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Do People Ignore/Have People Forgotten Pantera
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Motley Crue wrote: »Vinne Paul in a band called Hellyeah (which, lets face it, isnt going anywhere)
That made me sad, I actually like Hellyeah.
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ShawnRaven wrote: »That made me sad, I actually like Hellyeah.
Im sure they make a lot of people happy, and have some dedicated fans, but I would imagine their sound is not enough to deter people from the fact that they will always be seen as simply a Pantera tribute act for Vinne to spend his time in.
Correct me if I am wrong, I genuinely don't know, but I don't think they have ever done any tours outside the US? So I would imagine that, unlike Down, the band themselves are never going to be considered a groundbreaking act. I could be wrong, but unless Vinne Paul really reinvents himself - which he is unlikely and would be unwise to do - then Hellyeah is as far as its gonna go.0 -
Karl Hungus wrote: »What's wrong with Lamb of God?
Nothing wrong but also nothing special
sad but true - like metallica plays
anyway, it's hard to be original or special these days so I don't blame them...0 -
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I still listen to Pantera on a daily basis, lol
Usually listening to music all day in work and a few Pantera songs always get played.
Pantera were the band that got me into metal all them years ago and i dont think i will ever not listen to them. Even if i wanted to get away from Pantera i couldn't caus i have a small cfh logo in the middle of a tattoo on my upper right arm
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What makes you say that?
reality?
compare a number of a bands that exist in the world, to the number of the ones that are known well, and have something original - there's maybe hundreds of them but there's a billions of clones that play almost same thing...
it's not only my opinion
if you read music market annual reports and top labels reviews, their bosses and management say the same - time that there was a lot of money to take when you're original and make good music, has gone and it will not return...
unfortunately there's a limited range of sound that we can detect using our ears and even if there's a millions of combinations it's limited;
the more new sounds created - the less original music's left
you can agree or not but that's reality0 -
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To be fair, it's in the record companies interests to ensure that the music-consuming public think there's a lack of originality out there these days. If the general public only sees what's in the charts as a reflection of the music that's available then the record companies can charge what they like. It reminds me of the way that DeBeers artificially inflate the price of diamonds to ensure that they can charge ridiculous prices for them.compare a number of a bands that exist in the world, to the number of the ones that are known well, and have something original - there's maybe hundreds of them but there's a billions of clones that play almost same thing...
it's not only my opinion
if you read music market annual reports and top labels reviews, their bosses and management say the same - time that there was a lot of money to take when you're original and make good music, has gone and it will not return...
unfortunately there's a limited range of sound that we can detect using our ears and even if there's a millions of combinations it's limited;
the more new sounds created - the less original music's left
you can agree or not but that's reality
If you tune into Scuzz or Kerrang or whatever on your television you'll see a consistent similarity between the music on a lot of the videos but here's the thing: There's a whole world of music out there! There's easily more music being recorded and released over the Internet in any given day than you could possible hope to listen to in your entire life.
Lastly, you say that there's a limited range of sounds that can be detected by the human ear. You're absolutely right but that's like saying that painters from the Renaissance used up loads of the available colours so painters these days are "clones that paint almost the same thing".
I have no idea if you're musical or not but if you can, contrast the difference between a simple chord progression like C-Am-Dm-G on, for example a 7 string electric guitar with distortion applied and the same chord progression played on an acoustic guitar. Now add some strings and/or bass. There are a lot of sonic possibilities just there before you even start looking at percussion or the tempo of the music.
Anyway, apologies for going way off-topic!
Back on-topic: I guess people have forgotten Damageplan since no one responded when I mentioned them 0 -
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To be fair, it's in the record companies interests to ensure that the music-consuming public think there's a lack of originality out there these days. If the general public only sees what's in the charts as a reflection of the music that's available then the record companies can charge what they like. It reminds me of the way that DeBeers artificially inflate the price of diamonds to ensure that they can charge ridiculous prices for them.
If you tune into Scuzz or Kerrang or whatever on your television you'll see a consistent similarity between the music on a lot of the videos but here's the thing: There's a whole world of music out there! There's easily more music being recorded and released over the Internet in any given day than you could possible hope to listen to in your entire life.
Lastly, you say that there's a limited range of sounds that can be detected by the human ear. You're absolutely right but that's like saying that painters from the Renaissance used up loads of the available colours so painters these days are "clones that paint almost the same thing".
I have no idea if you're musical or not but if you can, contrast the difference between a simple chord progression like C-Am-Dm-G on, for example a 7 string electric guitar with distortion applied and the same chord progression played on an acoustic guitar. Now add some strings and/or bass. There are a lot of sonic possibilities just there before you even start looking at percussion or the tempo of the music.
Anyway, apologies for going way off-topic!
Back on-topic: I guess people have forgotten Damageplan since no one responded when I mentioned them
I agree with you but it changes almost nothing in what I said - you just extended that and told it different way unfortunately it's an era of plastic sounds, worthless sounds seen on tv and other apocalyptic things...
My idea is that even in the whole music world out there it's hard to find something new even if it is there - it's like looking for a red grain inside a huge bowl of other white ones, in the dark
I can say I'm an amateur musician, I played some gigs, I was a hundreds of times on a different contests to listen to new generation and some older bands to find something I would like to hear as a new. Of course I've found some but it's like 1:1000 or worse. These days it's easier to start an amateur band - there are pros and cons:
-easier way for originals to widen their horizons, move a wings, try to achieve something
-easier way for fakes, copybands and other sh*** to spread all over the world and dim these mentioned above
I know that record companies think about money and what's trendy,
but there are also record labels that promote originals and they say same thing
Regarding painting and colours against music and notes there's a lot of truth in what you said but can't compare it closely as it's very very different kind of art and a different rules - that's why they're separate worlds of vision and listening - both keep you whole, and each keep you feel different way...0 -
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Fair enough so.
Seriously though, we could have a debate on this in another thread but I think we'd just end up agreeing with each other and where's the fun in that?
fun is when people understand each other
not fighting by arguments
anyway a good discussion is still a piece of nice time spent with a little bit of challenge0 -
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