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10Mbit & 12Mbit broadband

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  • 15-01-2009 12:27am
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    CivilServant
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    Can't seem to find ISPs offering the 10 & 12mbit ADSL2 option. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, are they still around? Can't stand the ping on the 7.6mb connection /shakes fist :pac:


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    Spear
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    CivilServant wrote: »
    Can't seem to find ISPs offering the 10 & 12mbit ADSL2 option. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, are they still around? Can't stand the ping on the 7.6mb connection /shakes fist :pac:

    http://www.smarttelecom.ie/residential_package.html
    http://www.magnetentertainment.ie/products/llu/10.htm

    2 as a start. There's also UPC unless you really want to stick with ADSL2.


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    CivilServant
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    Nice, but only a select few (relatively) can get those packages.


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    smellslikeshoes
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    Spear wrote: »
    http://www.smarttelecom.ie/residential_package.html
    http://www.magnetentertainment.ie/products/llu/10.htm

    2 as a start. There's also UPC unless you really want to stick with ADSL2.

    I'm guessing by the speeds he has quoted he actually means the 10 and 12 mbit business packages that Eircom and bitstream resellers provide. They are still provided, you just got to look in the business broadband sections of the sites, can find the Eircom ones here, though at 89euro ex. vat for 10mbit and 169euro ex.vat for 12mbit they are not cheap.


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    Spear
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    CivilServant wrote: »
    Nice, but only a select few (relatively) can get those packages.

    All ADLS2 services are currently only available in LLU'd exchanges.


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    cgarvey
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    Spear wrote: »
    All ADLS2 services are currently only available in LLU'd exchanges.

    Do you mean all Smart/Magnet ADSL2 services? Because eircom have ADSL2 equipment in exchanges that aren't unbundled!


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    Spear
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    cgarvey wrote: »
    Do you mean all Smart/Magnet ADSL2 services? Because eircom have ADSL2 equipment in exchanges that aren't unbundled!

    But not selling those services to the public currently.


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    smellslikeshoes
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    Spear wrote: »
    But not selling those services to the public currently.

    The 10mbit and 12mbit business packages Eircom and the resellers provide are ADSL2+.


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    Spear
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    smellslikeshoes wrote: »
    The 10mbit and 12mbit business packages Eircom and the resellers provide are ADSL2+.

    Business packages though, not to the normal consumers.


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    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Spear wrote: »
    Business packages though, not to the normal consumers.

    I'm sorry I guess we have different interpretations of what "all" means.
    Spear wrote: »
    All ADLS2 services are currently only available in LLU'd exchanges.

    The OP originally referred to the 10 and 12mbit which can only be business packages so your point about ADSL2+ being not for normal consumers is completely irrelevant anyway.


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    Spear
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    smellslikeshoes wrote: »
    I'm sorry I guess we have different interpretations of what "all" means.

    Somehow I don't think a business line user is concerned about ping, so in his context all is applicable since he'll only be looking for residential packages.
    The OP originally referred to the 10 and 12mbit which can only be business packages so your point about ADSL2+ being not for normal consumers is completely irrelevant anyway.

    I don't get this bit, 10 and 12 mbit packages certainly don't have to be business packages as evidenced by the two links I first responded with. I also never made any claim that ADSL2 isn't for normal consumbers, that's Eircoms policy.


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    smellslikeshoes
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    Spear wrote: »
    Somehow I don't think a business line user is concerned about ping, so in his context all is applicable since he'll only be looking for residential packages.
    There is plenty of reasons a business user would like low latency.
    I don't get this bit, 10 and 12 mbit packages certainly don't have to be business packages as evidenced by the two links I first responded with.
    The only companies that do both 10 and 12mbit ADSL2+ packages are Eircom and the resellers as business packages and not either of the two providers you linked.
    I also never made any claim that ADSL2 isn't for normal consumbers, that's Eircoms policy
    I think you are misinterpreted my comment, I wasn't commenting on your opinion of whether ADSL2+ should be provided to home users or not, I was commenting on the Fact that it was irrelevant since the 10mbit and 12mbit is only currently for business users.

    That will be my last word on the issue since this argument is getting more and more convoluted and somewhat pointless by the minute.


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