Bangernomics car of the week/day

unkel

The main Rover dealer (and one with the best reputation in the Dublin area) told me 2 years ago that my car had HGF

I have an invoice to prove it!

Twas just lazy diagnostics based purely on the fact that the coolant was not great and the fact that I mentioned the car overheated once a few weeks previously

After a bit of research I reckoned my coolant temp sensor might have been dodgy. Bought a new one (BMW part ) for €15 delivered and the problem was sorted

Mentioning the K-series engine triggers an immediate pavlov reaction of "HGF!" in pretty much anybody. Punters in the pub and qualified mechanics alike

Nissan doctor

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Ok yes if the HG is just weeping a little oil externally like the can do on these and PSA engines then no, you don't need to have it skimmed. But that type of HG failure is in the vast minority.

... don't they lose coolant too though in cases, not uncommon without ever getting to cooking territory if the owner is a coolant checker. THe t series was more inclined to do the external oil weep.

Saab Ed

Some cool bangernomics .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2767027



DL plate probably suggests its a clocked ,rusty, ringer that was once an insurance right off ......but what the hell hey!

Esel

Quazzie wrote: »

Have you tried to click the image?

What do you think?

brophy wrote: »

"Esel" that's a live image click it will bring ya to the dondeal page for the car with more images.

Not a live image from my end....

Trojan wrote: »

It'd be useful for boards, and for us web geeks who are interested in these things, to know exactly what specs you guys are having trouble clicking through to the ads on. Are you experiencing problems on desktops, or is it on mobile (particularly touch?)? What OS and browser combos?

Desktop: Windows XP, Firefox 8.0.1
Laptop: Windows Vista, Firefox 8.0.1

barura

Esel wrote: »

What do you think?

Not a live image from my end....

Desktop: Windows XP, Firefox 8.0.1
Laptop: Windows Vista, Firefox 8.0.1

What add ons are you using in firefox?

Meanwhile, Polo with NCT and tax, 450. A phone call would find out the rest.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2768195

JJJJNR

Saab Ed wrote: »

Some cool bangernomics .....

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2767027



DL plate probably suggests its a clocked ,rusty, ringer that was once an insurance right off ......but what the hell hey!

For a grand more you could have this.

Personal fav of mine.

MidnightQueen

barura wrote: »

What add ons are you using in firefox?

Meanwhile, Polo with NCT and tax, 450. A phone call would find out the rest.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2768195

Thats really good actually but whats wrong with it i wonder. Saw a white one with no nct for €700 http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2738513

JJJJNR

JJJJNR wrote: »

For a grand more you could have this.

Personal fav of mine.

With the superstrut suspension no NCT is a worry though. Great cars though.

barura

KittyKat wrote: »

Thats really good actually but whats wrong with it i wonder. Saw a white one with no nct for €700 http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2738513

Lasy advertiser, I'd say. I drive a Polo I got for 350 with 9 months NCT that I got a few months back. Bit of rust but nothing really exceptional. It will last me til March at least, and hopefully longer if not much work needs to be done for the NCT.

Anywho, 700 for that car? You'd probably beat them down on the price to 450 if it has no NCT. 500 at the most. Those engines go forever (999cc not the 1043cc!), but noone likes em for some reason.

Esel

barura wrote: »

What add ons are you using in firefox?

Meanwhile, Polo with NCT and tax, 450. A phone call would find out the rest.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2768195

About 21 add-ons - too many to list, and don't want to derail the thread any further. Can't see any of them being the problem, though.

For instance, your pic link above works fine, because it opens a page with a 'Click here to return to ad' link.

A simple link to a .jpg though, like many posted here, just opens the JPG and there is no way to 'click back' to anything....

THanks for caring, btw!

MidnightQueen

barura wrote: »

Lasy advertiser, I'd say. I drive a Polo I got for 350 with 9 months NCT that I got a few months back. Bit of rust but nothing really exceptional. It will last me til March at least, and hopefully longer if not much work needs to be done for the NCT.

Anywho, 700 for that car? You'd probably beat them down on the price to 450 if it has no NCT. 500 at the most. Those engines go forever (999cc not the 1043cc!), but noone likes em for some reason.

Sound for the info. Id say you would make a profit on the polo if you sell it on next year. Anyones thoughts on this one?
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2433350

JJJJNR

RoverJames wrote: »

With the superstrut suspension no NCT is a worry though. Great cars though.

*car has nct but no tax

barura

Esel wrote: »

About 21 add-ons - too many to list, and don't want to derail the thread any further. Can't see any of them being the problem, though.

For instance, your pic link above works fine, because it opens a page with a 'Click here to return to ad' link.

A simple link to a .jpg though, like many posted here, just opens the JPG and there is no way to 'click back' to anything....

THanks for caring, btw!

21 add ons will more than likely break clicking an image to be honest. I use adblock plus and I can't use adverts.ie without disabling it. Just some food for thought!

Bet you use greasemonkey, right? :P

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2768399

Nice diesel motoring, could bargin a few shillings off as well I'd bet.

barura

KittyKat wrote: »

Sound for the info. Id say you would make a profit on the polo if you sell it on next year. Anyones thoughts on this one?
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2433350

Get the car for 500euro, sell off the alloys and get 4 new tyres on steelies to replace it, NCT, pretty snazzy motoring there if you ask me!

MidnightQueen

Thanks for the info! I love this thread!

cloneslad

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2759353?cid=2759353&

NCT 11-2012. Seems clean enough, but no mention of mileage.

€595

MidnightQueen

Rarely see 3 door astras. I noticed the toyota passenger seat. The fecker has the steering wheel blocking the speedo in the pic so cant see the mileage. Looks really clean alright!

cloneslad

If I knew it would last a few months without any hassle, I'd make them an offer on it and sell it on again in march or so when I leave this isle again.

Trojan

Esel wrote: »

What do you think?

Not a live image from my end....

Desktop: Windows XP, Firefox 8.0.1
Laptop: Windows Vista, Firefox 8.0.1

No problems here. Start Firefox in "Firefox Safe Mode" and see if you still get those symptoms. I'm guessing it's the extensions.

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I know ~0 about cars, but even I know that Rovers are well known for HGF

My uncle's 440 (I think that's the right model) blew it after 3 or 4 years.

Trojan

Trojan wrote: »

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I know ~0 about cars, but even I know that Rovers are well known for HGF

My uncle's 440 (I think that's the right model) blew it after 3 or 4 years.

It wasn't a 440 anyway
It might have been a 414, 414, 418 or a 420.

If owners are anyway mechanically sympathetic they would notice either a coolant loss or the temp gauge rising and the damage would be minimal.

Root cause can often be a leaking inlet manifold or water pump that results in coolant loss and then a cooked engine. HG gets the blame straight away, it's often not that clearcut. The K series doesn't like being cooked.

The way folks blab on about Rovers being well known for HG failure many folk reckon that every one of the Ks is likely to fail tomorrow.

Nissan doctor

As above, as on most cars, the head gasket failure is a SYMPTOM of other issues which the owner has failed to address.

A family friend has a 00 rover 25 from new and its now in or around the 100k mark with no issues at all....but then he's the type that will be out on a sunday morning topping up levels etc

si_guru

Nissan doctor wrote: »

A family friend has a 00 rover 25 from new and its now in or around the 100k mark with no issues at all....but then he's the type that will be out on a sunday morning topping up levels etc

[humour] Well if it is a K-series.. he'll be out Monday morning too. ..and Tuesday, Wednesday... [/humour]

_Conrad_

cloneslad wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2759353?cid=2759353&

NCT 11-2012. Seems clean enough, but no mention of mileage.

€595

You're concerned about mileage on a 97 astra that you'd be hoping t get for €500 or less as pretty much a throwaway car? That's nuts....

Trojan

That jigs the memory - it was a 414. His brother in law got an identical car - they got a deal - both of them had HG issues around the same time.

Anyway, I digress, apologies for pulling thread off-topic. I know it's on the edge of the bangernomics ideal with over €1k and no test/tax:



2003 MG ZR 1.4L Petrol 5 door
No tax or NCT
75k miles
Head Gasket and water pump, timing belt have all been replaced. (have receipt)

€1,200

http://www.adverts.ie/car/mg/zr/2003-mg-zr-for-sale/1146372

_Conrad_

_Conrad_ wrote: »

You're concerned about mileage on a 97 astra that you'd be hoping t get for €500 or less as pretty much a throwaway car? That's nuts....

Bangernomics, it's not for everyone.

cadaliac

_Conrad_ wrote: »

You're concerned about mileage on a 97 astra that you'd be hoping t get for €500 or less as pretty much a throwaway car? That's nuts....

No its's not.
If the car has 220,000 miles I wouldn't bother my ass with it.
If it had 120,000 miles on it - it would be a dinger at that price.

Whether or not you like it. It does matter.

To me personally, it would be down to the condition of the car. After all there is a threshold or life span of an engine and car. 200k is about it for most imo.

Nixer Jim

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2710209


Now back to my lunch. It's sunny in Dublin you know.

dgt

Yoke for the winter?

This yoke



NCT till end of Jan. 400 notes

Bravo



Seems too cheap...

This Volvo

voojeq

RoverJames wrote: »

IF a k series hadn't overheated why skim it? K series specialists don't recommend skimming them unless the car overheated, many k series cars have had head gasket weeps spotted by the owner and the head sorted without skimming being required.

True, I don't see the point in skimming undamaged head, its good to go as long as it hasn't been damaged because of the heat (overheat event), that's why it's vital to keep your fluids on top levels in sports cars like mg and honda.

Small advice, if you're engine overheated and you're about to do the head gasket and the head itself, do some measurements on the engine block, heat is a powerful force that can bend any metal as it turns out =]

sorry for offtopic btw

cloneslad

_Conrad_ wrote: »

You're concerned about mileage on a 97 astra that you'd be hoping t get for €500 or less as pretty much a throwaway car? That's nuts....

I was just stating that the mileage wasn't given for those who can't be bothered clicking links.

Me? I'm not overly concerned (depending on just how high the mileage is), If it was well over 200k then I'd be worried because it's being driven around monaghan, where the roads are pretty bad, so not only will the engine have problems, so will various other parts.

€500 is nothing for a car, but it would still be €500 lost should the car decide to die after a week or so.