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Jameson 12yo -v- 18yo

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  • 24-01-2009 5:43pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭


    So .. my mate says the 18yo stuff is better. My Dad says the 12yo stuff is gods gift.

    Which is it? Why? I'm still developing my love of the stuff, so interested to hear from some seasoned pro's :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    I have never had the 18 year old myself, just the 12 year old.
    That said, i would rather have their Redbreast 12 year old than the Jameson brand.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I had a few glasses of the 18 yo last night and it was absolutely the best whiskey I have ever ever tasted. I have a bottle of 12 yo too but haven't opened it yet. I'm looking forward to it though.:D


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,505 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    I'd like to try more of the jamesons, particularly the Vintage Reserve, but the problem is they are too expensive.

    At the end of the day it all comes down to individual tastes, and if you prefer cheaper whiskeys then who is anyone else to say what is right.

    The best thing to do is to try both of them (if you can), and as Saruman says, try the Redbreast.

    Another thing you might want to do is start off with the cheaper or mid-range whiskies and then decide what you like. A good selection would be Jameson 12, Powers 12, Greenspot, Redbreast 12, Bushmills 10 & Greenore 8. You could buy any 3 of them for less than 1 bottle of Jameson 18, probably 4 if you were careful and/or shopped up north.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    I've tried both but only briefly. I'm not sure I noticed the difference but maybe I didn't have enough.

    They did feel like they gave more of a kick and more of that warm feeling though.. which is good !


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    i split a litre bottle of 12yearold last night with a mate. Im dying.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,505 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Random wrote: »
    I've tried both but only briefly. I'm not sure I noticed the difference but maybe I didn't have enough.

    They did feel like they gave more of a kick and more of that warm feeling though.. which is good !

    If you didn't notice the difference, drink the 12 year old. Once you've had a few of them, you will start to notice the differences in the 18 y.o.


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    I prefer the 18, but for the difference in price, I'd take the 12.

    The Jameson Vintage Reserve is better again. Much fuller flavour. Not worth the money, though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    zuroph wrote: »
    i split a litre bottle of 12yearold last night with a mate. Im dying.

    Agh that was a waste of Whiskey!

    If you are going to drink to get wasted then get some cheap ass stuff and waste it. A 12 year old should last a few weeks at least.

    I have a bottle of Middleton i break out every now and again and it is pure pleasure every time. Well worth the money as it is something that will last and i can share with whiskey drinking guests on the rare occasion someone visits my house.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Saruman wrote: »
    Agh that was a waste of Whiskey!

    If you are going to drink to get wasted then get some cheap ass stuff and waste it. A 12 year old should last a few weeks at least.

    I have a bottle of Middleton i break out every now and again and it is pure pleasure every time. Well worth the money as it is something that will last and i can share with whiskey drinking guests on the rare occasion someone visits my house.
    I know, I'm very annoyed now, but it was coming home from town, offered a night cap to my mates, and before u know it the bottle was gone. :( I'll pick one up again next month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 744 ✭✭✭getoffthepot


    Brockagh wrote: »
    I prefer the 18, but for the difference in price, I'd take the 12.

    The Jameson Vintage Reserve is better again. Much fuller flavour. Not worth the money, though.

    £199 in Manchester Airport. Good price. Probably same price in all UK airports.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭shanel23


    Got a bottle of the new Jameson Signatory reserve in an airport shop last week - not bad - but I think Jameson like the all the best marketing machines are producing so many desinger whiskies in their range that it getting difficult to distinguish between them all.

    On the above - I prefer the 18yr old but would happily drink the 12 too .


  • Registered Users Posts: 386 ✭✭The Minstrel


    Very unimpressed with the Jameson 12 yr, haven't had the 18. Like the Power's equivalent, I think they are just ways IDL have figured out to charge more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    I think the 18yr is better than the 12yr, having said that my guests are always given the regular jameson (they wouldn't appreciate the good stuff)

    i have a bottle of 15yr jameson gathering dust.. i'm afraid to open it , i might try and get a 2nd bottle as an investment


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Thank you for reminding me to go rummaging! ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    pa990 wrote: »
    I think the 18yr is better than the 12yr, having said that my guests are always given the regular jameson (they wouldn't appreciate the good stuff)

    i have a bottle of 15yr jameson gathering dust.. i'm afraid to open it , i might try and get a 2nd bottle as an investment

    The 15 year old is way better than the 12 and 18, in my opinion. I've a good few bottles stashed away.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Brockagh wrote: »
    The 15 year old is way better t............ I've a good few bottles stashed away.

    I'm planning on getting my hands on two bottles next month.

    Just out of curiosity.. just how many bottles of 15yr do you have stashed away


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    I have five bottles of the Millennium one and a couple bottles of the special reserve, which looks very like the Millennium one, but was produced just before it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Brockagh wrote: »
    I have five bottles of the Millennium one and a couple bottles of the special reserve, which looks very like the Millennium one, but was produced just before it.

    Can you tell me where you live, which flower pot you hide the spare key under, and a list of times that your house will be vacant
    :p:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    pa990 wrote: »
    Can you tell me where you live, which flower pot you hide the spare key under, and a list of times that your house will be vacant
    :p:D

    Can I arrange transport for you as well?

    I've been buying stuff for years. Not in the begining for investment or anthing like that, but every time I saw what I thought looked like a bargain, I bought it.

    Whiskey investment is supposed be beating the market substantially at the moment, but I wonder about the figures you hear.

    I'm actually trying to stop collecting at the moment, but I'm finding it hard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Brockagh wrote: »
    Can I arrange transport for you as well?

    Arrange some transport for me too please :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    This is what I've amassed so far...

    Bushmills 12 yr old Millennium (1680)
    Bushmills 12 yr old Millennium (1680)
    Bushmills 1975 Millennium
    Bushmills 1975 Millennium
    Bushmills 1975 Millennium
    Bushmills 1982 Millennium
    Bushmills 1982 Millennium
    Bushmills blend (1940s/50s/60s)
    Bushmills 5 yr old
    Bushmills Bourbon Cask
    Bushmills 9 yr old 1960s
    Bushmills Sherry Cask
    Bushmills Rum Cask
    Brusna (Kilbeggan) Distilery 1950s PPS
    Cadenhead Bow Street 1963
    Cadenhead Bow Street 1963
    Erin Go Bragh
    Erin Go Bragh
    Greenore 8 yr old Limited Edition
    Hennessy Na-Geanna
    Hewitts
    Hewitts
    Jameson NAS 1980s
    Jameson 12 yr old (Asian market)
    Jameson 12 yr old (faded label) 1970s
    Jameson 15 yr old blend
    Jameson 1780 (1980s)
    Jameson 1780 (1980s)
    Jameson 1780 (1990s)
    Jameson 1780 (1990s)
    Jameson 7 yr old pure pot still
    Jameson 7 yr old pure pot still

    Jameson Liquor Irish Whiskey (1950s)
    Jameson 12 yr old 1950s PPS
    Jameson Distillery Horse
    Jameson Distillery Horse
    Jameson Cooperage
    Jameson Cooperage
    Jameson Cooperage
    Jameson Grace
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson 15 Special Edition
    Knappogue Castle 1951

    Knappogue Castle 1951
    Knappogue Castle 1990

    Knappogue Castle 1991
    Knappogue Castle 1992
    Knappogue Castle 1993
    Knappogue Castle 1994
    Knappogue Castle 1995
    Knappogue Castle 15 single malt
    Michael Collins Single Malt
    Midleton 1973 pure pot still
    Midleton 25 yr old pure pot still
    Midleton 25 yr old pure pot still

    Midleton 26 yr old pure pot still
    Midleton 26 yr old pure pot still
    Midleton Sudduethce Zeitung 12
    Midleton Sudduethce Zeitung 12
    Midleton Sudduethce Zeitung 12
    Midleton Very Rare 1984
    Midleton Very rare 2001
    Midleton very rare 2001
    Midleton very rare 2003
    Midleton Very Rare 1996
    Midleton Very Rare 1994
    Midleton very rare 1995
    Midleton very Rare 2006
    Midleton Very Rare 2004
    Midleton Very Rare 2004
    Midleton 1967 blend
    Midleton single cask celtic whisky shop
    Midleton single cask celtic whisky shop
    Midleton Reserve (staff bottling?)
    Old Comber 7 year old
    Old Comber 30 yr old
    Old Comber 30 yr old (cloudy)
    Old Irish Gold 15 years
    Old Irish Gold over 24 yrs old
    Old Irish Gold over 24 yrs old
    Paddy 1970s
    Paddy 1970s
    Paddy 1980s
    Paddy Cork 800
    Paddy Cork 800

    Paddy 1980s
    Powers 1950s Pure Pot Still
    Powers 1970s
    Powers 1980s
    Powers 1980s
    Powers 1980s
    Powers Special 15 year old
    Redbreast 12 - 1970s
    Redbreast 15 x 6
    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast 15



    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast blend
    Redbreast blend
    Tullamore Dew 8 year old (square bottle)

    SCOTCH

    Ardbeg 1977
    Ardbeg single cask 16 yr old.
    Ardbeg Corryvrekan
    Ardbeg Peat Pack
    Ardbeg Peat Pack
    Ardbeg Peat Pack

    Ardbeg Serendipity
    Ardbeg Serendipity
    Arran 9 yr old
    Arran 9 yr old
    Arran 9 yr old
    Arran 9 yr old
    Arran 9 yr old
    Bladnoch 16 Sherry Cask
    Bladnoch Congnac Finish
    Brora 30
    Bunnahabhain 28
    Glen Grant 28 Sherry finish
    Glen Grant 27
    Glen Grant 1974
    Glenmorangie Artisan Cask
    Hazelburn 8
    Hazelburn 8
    Highland Park 1977 Bicentennial
    Highland Park 1977 Bicentennial
    Highland Park 30 (Spectator Mag)
    Highland Park 1982
    Invergordon 1971
    Invergordon 1971

    Laphroaig 30
    Laphroaig 30
    Port Ellen 1982 24 yr old
    Port Ellen 1982 24 yr old

    Rosebank Rare Malts 20 yr old
    Rosebank Rare Malts 22 yr old
    Talisker 175th Anniversary
    Tullibardine Stillman's Dram 30
    Linkwood (Bladnoch mystery malt)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Holy Jebus! You have one of each of those bottles?
    Where do you store them? Thats thousands of Euro worth of Whiskey.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Brockagh wrote: »
    This is what I've amassed so far...

    Bushmills 12 yr old Millennium (1680)
    Bushmills 12 yr old Millennium (1680)
    Bushmills 1975 Millennium
    Bushmills 1975 Millennium
    Bushmills 1975 Millennium
    Bushmills 1982 Millennium
    Bushmills 1982 Millennium
    Bushmills blend (1940s/50s/60s)
    Bushmills 5 yr old
    Bushmills Bourbon Cask
    Bushmills 9 yr old 1960s
    Bushmills Sherry Cask
    Bushmills Rum Cask
    Brusna (Kilbeggan) Distilery 1950s PPS
    Cadenhead Bow Street 1963
    Cadenhead Bow Street 1963
    Erin Go Bragh
    Erin Go Bragh
    Greenore 8 yr old Limited Edition
    Hennessy Na-Geanna
    Hewitts
    Hewitts
    Jameson NAS 1980s
    Jameson 12 yr old (Asian market)
    Jameson 12 yr old (faded label) 1970s
    Jameson 15 yr old blend
    Jameson 1780 (1980s)
    Jameson 1780 (1980s)
    Jameson 1780 (1990s)
    Jameson 1780 (1990s)
    Jameson 7 yr old pure pot still
    Jameson 7 yr old pure pot still

    Jameson Liquor Irish Whiskey (1950s)
    Jameson 12 yr old 1950s PPS
    Jameson Distillery Horse
    Jameson Distillery Horse
    Jameson Cooperage
    Jameson Cooperage
    Jameson Cooperage
    Jameson Grace
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson Millennium 15 yrs old
    Jameson 15 Special Edition
    Knappogue Castle 1951

    Knappogue Castle 1951
    Knappogue Castle 1990

    Knappogue Castle 1991
    Knappogue Castle 1992
    Knappogue Castle 1993
    Knappogue Castle 1994
    Knappogue Castle 1995
    Knappogue Castle 15 single malt
    Michael Collins Single Malt
    Midleton 1973 pure pot still
    Midleton 25 yr old pure pot still
    Midleton 25 yr old pure pot still

    Midleton 26 yr old pure pot still
    Midleton 26 yr old pure pot still
    Midleton Sudduethce Zeitung 12
    Midleton Sudduethce Zeitung 12
    Midleton Sudduethce Zeitung 12
    Midleton Very Rare 1984
    Midleton Very rare 2001
    Midleton very rare 2001
    Midleton very rare 2003
    Midleton Very Rare 1996
    Midleton Very Rare 1994
    Midleton very rare 1995
    Midleton very Rare 2006
    Midleton Very Rare 2004
    Midleton Very Rare 2004
    Midleton 1967 blend
    Midleton single cask celtic whisky shop
    Midleton single cask celtic whisky shop
    Midleton Reserve (staff bottling?)
    Old Comber 7 year old
    Old Comber 30 yr old
    Old Comber 30 yr old (cloudy)
    Old Irish Gold 15 years
    Old Irish Gold over 24 yrs old
    Old Irish Gold over 24 yrs old
    Paddy 1970s
    Paddy 1970s
    Paddy 1980s
    Paddy Cork 800
    Paddy Cork 800

    Paddy 1980s
    Powers 1950s Pure Pot Still
    Powers 1970s
    Powers 1980s
    Powers 1980s
    Powers 1980s
    Powers Special 15 year old
    Redbreast 12 - 1970s
    Redbreast 15 x 6
    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast 15



    Redbreast 15
    Redbreast blend
    Redbreast blend
    Tullamore Dew 8 year old (square bottle)

    SCOTCH

    Ardbeg 1977
    Ardbeg single cask 16 yr old.
    Ardbeg Corryvrekan
    Ardbeg Peat Pack
    Ardbeg Peat Pack
    Ardbeg Peat Pack

    Ardbeg Serendipity
    Ardbeg Serendipity
    Arran 9 yr old
    Arran 9 yr old
    Arran 9 yr old
    Arran 9 yr old
    Arran 9 yr old
    Bladnoch 16 Sherry Cask
    Bladnoch Congnac Finish
    Brora 30
    Bunnahabhain 28
    Glen Grant 28 Sherry finish
    Glen Grant 27
    Glen Grant 1974
    Glenmorangie Artisan Cask
    Hazelburn 8
    Hazelburn 8
    Highland Park 1977 Bicentennial
    Highland Park 1977 Bicentennial
    Highland Park 30 (Spectator Mag)
    Highland Park 1982
    Invergordon 1971
    Invergordon 1971

    Laphroaig 30
    Laphroaig 30
    Port Ellen 1982 24 yr old
    Port Ellen 1982 24 yr old

    Rosebank Rare Malts 20 yr old
    Rosebank Rare Malts 22 yr old
    Talisker 175th Anniversary
    Tullibardine Stillman's Dram 30
    Linkwood (Bladnoch mystery malt)

    Feckin hell :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,381 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    zuroph wrote: »
    I know, I'm very annoyed now, but it was coming home from town, offered a night cap to my mates, and before u know it the bottle was gone. :( I'll pick one up again next month.
    Brockagh wrote: »
    This is what I've amassed so far...

    Bushmills 12 yr old Millennium (1680).........

    Don't let zuroph near your stash! if 500ml is a mere nightcap he would polish all your lot in a single session :pac:

    I think there is a legal limit to how much booze you can have, the limits are huge but you might be close. Think I read it in some homebrew paper years back. Could even be seen as a fire hazard by house insurers.
    pa990 wrote: »
    Can you tell me where you live, which flower pot you hide the spare key under, and a list of times that your house will be vacant
    :p:D
    On one of those "dumbest criminals" programs they had an off licence with beer stacked up close to the front door. A guy stuck his fingers through and opened the bottles and drank them through the letterbox, had a video of him at it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    It's covered on my house insurance - I've talked to my insurance company. I also store some of it in my parents' house. Our three-bed, semi-detached house can't cater for it all.

    Also bought a few more in the last few days. A Tyrconnell bottled for the innaguration of Obama and a Caol Ila 25 cask strength.

    And some of the Midleton VRs on the list have been swapped, although the exchange has not been made yet.

    I also haven't included some of the open bottles I have, although a few on the list are open.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Where did you find the Obama bottle, and more importantly, .. how much


  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭shanel23


    Nice collection ! Whats the one you really want to try but won't ( unless of course you get a 2nd bottle of it ) ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    pa990 wrote: »
    Where did you find the Obama bottle, and more importantly, .. how much

    I got it in the Celtic Whiskey Shop. They only had 12 bottles, or something like that. It cost 100 euro. Purely for the collector, because inside the bottle is just your standard Tyrconnell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Brockagh


    shanel23 wrote: »
    Nice collection ! Whats the one you really want to try but won't ( unless of course you get a 2nd bottle of it ) ?

    I'd consider opening most of them, but not all of them. The ones I probably wouldn't open are those that probably don't taste special. Like the Hennessy or the Jameson Grace. They're just standard whiskey.

    I probably wouldn't open the Midleton 26, although you'd never know. Might nnot open the 25 either as I've tried it - and it's excellent.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭nhughes100


    Jameson 12 yr old was the first "special" whiskey I bought since I liked Jameson and I liked Crested Ten and I have to say I was a bit dissapointed with it, that's what put me off getting the 18 or gold editions.

    That's a hell of a collection Brockagh, no way I could have that amount of whiskey unopened, I've only got one that I haven't opened. A bushmills 18 year old rum casked limited edition bottled number 2 out of 189. The only reason I didn't open it was I thought the bottle number was cool. I got the sherry casked cousin of this one and it was massive but it's down to the last quarter bottle. At 56.5% the best whiskey I ever drank.


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