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Changing Accents

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  • 21-01-2009 4:14pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 7,456 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    I've lived in London for nearly 5 years, and a friend of mine recently commented that it's strange that my accent hasn't changed at all in that time.

    Which got me thinking, how come some people change accents very quickly, while others keep accents their whole lives, despite living somewhere else?

    I have a friend who went for a 3 week holiday in Australia, and came back, speaking with an Aussie accent for about a month.

    On the other extreme, I have another friend, with Irish Parents, who lived in England from when he was born, to when he was about 6 and now lives in Ireland, but still has a very strong English accent, almost 20 years later.

    Do people purposefully change their accent? Are some accents easier to keep than others? I've never known an American to lose their accent.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    Blisterman wrote: »
    I've never known an American to lose their accent.

    or canadians. i have a friend from there that i first met in 1992 and he still has a full accent


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    It depends on the person. I think people with a good ear for mimicry and also people who have a greater need to fit in do this. My dad lived all over the world and a mate once asked him why he kept his Irish accent. His answer; "never found a better one".

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


    Bloke I know went to America with a Dublin accent and came home with a Kerry accent. Work that one out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy




  • Registered Users Posts: 28,931 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Whenever I am out in a pub or a niteclub where there is loud music and the barman can't hear me, I always put on a Nortern Ireland accent and he understands me perfect.
    I'm from the Midlands btw!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    I think it depends on the person but also how and who they interact with, I know someone who's lived in America for 10-15yrs but still has a full Irish accent but the lived, worked and socialised mostly with other Irish.*

    On the other hand I know someone who lived in the UK for a few years but worked and went out with English people and picked up a slight accent fairly quick.








    *I find it really annoying when someone claims to have travelled the world and gained life experiance by going to somewhere full of Irish people and spends the whole time with other Irish people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Whenever I'm talking to an absolute pie-ball ("yeh got any chaay-nge", "no saaary bud") I always change my accent. Weird. Maybe it's a defensive thing.

    Who knows.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭petethebrick


    I don't think many people do it on purpose but I could be wrong. I pick up accents very quickly without intending to which resulted in much slagging from mates in younger days. My accent now is a curious mix having lived in several different countries with the result that now some people find it hard to judge where I'm from when first meeting them...........


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,565 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Changing Accents?

    UCD after 'The Hillas' was released.

    Since when are there so many Americans here?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Depends on how linguistically porous you are I think. Of course, you will get the odd idiot.

    I switch between Spanish and French and speak with their national brogue. Its easier to be understood if you do.

    The reason why American and Canadian accents never really change is because they dont have to do anything with it. Wheras our accent allows us to speak a lot faster, and for the same reason we are often asked to slow down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Weak people change their accents easily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭buynow


    Well the listener comes into it as well. You probably won't notice all the words that sound familiar and pick up on the ones that aren't.
    So your American or Canadian that has never lost their accent to your ears could very well have changed their accent in the ears of their families at home.
    I think people's accents neutralize as they travel and live in other places. If you have a really strong native accent, you are going to loose it more than if you are starting with something neutral.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Holsten wrote: »
    Weak people change their accents easily.

    Or strong people adapt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Hasn't changed in a year. Doubt it will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Holsten wrote: »
    Weak people change their accents easily.

    I have always thought this - Not necessarily "weak" though, moreover just easily-influenced people. I suppose you could consider yourself them the same thing...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    I'm from Dublin but lived in London for a few years and now Limerick(Don't ask!) but i've found my accent hasn't changed but has softened. I think it's mainly due to a lot of people not being able to understand what i'm saying so i started speaking more clearly (Mainly in London, I'm the one having trouble understanding down here:pac:).

    -Funk


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    My wife is American and does not have a very strong accent. Its enough for someone to think she might be Irish and lived in the US for a while.
    If she talks to another American though, she is back to her normal accent.

    I find English people have a hard time losing their accent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭Setun


    I believe the medical term is W.A.S. (Wandering Accent Syndrome)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    or canadians. i have a friend from there that i first met in 1992 and he still has a full accent

    I'm Canadian, moved here in 1996. If you were to meet me you'd most likely think I was born and raised in Kerry.

    My friend on the other hand, an American, moved here the same time as me, and still has his twang.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    my old man is from liver pool (supports evertan!) grew up a stone throw a way from the stadium had the thickist scouse accent you'd ever here, he went travelling arounf europe did bits of the hippie trail etc... any wya, his accent is unplaceable untill he laughs :D... then that thick scouse caccel i heard all my life comes through...

    My accent is very similer, irish people say i dont look irish and i dont sound very irish ....

    the acent that does get me is when polish people have an alrigh accent hilarious...:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I moved here from Manchester when I was 11, but I lost most of my accent a long time ago. It's pretty neutral now. Funnily enough, it starts to come back a little if I'm over there for a long visit. I think some people just pick up accents more quickly than others.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I have a horrible American accent as a result of too much TV, but when I'm in school I get this big skanger accent :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    my old man is from liver pool (supports evertan!) grew up a stone throw a way from the stadium had the thickist scouse accent you'd ever here, he went travelling arounf europe did bits of the hippie trail etc... any wya, his accent is unplaceable untill he laughs :D... then that thick scouse caccel i heard all my life comes through...

    My accent is very similer, irish people say i dont look irish and i dont sound very irish ....

    the acent that does get me is when polish people have an alrigh accent hilarious...:D
    It's the reverse with me .I'm originally from Dublin and living in Liverpool many years now .I meet up in my travels with fellow irishmen/women ie, around Merseyside,Lancashire,London on a regualr basis and apart from a few in London ,almost everybody including myself never lost the accent .Some of thse people would have being over here 30, 40 ,50 years to .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    latchyco wrote: »
    almost everybody including myself never lost the accent .Some of thse people would have being over here 30, 40 ,50 years to .

    My da is the same. Preserved his accent for 20+ years in Manchester, whereas my mum's faded quite a bit. He was very immersed in the Irish ex-pat community there, and worked with a lot of Irish on the building sites, so I think that - and a desire to 'stay Irish' - made it easier to keep his accent.

    Not saying that's your case, however. I think some people just do lose/pick up accents more quickly than others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    latchyco wrote: »
    It's the reverse with me .I'm originally from Dublin and living in Liverpool many years now .I meet up in my travels with fellow irishmen/women ie, around Merseyside,Lancashire,London on a regualr basis and apart from a few in London ,almost everybody including myself never lost the accent .Some of thse people would have being over here 30, 40 ,50 years to .


    nah its down to the fact that when he was in sweeden denmark people couldnt stand a word he this boohil born scousa was sayin... :) so he had to change :D...

    But i must say so my self i can do a dead ringer for a scouse accent :D......

    Nice peace of skirt dat ;):D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Pen1987 wrote: »
    Its my favourite football video ever.

    It's trow-droppingly good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    stovelid wrote: »
    My da is the same. Preserved his accent for 20+ years in Manchester, whereas my mum's faded quite a bit. He was very immersed in the Irish ex-pat community there, and worked with a lot of Irish on the building sites, so I think that - and a desire to 'stay Irish' - made it easier to keep his accent.
    I think their was and still is a larger Irish ex- pat community in Manchester .A lot who came to liverpool in the previous decades would have moved out into suburbia / Cheshire or further north /south, were ever the work was and settle .
    Not saying that's your case, however. I think some people just do lose/pick up accents more quickly than others.
    I do remember being a little self concious at first living here , not so much because my Dub accent was strong ,I can do the slang as good as anybody , but just when I spoke people would notice and curious cuz my accent was mellow and not as harsh, although I have no desire to loose it and I preserve my Irishness and accent as much as any Irish person can .
    nah its down to the fact that when he was in sweeden denmark people couldnt stand a word he this boohil born scousa was sayin... :) so he had to change :D...

    But i must say so my self i can do a dead ringer for a scouse accent :D......

    Nice peace of skirt dat ;):D
    Yeah , like remember Jan Molby at liverpool , jeeze ther was no way you would have thought he was a Dane .

    Yenowarrameen loike ? :D

    My two kids have mainly scouse accent , not to harsh with a tint of Dublin in it to ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Frisbee wrote: »
    Changing Accents?

    UCD after 'The Hillas' was released.

    Since when are there so many Americans here?

    Christ. That would be the epicenter of hell... like right up Satans hole...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,403 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    javaboy wrote: »

    Thats priceless, what a tosspot:D


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