This weeks Classic Irish bargains that i'm not buying

Capri

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Its an observation in response to another post which is itself a reply to a post about the false economy of diesels, real down the rabbit hole stuff.

that said the original article should be filed away for use the next time some muppet suggests putting a diesel conversion in a classic to save a few bob

My point exactly - IF you had a smashed diesel GTD Golf for example, and you had a Passat B1 with a 1300 engine, and plenty of time, it would make an interesting conversion, and possibly be quicker off the mark. But to buy say a Caprice 454 7.4L V8 and then consider putting in diesel with all the hassle and time wasted just to 'save' on running costs would be mad, but that's the attitude of some in Ireland - they just see one 'saving', not the overall cost of the project. (Bit like those who go to the UK to 'save' on the cost of buying a motor here, IF you take - days off work / ferry and travel/hotel expenses, and the possibility that Revenue might actually charge you more than you thought - is it still a 'bargain' ?? )

RobAMerc

ot lads - I come here to get away from talk of mpg and reliability that seems to be the theme in every other forum on here.

this is about buying stuff coz it silly but a bargain.

Esel

type85 wrote: »

Well folks doing the Math... a person doing 20,000 miles a year....

We are all well capable of doing those hard sums.

However, that is not the point of this particular thread diversion...

Tzar Chasm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/b-m-w-635-850-coupe/7743493

back on topic, heres a lad with a BMW fetish.

that 850 is a lot of car for the money.

Capri

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/b-m-w-635-850-coupe/7743493

back on topic, heres a lad with a BMW fetish.

that 850 is a lot of car for the money.

Let's try a 'digital remaster' on his ad to see if makes sense -

88/635 csi metallic black.grey leather.New Alpina whls&tyres cost (2200)All new elect incl Airflow mtr 3.5 straight 6 magic to drive l
w blue mohair hood ,cream leather.(M)bits .MANUAL.3,950. 318i (M) Rare. 60,000 miles.Metalic blue Matching interior.CONVERTIBL Manual 3,950 850 csi V12 5LTR COUPE .91,000 mls.All the Goodies incl ESR mile. EATER .BARGIAN 4,500 840 CSI/COUPE V8 4.4 ltr Ancillio eng All E XtRAS 4.500.MUST PART WITH ALL AS IM LEAVING .LESS THAN 200 /8 SERIES IN UK (No Tx) 087-1327075 Kildare/NAAS

88 635 Csi metallic black.grey leather.New Alpina wheels/tyres (cost 2200)All new electrics incl Airflow mtr 3.5 straight 6 magic to drive l (4,500?)

(3 series?) w blue mohair hood ,cream leather.(M)bits .MANUAL.3,950.

318i (M) Rare. 60,000 miles.Metalic blue Matching interior.
CONVERTIBLE Manual 3,950

850 csi V12 5LTR COUPE .91,000 mls.All the Goodies incl ESR mile. EATER .BARGIAN 4,500

840 CSI/COUPE V8 4.4 ltr Ancillio eng All E XtRAS 4.500.

MUST PART WITH ALL AS IM LEAVING .

LESS THAN 200 8 SERIES IN UK (No Tx) 087-1327075 Kildare/NAAS


(Saw a chap in the US comparing putting an ad on Craigslist and on Autotrader - no response from autotrader ad in 2 weeks, sold off Craigslist in 4 days - wonder who's on top for sales here DD / Advers.ie / Gumtree / Carzone ?? )

Tzar Chasm

I would say its done deal, in the last few years of car buying at home I have bought 2 cars off adverts, but the rest of the family have bought and sold 9 cars on DD.
I'd say thats a repeating pattern nationally.

currently there are 803 classic listings on adverts, a lot of which are listings for services, and 1792 listings on done deal, mostof which are actual vehicles

11wingnut

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1964-MERCEDES-BENZ-W111-220Sebc-Auto-Sunroof-Coupe-LHD-/151412170939?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item
Was Irish. MercMad cold replace his old one

_ptashek_

DoneDeal link: /vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-w123-e230/7744333
(can't post the full URL, gee, thanks Boards!)

Went to see the car yesterday.
It's a mid-spec, early 1982, 230E with steel rims, hubcaps and cloth interior.

It's a reasonably recent re-spray, but poorly executed with overspray galore (e.g. paint smudges on door trim, or hardened overflow on door bottoms). Doors and sills look healthy enough, except the driver side front lever point which has rust bubbles around it. There's one small sealant crack on the passenger side sill, around the B-pillar, and there's some rust underneath. The rear wheel arches need work as mentioned in the ad, and so does the left trunk floor (not much, but still).

The driver side hood hinge is held in place by its spring only, and the mount point has rusted out around the hinge shaft. In the other corner, there's a approx. 25x25mm rust-through opposite the hinge mount point. Floors, including carpets, looked dry and healthy but then again it hasn't rained and there's the infamous MB sound deadening - it's an uncertainty top side. Bottom side floor panels appeared in good order, without any suspect bubbling or cracks on the sealant.

The engine bay is generally the low point of the car, and the engine in particular. It has serious blow-by, so much actually that as soon as you lift the oil cap it us spurting oil all over the rocker cover. It's also leaking under the rocker cover seal, which is more likely than not due to the overpressure. It's either the valve stem seals, or piston rings. A compression test should give a definite answer.

Oil pressure at idle, on a warm engine, was at the M102 spec low point of 0.3bar. Given the blow-by and this, my hopes for the longevity of that engine are not high. There's also a leak around the transmission oil pan seal. The exhaust manifold needs new gaskets, as mentioned in the ad.

The inside was quite good but dirty. Should come around nicely with a few hours of careful cleaning. Wood trim looked OK. Haven't checked any of the interior equipment for correct operation.

I've checked the car on cartell.ie and it comes back clean, including mileage (~182k miles). Haven't checked the accompanying documentation.

I haven't driven the car, giving up on it as soon as I've seen the blow-by, so no opinion on that part. The seller was happy to give me as much time as I needed for the inspection, and basically left me to it - major thumbs up on that part, as it's fairly uncommon.

Not really a bargain with that asking price, but probably negotiable.

H.E. Pennypacker

This one's up for sale again - looks like it didn't sell last time.

I've always wanted one but lacked the courage to buy one I could afford and the money to buy a good one.... Starting to think life is too short not to though...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/jensen-interceptor-mark-3-irish-car/7778781

Capri

Interesting, is there a new trend we haven't heard about :rolleyes:

http://www.v8van.com/

Odyssey 2005

Capri wrote: »

Interesting, is there a new trend we haven't heard about :rolleyes:

http://www.v8van.com/

These have been around for years. Sean Newman in Ashbourne drove these and many other American beasts (both ugly and beautiful ) when it wasn't cool to do so. Does anyone remember Hayes on Hill St in Dublin.?💲

Capri

I KNOW they've been around for years, had 2 myself (*%$*£ to do the spark plugs on :mad: ) , but what this guy seems to be promoting is the 70's -ness of them, nevermind that most won't touch them because they're not 'daysel' :rolleyes:

Joe HEADON was 'the man' in US cars here up on Hill St , remember he sold me a Valiant wagon telling me 'the brakes need doin' ' - bl**ding vise grip crimping the flexihose He had a huge stock of spares up in the attic if you needed something - but it'd take all day rummiging to find what you wanted :rolleyes:

CianDon

Not sure if this classes as a 'bargain' at nearly €70k but it would tempt you into taking a second look at the few in half decent shape left around the place as seems like the value is skyrocketing. Sold at auction for €41K only 2 weeks ago.......and she not an original reg. But still, shes in great nick

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-landcruiser-3-1-litre-diesel/7790401

Esel

^ Definitely not a 'she'; could not look more macho - apart from the colour (what shade of yellow is that? It does not match my overall theme).

Do she float? Do she be a boat? A female goat? Be she in foal, or in calf? Be ye a cap'n - even a scurvy lad?

'She' better be the 'it' I want (very much) before I call and say she/her with abandon. I would normally use gender-neutral terms as much as possible, like: the engine, the body, the wheels/tyres, the handling; the brakes.

But if I wanted 'her', I could be as much a throwback as the seller. "What will you let 'her' go at?" and guff like that.

To me, only (and even then only maybe) a boat is female. Aaaarrrgh!

Edit: Simpsons Sea Captain here.

Seweryn

CianDon wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-landcruiser-3-1-litre-diesel/7790401

Two door SUV. Oh yeah...

Capri

CianDon wrote: »

Not sure if this classes as a 'bargain' at nearly €70k but it would tempt you into taking a second look at the few in half decent shape left around the place as seems like the value is skyrocketing. Sold at auction for €41K only 2 weeks ago.......and she not an original reg. But still, shes in great nick

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-landcruiser-3-1-litre-diesel/7790401

The 'value' is not skyrocketing, someone's hoping to flip it and make €28k - the 'Tiger' is back with a bang again :mad:. Even if I had my €84million Euromillions win , I WOULD NOT pay that for a BJ/FJ40 and the old saying of 'Fools and their money.....' springs to mind here for this BJ40 :rolleyes:

Swedish one £16k http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C537152

UK/(Jap ? ) £20k http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C523480

Holland €12k http://www.hofman.nl/auto/12709

California $16k http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/4655294888.html

ronaneire

Capri wrote: »

The 'value' is not skyrocketing, someone's hoping to flip it and make €28k - the 'Tiger' is back with a bang again :mad:. Even if I had my €84million Euromillions win , I WOULD NOT pay that for a BJ/FJ40 and the old saying of 'Fools and their money.....' springs to mind here for this BJ40 :rolleyes:

Swedish one £16k http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C537152

UK/(Jap ? ) £20k http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C523480

Holland €12k http://www.hofman.nl/auto/12709

California $16k http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/4655294888.html

Agreed. It actually sold for 42k plus 10% buyers fee. It is believed that McCabes spent 68K having it restored. http://www.lcoc.ie/showthread.php?299-Restored-Bj-40

He maybe waiting a long time to get near the asking price :eek:

cruizer101

Posted in the luxobarge thread in motors but thought might belong in here also.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rolls-royce-silver-shadow/7529443

78 Honey Gold Silver Shadow €5,950.

Looks lovely, a bit of me be tempted to buy it and use for 6 months just to say I owned a Roller.

w124man

Paddy Connelly really knows how to take the piss! He had a white E220 Cab that he had way over priced and it was a right bucket!!

Capri

w124man wrote: »

Paddy Connelly really knows how to take the piss! He had a white E220 Cab that he had way over priced and it was a right bucket!!

A lot of these 'dealers' seem to think the bling times never went away - 'leave it there and some fool will show up' :cool:

Compare US market stuff here, the prices are high but the quality is there

1973 Interceptor SIII 440ci V8 http://www.ebay.com/itm/221565307636?item=221565307636&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia Syncro http://www.ebay.com/itm/131309649444?item=131309649444&pt=US_Cars_Trucks#ht_690wt_1019

1983 BMW 320is http://www.ebay.com/itm/161436555016?item=161436555016&pt=US_Cars_Trucks#ht_1606wt_1019

1984 Mercedes Benz 280CE http://www.ebay.com/itm/261609501127

Chevette 427 (my favourite !!! :eek: ) http://www.ebay.com/itm/331330068884#ht_500wt_1019

VW181 http://bringatrailer.com/2014/10/03/baja-spec-upgraded-1973-volkswagen-thing-181/

http://bringatrailer.com/

rugbyman

Capri,
i was about to comment that the USA Jensen was cheap, that that amount would not restore one, then I noticed ,the 17k $ was only the current bid!!

Beautiful though

unfit2006

^^^^ Haha same here. Lovely looking car .

w124man

Capri wrote: »

1986 Volkswagen Vanagon Westfalia Syncro http://www.ebay.com/itm/131309649444?item=131309649444&pt=US_Cars_Trucks#ht_690wt_1019

Believe it or not that price is about right for a Syncro Westy.

Capri

w124man wrote: »

Believe it or not that price is about right for a Syncro Westy.

They'd want to keep a check on the fuel lines otherwise... :eek:
http://syncro.org/recent-syncro-disasters/

shagman

Capri wrote: »

Interesting, is there a new trend we haven't heard about :rolleyes:

http://www.v8van.com/

This is a friend of mines site, a sound polish guy from Kerry who is mad into his american vans like meself. Here's mine before I took her off the road for restoration and in her present state in primer.
Full build thread here.
http://www.vanning.com/threads/ubbthreads.php/topics/403571/1

w124man

Yeah, too many owners forget the basics. The Syncro has a plastic fuel tank in the rear over the transmission and all the breathers are routed across the top and get blocked very easily and blow backs and tank pressure are common, plus these vehicles are getting old!

Capri

This is a friend of mines site, a sound polish guy from Kerry who is mad into his american vans like meself

I reckoned he wasn't Irish because nobody here would start a business selling petrol V8 vans - good luck to him, but don't say he wasn't warned about the 'Daysel or nuttin' ' attitude here.

Yeah, too many owners forget the basics. The Syncro has a plastic fuel tank in the rear over the transmission and all the breathers are routed across the top and get blocked very easily and blow backs and tank pressure are common, plus these vehicles are getting old!

You always see that on Mike Brewers show - first thing is clean out and renew pipework

MercMad

11wingnut wrote: »

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1964-MERCEDES-BENZ-W111-220Sebc-Auto-Sunroof-Coupe-LHD-/151412170939?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item
Was Irish. MercMad cold replace his old one

.........that's actually the one I sold back for sale again !

shagman

Capri wrote: »

I reckoned he wasn't Irish because nobody here would start a business selling petrol V8 vans - good luck to him, but don't say he wasn't warned about the 'Daysel or nuttin' ' attitude here.

There are diesel Chevysand GMCs out there. 6.2 litre diesels that is delivering around 25mpg.

Capri

shagman wrote: »

There are diesel Chevysand GMCs out there. 6.2 litre diesels that is delivering around 25mpg.

I know, had a 99 6.6TD Suburban , it's still around along with a diesel Seville - same guy, Mihai, owned both at one time. Bought the Sub off me, and imported the Seville from US (it's for sale ATM )