Is Orchestrated Dishonesty the Norm now ?

Abraham

This aspect of human behaviour in Irish society deserves some consideration in today's world and it has to do with collective, orchestrated, unadulterated dishonesty.

Like what ?

(1) - It's as plain as an overcast sky that a whole raft of people within banking circles and not just in the most criticised Irish bank of recent days, that there was blatant lack of factual accountability in favour of three card trickery of the corporate variety at the very highest level involving the most omnipotent figure in that entire banking entity. Some shrewd observers earlier on national radio today suggested that the number who 'knew' could be as high as 50.

But that's O.K. There's such a thing as loyalty to the bank,.... one's colleagues ? the hand that feeds you ? No whistleblower(s) .....not even anonymously....nobody shouted stop.......nobody within the previously respectable institution said ' hey, this is wrong and I'm having none of it'.
Why ?

(2) Paedophilia was absolutely rampant (no exaggeration....go look at the scale of abuse, number of prosecutions, severity of sentences etc) within clericalism and the RC church in particular yet there existed the wall of silence by people who MUST have known (many admit privately that they knew) yet there was no 'outing' of witnesses from within. Not alone that but lies were told to the state's investigators and a great deal of obstruction too in regard to uncovering the trails of abuse.

Does that diminish honesty and truth in the eyes of many people or what ?

(3) Political corruption too was rampant and discovered in practically every county. This must have been very obvious to honest politicians when they saw inexplicable decisions at planning hearings, attitudes being reversed overnight in some cases and the lurking presence in so much of this activity of those who had long established reputations for dissolution and profligacy.

Yet it was allowed to continue year after year with only mild acknowledgment of suspicion until such time as pressure to investigate built up OUTSIDE the planning process and had to be dealt with. Many, many employees, were witnessing up close what was going on yet their silence and therefore their acquiescence was impenetrable for over decades of time.

Is there some plausible explanation that would serve to massage the truth ?

(4) A large body of Gardai doing duty on the public street in broad daylight in relation to public disorder engage in discreditable conduct amounting in some instances to a number of them having "cases to answer" in the law courts but the clinching evidence that should have been available to the deciding court fails to materialise. Why ? Because of amnesia or lack of recollection or poor vision in regard to other Garda witnesses identified as such by CCTV. A dozen or so Gardai who were in the thick of the activity saw nothing, heard nothing, and in some cases failed to recognise their own colleagues when standing beside them on the street. A classic example of collective amnesia.

" without fear, favour, malice or illwill "....that old Garda oath rings a bit hollow at times like this, doesn't it ?

Are the foregoing cases not indicative of the existence of orchestrated dishonesty in our society today ?

In a curious kind of way these different strands of Irish society will draw strength from each other. They will see themselves as having been loyal, a tribal kind of loyalism, but loyal nevertheless and that is the problem.
You get shunned, rejected and cast out from the cosy circles if you are disloyal and we have no answer for that situation. You do what the dominant group want you to do regardless.

old boy

as long as people keep electing the same type of lawmaker it is going to continue,
when john timmons was given the finger when he offered himself and 30 highly qualified and industrious officers that answered all your questions,
it was in my opinion that he would be too effective.
as it is no one in charge of anything in the upper orders is accountable for any thing, until accountibility for actions becomes the norm.

Abraham

Oh....and I forget to mention the medical professional whose insidious campaign of maiming 100+ women was permitted to carry on for decades because nobody saw fit to shout "STOP".
In that case a panel of eminences reviewed his practices and procedures and saw no cause for concern. In other words, carry on....you now have full approval for these activities.

That's either blind loyalty or stupidity and probably both. If they don't like that description then they should ask themselves whether they could hold the same review now and come up with the same result.

Does eminence have anything to do with honesty or is loyalty the preferred option ?