad reception from analogue does not mean that you won't receive digital. The beauty of digital is that if you receive it, it should be perfect. Somebody in Cork will let you know if reception is available in Crosshaven.

If you get your signal from Spur Hill you should be OK for DTT.

dowtchaboy

I'm in Crosshaven. No sign of DTT yet - I will put up a note as soon as I see anything.
The reason they can't get TV3 is that TV3 never paid for installation of the fill-in transmitters in places like Crosshaven - they just went with the 95% of the population that were covered by the main RTE sites and tough titty on the rest of us. Some people in Crosser can get TV3 by aiming a specific antenna for TV3 up the river (ie west) but it's quite iffy. I can get it upstairs (sometimes) on a rabbits ears, but not downstairs.

Anyway - DTT will solve their problem. All the multiplex is transmitted on the same carrier so if we get RTE1 we'll get 2, TV3, TG4 and RTE News channels.

Are they getting their signal from the Crosshaven transmitter at present? If so they should have absolutely no problem and get a perfectly clear noise-free picture from all 5 channels.

db

Ninjakettle

Cheers fellas. Yes, they get their signal from crosshaven at the moment. Is there any 'schedule' that RTENL are working too with regards to updating transmitters? Do we expect it this year sometime in Crosshaven for instance?

Ninjakettle

Ninjakettle wrote: »

Cheers fellas. Yes, they get their signal from crosshaven at the moment. Is there any 'schedule' that RTENL are working too with regards to updating transmitters? Do we expect it this year sometime in Crosshaven for instance?

Crosshaven was expected to be completed by Q3 2009, obviously running behind schedule.

The Cush

Ninjakettle wrote: »

Cheers fellas. Yes, they get their signal from crosshaven at the moment. Is there any 'schedule' that RTENL are working too with regards to updating transmitters? Do we expect it this year sometime in Crosshaven for instance?

RTE tendered for the upgrade of 13 relay sites last Feb. Crosshaven wasn't on the list.

See this post.

Ninjakettle

Cheers Cush - so basically it seems that Crosshaven is out in the cold till further upgrade notices are released. Ah well, all good things eh. There's always Sky :rolleyes:

Riordd01

Can any one tell me if Mullaghanish DDT is stil off the air. I have no signal in Carrigaline. Tanks.

The Cush

Riordd01 wrote: »

Can any one tell me if Mullaghanish DDT is stil off the air. I have no signal in Carrigaline. Tanks.

Yes, still off.

CorkMaths.ie

Still out here too

The Cush

Analogue gone also from Mullaghanish this evening.

Robxxx7

saw this on the Kerry Radio website

Engineers work to restore television signal to Kerry

Householders across Kerry were left with no television signal last night due to an ESB mains break. According to engineers with RTE the unplanned break in transmission happened at 20 past 10 last night. Due to the nature of the mast site access was difficult but most services were restored by 12.30. TG4 transmission was fixed at half 8 this morning. However, some households are still reported breaks in transmission and engineers say this is due to antenna damage at the Mullaghanish site caused by lightening and ice. Teams are waiting for a thaw before full repairs can be carried out.

FrostyTheSnowMa

Anyone have an idea when the DTT will start up again from Mullaghanish?
:pac:

lucernarian

The Cush wrote: »

RTE tendered for the upgrade of 13 relay sites last Feb. Crosshaven wasn't on the list.

See this post.

I know I'm being pedantic but some of those DTT relays are not at existing sites. They are brand new as part of analogue switchover.

Also, would TV3 terrestrial coverage be more around the 80-85% population coverage mark?

Rippy

dowtchaboy wrote: »

I'm in Crosshaven. No sign of DTT yet - I will put up a note as soon as I see anything.
The reason they can't get TV3 is that TV3 never paid for installation of the fill-in transmitters in places like Crosshaven - they just went with the 95% of the population that were covered by the main RTE sites and tough titty on the rest of us. Some people in Crosser can get TV3 by aiming a specific antenna for TV3 up the river (ie west) but it's quite iffy. I can get it upstairs (sometimes) on a rabbits ears, but not downstairs.

Anyway - DTT will solve their problem. All the multiplex is transmitted on the same carrier so if we get RTE1 we'll get 2, TV3, TG4 and RTE News channels.

Are they getting their signal from the Crosshaven transmitter at present? If so they should have absolutely no problem and get a perfectly clear noise-free picture from all 5 channels.

db

Most people in Crosshaven can receive Tv3 and also DTT from Mullaganish (when it gets repaired). Problem for most folks is they also have an aerial for South Coast pointing at Camden.(group A also). Take that aerial off, change polarity to from vertical to horizontal, point it up the river and should be grand.
South Coast gone very soon ,I think.

TheDriver

when is soon though, South Coast's digital seems to have become a failure and I wonder how long til SC just goes defunct

cillo2000

I sent a mail to RTENL a few days ago about the DTT transmission and this is the response I received this evening.

"
Hi Cillian,

DTT services will resume at Mullaghanish on a test service basis until the official launch of DTT later in 2010. The reason it is off currently is due to antenna damaged sustained during the recent freezing weather. I can’t be definitive regarding a restoration date at this time.

Thank you for your enquiry.

Regards,

Brian.

Brian Geraghty
Interference Manager"

Ninjakettle

Rippy wrote: »

Most people in Crosshaven can receive Tv3 and also DTT from Mullaganish (when it gets repaired). Problem for most folks is they also have an aerial for South Coast pointing at Camden.(group A also). Take that aerial off, change polarity to from vertical to horizontal, point it up the river and should be grand.
South Coast gone very soon ,I think.

That's really interesting Rippy - the inlaws are currently receiving south coast so does this mean they could do as you say and repoint aerial to crosshaven (or did you mean Mullaganish) and get DTT?

Do you think it would it be possible to put up another aerial and combine the signals into 1 down cable? This would have the advantage of keeping the SCTV service.

John mac

does this mean they could do as you say and repoint aerial

yes to Mullaghanish,

Ninjakettle

John mac wrote: »

yes to Mullaghanish,

Thanks John.

Out of interest, why do people think SCTV is going to fold soon? Freesat pushing it out of business?

vince

i have only seen 3 sctv digital dishes in the clonakilty area. not many in a sctv stronghold. they have their work cut out.

Rippy

Ninjakettle wrote: »

Do you think it would it be possible to put up another aerial and combine the signals into 1 down cable? This would have the advantage of keeping the SCTV service.

No, the signal from SCTV at Camden and from Mullaganish would be received by both aerials. This would cause severe ghosting and distortion if combined down one cable. If aerials are for different groups they can be combined using a diplexer,as is used in Crosser for RTE form Goats Cross (group C/D) and South coast (A). So it is either TV3 OR SCTV .

Rippy

Ninjakettle wrote: »

Thanks John.

Out of interest, why do people think SCTV is going to fold soon? Freesat pushing it out of business?

Disregarding the financial viability of SCTV digital, the analogue service is no longer licenced.
After many years of legality,they have hoisted the Skull and Crossbones once again.:D
Enforcement by Comreg will close them down when they get around to it.

The Cush

Rippy wrote: »

Disregarding the financial viability of SCTV digital, the analogue service is no longer licenced.
After many years of legality,they have hoisted the Skull and Crossbones once again.:D
Enforcement by Comreg will close them down when they get around to it.

Deflectors were granted a 3 year licence extension to the of 2012 on the 16th Nov.

Rippy

The Cush wrote: »

Deflectors were granted a 3 year licence extension to the of 2012 on the 16th Nov.

Quite right I missed this

South Coast will surely continue their analogue broadcasts up to this deadline, as long as they remain in business.

MikeC2048

Until a couple of days ago, I was getting a good DVB-T signal on Channel 62 - It is now off the air, and I assume that is due to the feed from Mullaghanish also being off the air for Digital. So I'd keep a eye on Camden at 62/UHF for a while to see if the signal returns. I can still also see a carrier on that frequency at 60DB uV (amplified), but there's no content there.

dowtchaboy

MikeC2048 wrote: »

Until a couple of days ago, I was getting a good DVB-T signal on Channel 62 - It is now off the air, and I assume that is due to the feed from Mullaghanish also being off the air for Digital. So I'd keep a eye on Camden at 62/UHF for a while to see if the signal returns. I can still also see a carrier on that frequency at 60DB uV (amplified), but there's no content there.

Mike - are you sure it's from Crosshaven? And I presume you mean Goat's Cross (RTE's) rather than Camden (South Coast's) - or are SC playing about with DTT?
PS - what freq in MHz is that? My USB dongle needs VLC to run and it needs freq not channel #
ta. db.

MikeC2048

Sorry, you're right Goat's Cross, rather than Camden. I'm cant remember if what I got (and remember it's only a carrier at the moment - power, but no structure) was on Ch. 62 or 63 UHF - my meter doesnt show that. Best of luck with it, but remember I havent received a structured signal for a week. You might be better trying your luck with Mullaghanish (Ch 25, I think), if it's back on air.

The frequencies should be (from the UHF Wiki):

UHF bandChannelVideo carrier (MHz)Audio carrier (MHz)21471.25477.2522479.25485.2523487.25493.2524495.25501.2525503.25509.2526511.25517.2527519.25525.2528527.25533.2529535.25541.2530543.25549.2531551.25557.2532559.25565.2533567.25573.2534575.25581.2535583.25589.2536591.25597.2537599.25605.2538607.25613.2539615.25621.2540623.25629.2541631.25637.2542639.25645.2543647.25653.2544655.25661.2545663.25669.2546671.25677.2547679.25685.2548687.25693.2549695.25701.2550703.25709.2551711.25717.2552719.25725.2553727.25733.2554735.25741.2555743.25749.2556751.25757.2557759.25765.2558767.25773.2559775.25781.2560783.25789.2561791.25797.2562799.25805.2563807.25813.2564815.25821.2565823.25829.2566831.25837.2567839.25845.2568847.25853.2569855.25861.25

vince

just home from mullaghanish whit new photos of the mast. can i send them to any onehere to post them up. if your interested. still ice falling down from the mast today. a bit of snow on the ground still.

TheDriver

and still no digital signal!

More Music

Not long to wait now.

John mac

More Music wrote: »

Not long to wait now.

go on tell us when it will be back

galtee boy

More Music wrote: »

Not long to wait now.

Days or weeks ? Put us out of our misery please ? I have a brother who has been using DTT from Mullaghanish as his main signal source, as his analogue is dire and he doesn't have Sky, so he's waiting with baited breath !

TheDriver

same here, no RTE for a month and going to put some sagem picnic boxes in for mates who want rte and its the easiest way so please come back on!!

Rippy

From an unofficial source, should be back on today (Thurs ) or Friday :D

galtee boy

Rippy wrote: »

From an unofficial source, should be back on today (Thurs ) or Friday :D

Emailed RTE NL yesterday and just received a reply stating that engineering works on DTT from Mullaghanish have been ongoing and that test transmissions should resume in the coming week. Hopefully "the coming week" means anytime from today onwards !

UPDATE : Rippy, your source was correct ! Mullaghanish DTT firing on all cyclinders again as of 10.30am approx. RTE1,RTE2,TV3 on test card,TG4 and four radio stations.

cillo2000

I can confirm that DTT is working south Kerry again, but the sound in RTE is badly out of sync and TV3 Just has a test card.

dunleas

Did a scan today and to my surprise I picked up Mullaghanish at 100% signal and 100% quaility. The reason why I'm suprised is that I have my powered rabbits ears in the attic pointed towards Spur Hill since xmas. Has the new mast gone live?

CorkMaths.ie

Must give it a try with rabbit ears, would be great if signal got that strong