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PSYCHIC FAIRS: YOUR EXPERIENCES
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19-01-2009 10:33pm#1
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Ive been to a few of those fairs, from the big one in the RDS, to the smaller hotel based ones. I havent had readings at any, I would prefer a private reading, just as a personal thing. Its just calmer. The fairs themselves can be interesting, but some of the items offered and shown there make me grate my teeth, as to me some of it is snake oil. Bit rich coming from a reader I know, but there you go.
But I did take a table at a local fair last year, to see how it would go for me. All the other readers were charging at least €50, that seems to be the going rate. I thought it was high, but was told I had to charge a fee, or Id be extremely unpopular with the others.:p I needed to cover costs anyway. It was busy but the buzz in the room wasnt a bother until I got tired. I tended to shut it out and just work. I did 12 readings, most went good, I got good feedback after. I know two were not as successful, my first, and my last. The fee reflected that. But I was exhausted afterward, even the amount of talking you have to do is very tiring in itself.
I wont be doing it again, the charging is something I wont do anymore, so I just do the readings that happen my way by word of mouth. I would happily go to one of those fairs, I havent lately because I go regularly to spiritualist meetings in the UK, and that gives me my 'fix'.:D0 -
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Irishlawgirl wrote: »...those places are quite busy (not noisy but it's certainly not quiet).
That’s true, although I was sat opposite some Australian bloke named Robert (of ‘Robert and Marlee’) for this numerology thing before and I could barely hear him because of the chatter and activity reverberating in the hall. He didn’t exactly speak like Fred Elliott from Coronation Street, so I had a tough job making him out, which was obviously exacerbated by the background noise. It can be bothersome when you’re trying to listen to someone talk and to process what they’re saying. Also, there was an overhead tannoy sounding off with announcements every feckin’ 5-10 minutes. :mad:
Irishlawgirl wrote: »Went to the Mind Body Spirit event last year in the RDS. The workshops were great - well only actually went to Heidi Sawyers as i'm a huge fan.
Yeah, I headed along to one of her workshops before because I like that numerology stuff she does. She seems like a nice woman but she has a strongly business-oriented mind as well.
At one point everyone had to calculate their 'life path/birth path number' and she was requesting a show of hands for those in the room who had each life path number (ranging from 1-9). When she got to number 1 and asked for a show of hands, I was the only one out of about 50 people. :pac: She said it was unusual for number 1 life path number bearers to be into anything spiritual or metaphysical. Apparently because they wouldn't be the types of practice any sort of introspection. Well, I showed her.
And yes, I can count.
But you have to look at the whole numerological chart, accounting for the number of numbers (say, two 3s in the birth date) and the numbers represented on the three arrows/planes of expression on the Chinese magic square/Lo Shu.
The grid goes as follows...
3 6 9 - intellectual/mental plane
2 5 8 - emotional/soul plane
1 4 7 - physical/material plane
Hitler was born on April 20th 1889. 20-04-1889. His life path number was 5 (a soul plane number). He has one 2 and two 8s on the soul plane; one 4 and one 1 on the physical plane; and one 9 on the mental plane.
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2 - 88
1 4 -
If you look diagonally at the grid, there is a void running from where the 3 should be to where the 5 should be, to where the 7 should be. This is the arrow of scepticism/the enquirer. At best, it produces an enquiring, investigative mind with a philosophical bent. At worst, it can lead to being a bit of a nervous worrier, who's afraid of anything new or different that doesn't fit in with their established mental framework.
Anyway, it's all far more complex than just a life path number, though that is an essential component...
Sorry for rattling on.
Irishlawgirl wrote: »All in all - I wouldn't recommend a fair if you are going there for the purposes of a reading as they are generally at least 50 euros and last less than 20 minutes and it's a difficult environment for both reader and client.
Yeah, I've seen they're all €50 at a minimum, going up to as much as €80. :eek: I remember strolling around one fair and I saw that there was an aura reader woman charging €50. That was pass remarkable to me until I walked down the hall and saw another aura reader woman charging €35 for the exact same service. :rolleyes:
I suppose the amount of time a person spends with a reader is dependent on people queuing up behind them. I don't think all the readers want to stick to a 20-min reading limit and then shove people off, though I've witnessed some very obviously do that.
I sat down for a reading with an elderly lady named Dorothy about two years ago at one of these fairs. I saw that there was no-one queuing to see her but that didn't put me off. She didn't seem like she was trying to get rid of me a.s.a.p. and she was chatting normally and cordially to me away from the reading itself near the end. At that point, there were a couple of people queued behind me. Very nice woman. She was on about a place called 'Findhorn' in Scotland, amongst other things...
Even at the Mind Body Spirit you have people sitting getting different treatments, therapists dumping energies out into the walkways, I have stopped going to this to be honest it just doesnt sit right with me the way treatments and readings are done in the mix of energies that are going on.
I don't know much about energies but I imagine the practitioners of healing treatments have to 'dump' energy from their hands at various points throughout. There doesn't seem to be much of a partition or division between each treatment stall. Just a sheet of plywood or some curtains at most. It looks like a bit of a noxious melting pot with mismatched 'ingredients'/therapies, tbh.
... I havent had readings at any, I would prefer a private reading, just as a personal thing. Its just calmer.
I can see where you're coming from alright. A proper reading should be 'contained' physically.
The fairs themselves can be interesting, but some of the items offered and shown there make me grate my teeth, as to me some of it is snake oil.
I've seen a fair amount of stuff that could be bought at a far reduced price elsewhere (maybe they jack up the product prices to recoup the cost of having their stands there?), and items that didn't look like having any practical use, IMO. There's usually an over-eager salesmonkey who appears when they see you cast one eyeball in the direction of whatever it is they're peddling. :rolleyes:
... But I was exhausted afterward, even the amount of talking you have to do is very tiring in itself.
I've always wondered about that. Constant talking to people alone is pretty knackering when it's mostly one-sided. I know a fella who used to be a healer and he sad he would 'draw up' energy from the ever-charged volcanic centre of the earth to keep himself going. That may sound tapped... It was like he visualised it replenishing his energy stores and he trusted it. He says he doesn't like saying 'to believe' in something because that leaves it privy to doubt...
Abhainn-Rivers wrote: »I'm involved with a Holistic Fair in Swords, Dublin. This is one thats operated for charity. Its standard that people charge €25 for 20mins session with 10mins wind-up. Thats for the readings and same fee for the healing sessions. Both of these have the Readers/Healers presenting 10% of all sessions to charity.
That sounds very, very reasonable.
Abhainn-Rivers wrote: »Fairs are really just a chance for people to promote themselves and their services.
Generally, that's probably what it all should amount to. I was talking to this medium named Alex Martell at her stand before and she seemed jaded from just sitting there and reading for people. She was hoping that she could just build up her private client list and she had some business cards for people to take away. I understand that most of the readers only do the fairs for promotional purposes.
There was minor controversy at one of the Mind Body Spirit fairs last year when there was a 'Dianetics and Scientology' stand. There were anti-Scientology protesters outside the venue warning people to stay away from the stand. One of the protesters said she had a relative of a Limerick-hailing friend who was found in Australia by family. They took him off to be "de-programmed", only for the Scientologists to later kidnap him. Talk about weird. :rolleyes:
its interesting to see the views on fairs.i personally think they are like cattle markets,readers packed into them. Also expensive for a reader to take a table at,hence the €50 charge.
I agree with you. They aren't great places. At best, they're handy for people to find out about new treatments and readers for future reference in the outside world. I feel sort of sorry for the more elderly readers who do these fairs more-or-less full-time, from which they derive their incomes. People have freedom of choice, I know, but it's more difficult for the older readers to change course when they've been doing that sort of stuff for the majority of their adult years.
I wouldnt see a reader as not good if they have a small q,rather,i think other readers are more heavily promoted.
That's very true, IMO. There's a one named Betty Palko who gets a lot of promotion because she was once Princess Diana's personal psychic (Jesus, how many feckin' psychics did Diana have like??). Well, she did a flat-out, sterling job at that. Diana would clap her hands for her if she wasn't in a pine box underground.
why there is a charge in at the door,i dunno,dont think there should be one if you then fork out for a reading,and also think folk going in should be advised against multiple readings.maybe organisers could sort that out.
I agree. Fees for a reading only. Maybe the people at the door could forewarn the attendees of obtaining multiple readings? In a kind, well-meaning way like.
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