psa licence for cctv

dufferman

do you need a licence to install cctv? i didnt think that was the case untill the end of 2009

antoinolachtnai

ring them up and ask them about it. I think you are right (they may not have the register in place) but I don't know for sure.

dufferman

antoinolachtnai wrote: »

ring them up and ask them about it. I think you are right (they may not have the register in place) but I don't know for sure.

i have tryed ringing them loads of times but all i get is an answering machine. they are the biggest crowd of a**holes, makin things akward for us tradesmen who are trying to make an honest living and providing a vital service to our local community. why should you need a licence to install alarms and cctv. they make it so hard to get the licence, ud nearly want a week off work to organise all the paper work, and the cost of it is a joke.

KoolKid

Why should you need a licence to install alarms and cctv.

Because its the law
I dont like having to pay TV licence, drivers licence,dog licence ,etc but thats life.
The industry badly needs the regulation
But For the moment CCTV is not regulated & you do not need a licence.

They make it so hard to get the licence, ud nearly want a week off work to organise all the paper work, and the cost of it is a joke.

If you are looking for a licence you are clearly going the wrong way about it. Contact the NSAI they will help you out. Also contact Bell Communications & ask them to send you the SR40 pack that will help you a lot. As for the cost being a joke, it is based on your turnover. If you find it a lot of work now , you are going to struggle with the everyday running of your business. There are a lot of procedures involved.

sig226

dufferman, PM sent!

Jnealon

Draft guidelines for cctv are on the psa site. I would expect them to be introduced later this year

KoolKid

Thats the plan anyway. Whether it stays on schedule................

fred funk }{

Do any of you lads know if they're going to charge us another 2250 Euro?
I think if they try there will be plenty of companies that will just not pay. That would be 4500 every two years! Its hard enough to get by these days without that. I wouldn't mind paying for the certification but if the PSA try to charge us for another licence it will be nothing short of theft.

KoolKid

It will be very difficult for those company's who only do the odd CCTV installation

ferguson

It will be very difficult for those company's who only do the odd CCTV installation

then they should not do it. If they canot afford to register and be licenced then do not offer that service. It is presumably to stop cowboys

KoolKid

If it becomes law , ofcourse unlicenced operators should not be installing.
Whether it stops the cowboys or not remains to be seen.

2011

On the domestic end of things IP cameras seem very popular now with lots of people doing DIY installs in their own homes. Cameras also seem to be getting cheaper and the average person is much more technically minded in now.

For more commercial installations I think that the most complex part off CCTV installation and design is selecting the correct equipment.

Buford T Justice

ferguson wrote: »

then they should not do it. If they canot afford to register and be licenced then do not offer that service. It is presumably to stop cowboys

Thats a stupid excuse. There's no reason why a competent certified person shouldn't install cctv systems only because the do one every few weeks. Its not their fault there's another quango set up in this country to sucker in more dosh

altor

I hope it does come in this year, seeing power supplies over heating and cables put in any way is a disgrace. Hopefully with some regulation then that will stop them installing but it is going to be a hard job for the PSA to police.

KoolKid

Fingers McGee wrote: »

There's no reason why a competent certified person shouldn't install cctv systems only because the do one every few weeks. Its not their fault there's another quango set up in this country to sucker in more dosh

The fact that it would be illegal if they are not licenced is a good enough reason.

Jnealon

How would you define a competent person, maybe somebody who could change a plug.
Installing cctv is not just a matter of point and shoot, anyone who has completed proper training will tell you that.
The sooner EN50132 becomes a requirement for CCTV installations the better.
Only last week did I see a monitored cctv system installed by a "competent person" fail.
Result, a number of commercial units were broken in to without detection.

Thunderbird2

am i right in saying this...it is ok to install ur own house alarm....it is ok to install an alarm for your friend or neighbour once no money is transfered for the labour???

altor

Thunderbird2 wrote: »

am i right in saying this...it is ok to install ur own house alarm....it is ok to install an alarm for your friend or neighbour once no money is transfered for the labour???

Thats correct.

Thunderbird2

thanks altor....what about if its to be installed on a rented property?? we had a problem with a prowler only last week ...the neighbour isnt feeling to good about it and the landlord is refusing to get an alrm so she asked me what wud be the best option...ie dummy box..wire up a bellbox so the lights alternate or buy the securewave starter pack and do a wire/wireless alarm

altor

Thunderbird2 wrote: »

thanks altor....what about if its to be installed on a rented property?? we had a problem with a prowler only last week ...the neighbour isnt feeling to good about it and the landlord is refusing to get an alrm so she asked me what wud be the best option...ie dummy box..wire up a bellbox so the lights alternate or buy the securewave starter pack and do a wire/wireless alarm

It is illegal to employ a non-registered contractor to install an alarm, if your not getting paid to install the alarm there should be no problem.

Thunderbird2

but i cant be employed anyway because im not 16.weird i know.im 15 and can install security systems and wire sockets.gates.ect:)

Elewis

Does a RECI approved qualified electrician also need to have a PSA licence to instal security cameras or security gates. There was some talk about this a few months ago but has it come into effect?

KoolKid

For CCTV yes...

altor

Elewis wrote: »

Does a RECI approved qualified electrician also need to have a PSA licence to instal security cameras or security gates. There was some talk about this a few months ago but has it come into effect?

Here you go

Seamus1964

What about calving camera systems / farm cameras
Do you still need to check installer PSA licence or that's more simplified ?

KoolKid

Is it a self install /DIY or a professional system permanently in place?

Seamus1964

Cheap semi - professional system permanently in place : camera kit bought by me but installed by somebody else ( local handyman - sat tv engineer - electrician ) ?

KoolKid

In the instance your installer is acting illegally.
He needs to be PSA licenced.
You are also breaking the law if you employ an unlicensed installer.

KoolKid

If it's just a calving camera with no aspect on security then it does not require a licenced installer.