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Tefl in South Korea

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    I'm doing a winter camp after Xmas. Starts on the 4th of January



    My brother is in Phnom Penh, we are going to Angor watt for a few days and chilling out in Phnom Penh for a few days too. It shouldn't be too bad at all. :) I'm really excited about getting some sun!


    At least he'll be able to bring you to some decent places......then when that hour is up, I don't know what you'll do for the rest of your time there :p

    When I was in the supermarket in Phnom Penh, I saw some white people in shirts and ties, who obviously worked in Cambodia, and weren't just travelling around. I felt so sorry for them.

    I'm sure you'll have a great time with your brother and he'll be able to bring you places that are enjoyable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭hyperbaby


    cloneslad wrote: »
    Apart from the prison and the killing fields, Phnom Penh has nothing going for it. It's just a city...a poor one at that, full of dirt, annoying people, bad food and boredom.

    You can visit the killing fields and prison in day. I stayed in a hotel next to the prison, so I just walked over to it, then after I was done, I toook a ride out to the killing fields, which you can view in about an hour or 2 (slightly longer if you stay and watch the video). For me, the killing fields were nice to visit, to truely understand just what went on, but the idea of taking loads of photos of people's skulls and bones wasn't very enticing, I couldn't understand why people would want to pose next to them.

    Reading the horror stories from both of those places takes it out of you, mentally, and you need to unwind after it. Unfortunately the food in Phnom Penh is terrible, so you can't even go to a decent restaurant / street food place and relax.

    The indoor market is okay though, you could spend a few hours in there, but as I was travelling on I didn't really buy much, only a couple of t-shirts that I paid about a dollar for. The cambodians are terrible at haggling, several times I would look at an item because I thought it was nice, they'd shout $25 or some silly price, I'd say no thank you and browse around, then I'd get $20, $15, $12, $10, $6, $4 shouted at me over the course of a minute as I pleasantly declined...I honestly thought If I hung around the area long enough, they would give me money to take it away.

    Siem Reap is well worth a few days though, the tourist sites are nice, good pubs, nice restaurants, great, cheap street food and you could walk around for hours, while also declining Cannabis, coke, heroin, from the local friendly dealers.

    I didn't go to the beach areas though, so they could be nice, I just wanted to get out of phnom Penh (I'd spent about 4 days there and wanted to get to vietnam asap, was delighted when I did, because Vietnam was awesome).

    Anyway, just my 2 cents worth, you might love it...that's what travelling is all about.

    Thanks for your advice.
    My friends and I are going Phnom Penh for 2-3 days so I will soon find out what it is like.
    Is it difficult to get a tourist visa for Vietnam? I have found loads of conflicting information online.
    Since you seem to


  • Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭hyperbaby


    ekevosu wrote: »
    I did one by jiri San, can't remember the name right now but it was great. Beautiful place, very relaxing. Early mornings were tough but a great experience. There was no English guide there. They do them all over Korea. Jeolhansa (spelling?) in pyeongchang is beautiful. I think there is a website for tourists looking to do a temple stay. Try a google and it might come up. The bigger temples usually have monks that speak a bit of English.

    http://eng.templestay.com/


    I went to a temple stay inbetween Busan and Gwangju last year. It was a really great experience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭vicecreamsundae


    Hi all,
    I'm just about to start this whole process! I start my (online) TEFL course tomorrow. I was originally just going to go through Tiger English but have since read its best to sign up with a bunch of different recruiters in order to get a job sooner. Ideally I'd love to be over by the end of January if possible.

    But can someone please explain EPIK a little bit to me? I understand it's a government program and am under the impression its for public school jobs only, but are there any benefits of going through EPIK rather than other recruiters? Also, I've seen some people talk about getting their second or third choices -again is this an EPIK thing, and if so how does it work? I have my heart set on Seoul and while I know there's a lot of good to be said about other cities, I'm pretty stubborn on sticking with Seoul.

    Thanks for any help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    hyperbaby wrote: »
    Thanks for your advice.
    My friends and I are going Phnom Penh for 2-3 days so I will soon find out what it is like.
    Is it difficult to get a tourist visa for Vietnam? I have found loads of conflicting information online.
    Since you seem to


    It's not that difficult. You can get a rushed visa in 24 hours while in Phnom penh, think it may have cost about $50 or something like that. Cassi prob knows the name of the honest, fast, company in Phnom penh that'll do it for you, I'm not sure if you can go directly to the embassy itself and get it.

    Vietnam is great, how long you going to go for?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Hi all,
    I'm just about to start this whole process! I start my (online) TEFL course tomorrow. I was originally just going to go through Tiger English but have since read its best to sign up with a bunch of different recruiters in order to get a job sooner. Ideally I'd love to be over by the end of January if possible.

    But can someone please explain EPIK a little bit to me? I understand it's a government program and am under the impression its for public school jobs only, but are there any benefits of going through EPIK rather than other recruiters? Also, I've seen some people talk about getting their second or third choices -again is this an EPIK thing, and if so how does it work? I have my heart set on Seoul and while I know there's a lot of good to be said about other cities, I'm pretty stubborn on sticking with Seoul.

    Thanks for any help!

    Online course = giant waste of money.

    EPIK is government controlled and is only for public schools.

    Benefits of going through EPIK rather than through an agency = you know your application has gone through, without doubt

    You can also make only one application for EPIK. If you get 2-3-4 agencies to apply to EPIK for you, then you'll be automatically disqualified from the process.

    Postives of using an agency (a good one) = they'll help answer a lot of your questions with regards to the application and getting there.

    You are possibly too late to get a job in the EPIK bulk hiring period for the beginning of March. You will definitely not get Seoul at this stage, unless there is some sort of miracle.

    If you only want Seoul, you'll have to go for a private school. With the bulk hiring process, you usually don't find out where you are going until you get to Korea, so you could end up with your 3rd or 4th choice.

    Where in Seoul do you want to be living? Do you realise how big it is? Do you know which areas are good / bad. Do you know if there is a good public transport system near by? Do you know the subway closes really early and it can be a giant pain in the ass / wallet to get from Hongdae / Itaewon to some place in Seoul that has a crap public transport connection, meaning you'll get a taxi.

    I know a guy who lived in Seoul in 2007, he was a bit away from one of the last subway stops and used to used him about €50 to get a taxi home after a night out, and he was the only white guy in the area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭roosh


    cloneslad wrote: »
    Online course = giant waste of money.

    EPIK is government controlled and is only for public schools.

    Benefits of going through EPIK rather than through an agency = you know your application has gone through, without doubt

    You can also make only one application for EPIK. If you get 2-3-4 agencies to apply to EPIK for you, then you'll be automatically disqualified from the process.

    Postives of using an agency (a good one) = they'll help answer a lot of your questions with regards to the application and getting there.

    You are possibly too late to get a job in the EPIK bulk hiring period for the beginning of March. You will definitely not get Seoul at this stage, unless there is some sort of miracle.

    If you only want Seoul, you'll have to go for a private school. With the bulk hiring process, you usually don't find out where you are going until you get to Korea, so you could end up with your 3rd or 4th choice.

    Where in Seoul do you want to be living? Do you realise how big it is? Do you know which areas are good / bad. Do you know if there is a good public transport system near by? Do you know the subway closes really early and it can be a giant pain in the ass / wallet to get from Hongdae / Itaewon to some place in Seoul that has a crap public transport connection, meaning you'll get a taxi.

    I know a guy who lived in Seoul in 2007, he was a bit away from one of the last subway stops and used to used him about €50 to get a taxi home after a night out, and he was the only white guy in the area.

    Are the online TEFL courses a waste of money? I know they probably don't teach you much, but are they still recognised by EPIK? If so, then the bump in paygrade would mean it pays for itself, and then some.

    One of the other advantages of EPIK, or so I've heard, is that you get more holidays per year and you've much less chance of getting mucked about by the headmaster/owner of the school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    roosh wrote: »
    Are the online TEFL courses a waste of money? I know they probably don't teach you much, but are they still recognised by EPIK? If so, then the bump in paygrade would mean it pays for itself, and then some.

    It must be more than 100 or 120 hours to qualify for the pay increase, or at least that's what it was not too long ago. It may be more now. Also, if you have a masters or a PGDE/PGCE then you'll get the increase anyway.

    But mostly, for a personal advantage, it teaches you absolutely nothing you wouldn't get from just browsing some websites yourself.
    One of the other advantages of EPIK, or so I've heard, is that you get more holidays per year and you've much less chance of getting mucked about by the headmaster/owner of the school.

    Oh, there are lots of advantages to EPIK over a hagwon (and vice versa) the advantages I gave above are purely related to applying directly to EPIK rather than using a recruiter to do it for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭roosh


    Has anyone has any experience teaching English in a university, or knows anyone who teaches/has taught in a university here in Korea?

    I'm just wondering how it compares to teaching in a public school. I know there are obvious differences but I'm wondering what it is like in terms of workload and if there is much more pressure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    roosh wrote: »
    Has anyone has any experience teaching English in a university, or knows anyone who teaches/has taught in a university here in Korea?

    I'm just wondering how it compares to teaching in a public school. I know there are obvious differences but I'm wondering what it is like in terms of workload and if there is much more pressure?

    I know a few people who have / are teaching in a Uni. I also know one teaching in one in HCM in Vietnam.

    A lot depends on the course / uni / students. For those doing a degree where English is a module they must do for one semester but it's nt important to the overall degree itself, then a lot of them won't work hard / they'll pretty much expect you to pass them just for turning up for the exam. (obviously this is generalising)

    Workloads are increasing more and more as Universities start demanding more teaching hours for their investment. Some people may only teach 4 hours a week and have 4 months of paid holidays, others might be on 18-21 hours with a few weeks off in summer and winter.

    Each place is different, and you'd really have to check out the contract or ask those working in each uni.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭roosh


    cloneslad wrote: »
    I know a few people who have / are teaching in a Uni. I also know one teaching in one in HCM in Vietnam.

    A lot depends on the course / uni / students. For those doing a degree where English is a module they must do for one semester but it's nt important to the overall degree itself, then a lot of them won't work hard / they'll pretty much expect you to pass them just for turning up for the exam. (obviously this is generalising)

    Workloads are increasing more and more as Universities start demanding more teaching hours for their investment. Some people may only teach 4 hours a week and have 4 months of paid holidays, others might be on 18-21 hours with a few weeks off in summer and winter.

    Each place is different, and you'd really have to check out the contract or ask those working in each uni.

    cheers [clones]lad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    roosh wrote: »
    cheers [clones]lad!


    I see what you did there. Your clever use of brackets hasn't gone unnoticed. The TEFL in south Korea fairies shall reward you in due course. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭roosh


    cloneslad wrote: »
    I see what you did there. Your clever use of brackets hasn't gone unnoticed. The TEFL in south Korea fairies shall reward you in due course. :p
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    cloneslad wrote: »
    It's not that difficult. You can get a rushed visa in 24 hours while in Phnom penh, think it may have cost about $50 or something like that.

    My friend went at the beginning of the year and said that it was 20 USD. But be careful they can try and con you out of money!

    Cloneslad - I'll be sure to find interesting things to do while I'm over there....

    Flying over on the Saturday
    Siem Reap Monday - Wednesday evening
    S21
    the killing fields
    shoot some guns

    MAYBE
    Bokor Hill Station


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    My friend went at the beginning of the year and said that it was 20 USD. But be careful they can try and con you out of money!

    Cloneslad - I'll be sure to find interesting things to do while I'm over there....

    Flying over on the Saturday
    Siem Reap Monday - Wednesday evening
    S21
    the killing fields
    shoot some guns

    MAYBE
    Bokor Hill Station


    The 48 hour one is cheaper than the 24 hour one. I just wanted to get out of Phnom penh, so I spent the extra money on it. Not sure if it was 50, maybe it was 40...not too sure, I just remember paying more to get out of there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭vicecreamsundae


    Thanks for all that info ClonesLad
    cloneslad wrote: »
    It must be more than 100 or 120 hours to qualify for the pay increase, or at least that's what it was not too long ago. It may be more now. Also, if you have a masters or a PGDE/PGCE then you'll get the increase anyway.

    But mostly, for a personal advantage, it teaches you absolutely nothing you wouldn't get from just browsing some websites yourself.

    The course I'm doing is 120 hours, and it was only €99 through a good groupon deal. I figured for that price it was worth it, as although I have a masters, I've never taught before.


    I know a little about some areas in Seoul and transit is definitely something I'd look into when researching an area.

    Well I guess that's EPIK out of the question for me, because I'm definitely not hanging around here 'til March!

    Thanks again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭cassi


    cloneslad wrote: »
    It's not that difficult. You can get a rushed visa in 24 hours while in Phnom penh, think it may have cost about $50 or something like that. Cassi prob knows the name of the honest, fast, company in Phnom penh that'll do it for you, I'm not sure if you can go directly to the embassy itself and get it.

    Vietnam is great, how long you going to go for?

    Hyperbaby, The travel agency cloneslad is talking about is VLK tourism, they are recommended in the travel books, they are on Monivong Blvd on the corner just after you cross Charles deGaul Blvd. You technically can get them in the Vietnamese embassy but since Cambodia runs in bribes and backhands you'll constantly be put to the back of cues, agencies have their inside men so they get them quicker.

    You can also book buses outa Phenom Penh there too! (And man was I happy to get on that bus) :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    If you are going to the Vietnam embassy in Phnom Penh for a visa, don't give your passport and the money to the security guard outside on the street.

    Go into the office itself. The security guard likes to add a few dollars on to the cost for his own pocket.

    He may claim that the office is closed or won't be back til tomorrow, but go on in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    kraggy wrote: »
    If you are going to the Vietnam embassy in Phnom Penh for a visa, don't give your passport and the money to the security guard outside on the street.

    Go into the office itself. The security guard likes to add a few dollars on to the cost for his own pocket.

    He may claim that the office is closed or won't be back til tomorrow, but go on in.


    I actually refer to it as Scambodia, you even have to pay the legit border control guards a bribe to get your passport stamped. Of course you can tell them to f**k off, but that means they take their time, or you can give them about $2 or whatever it is and get the thing done quickly and carry on with your trip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭roosh


    cloneslad wrote: »
    It must be more than 100 or 120 hours to qualify for the pay increase, or at least that's what it was not too long ago. It may be more now. Also, if you have a masters or a PGDE/PGCE then you'll get the increase anyway.

    But mostly, for a personal advantage, it teaches you absolutely nothing you wouldn't get from just browsing some websites yourself.

    didn't see this post earlier.

    That's right about the 100+ hrs TEFL, that was the case when I applied this year; so if it isn't 100+ hrs it's doubly a waste of time. Although, I can understand why someone would do an online one, it's just there are better ones.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    cloneslad wrote: »
    I actually refer to it as Scambodia, you even have to pay the legit border control guards a bribe to get your passport stamped. Of course you can tell them to f**k off, but that means they take their time, or you can give them about $2 or whatever it is and get the thing done quickly and carry on with your trip.

    Yup, happened me when going from 4000 islands across the border into Cambodia. Only an extra couple of dollars but when they're standing there dressed in uniform sniggering at you in a group knowing they have you by the balls and that you have no choice to pay or you'll be sleeping on the roadside that night, it's infuriating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    hyperbaby wrote: »
    Am I the only sap that has to do winter camps? :(

    No.
    Cambodia from the 17th till the 25th December....counting down the days until my skin sees sun again. The cold snap is really hitting home now!

    It hasn't even hit freezing yet Squeeky!
    Home for a bit in January but working for most of it. Anyone else back to work on December 26th??


    Yes. It's a balls. Starting camp with hangover will be hard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭hyperbaby


    cloneslad wrote: »
    It's not that difficult. You can get a rushed visa in 24 hours while in Phnom penh, think it may have cost about $50 or something like that. Cassi prob knows the name of the honest, fast, company in Phnom penh that'll do it for you, I'm not sure if you can go directly to the embassy itself and get it.

    Vietnam is great, how long you going to go for?

    Okay, thanks for the tip.
    When we searched online we were worried there might be complications or delayes in getting a visa.

    The way it is turning out, only 4 days. Kinda **** but that is just the way it goes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭hyperbaby


    Well way to sell Cambodia ye guys :p
    I'm crap at dealing with guard types, I really hope there isn't too much hassle there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    hyperbaby wrote: »
    Well way to sell Cambodia ye guys :p
    I'm crap at dealing with guard types, I really hope there isn't too much hassle there.

    If you go there thinking it's going to be shít then everything will look great when you're there, because you weren't expecting it to be as good. Just go drinking if you've nothing else to do, that'll entertain you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭hyperbaby


    The crew I'm going with definitely aren't the drinking type so that isn't on the cards.
    Have you been to Ho Chi Minh? Did you like it there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    hyperbaby wrote: »
    The crew I'm going with definitely aren't the drinking type so that isn't on the cards.
    Have you been to Ho Chi Minh? Did you like it there?

    Had a great time there, met up with one of my friends who works in a uni there, took a trip to the tunnels. Walked all around the city, visited lots of museums and enjoyed the awesome food.

    Also took a trip to the Christina Noble foundation's Orphange with my friend's wife, she works there so she sorted everything out for us.

    Vietnam is a great country to visit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭vicecreamsundae


    Hi all, a quick question on getting a notarized, apostilled copy of my degree for the application.

    I just emailed my old college about procuring a copy of my diploma, specifying I didn't want the original, and was told I could either pay €60 for a 'replacement parchment' or just get official transcripts.
    Very confused! Is there no such thing as an official copy? Does a copy just mean a colour photocopy of the original? (which means taking my degree out of its frame, grr.)

    Thanks for any help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭cassi


    Hi all, a quick question on getting a notarized, apostilled copy of my degree for the application.

    I just emailed my old college about procuring a copy of my diploma, specifying I didn't want the original, and was told I could either pay €60 for a 'replacement parchment' or just get official transcripts.
    Very confused! Is there no such thing as an official copy? Does a copy just mean a colour photocopy of the original? (which means taking my degree out of its frame, grr.)

    Thanks for any help.

    Yep, just photocopy the original! Then get it notorised, then take it to the Dept. of Foreign affairs and get it apostilled.

    Oh, it doesn't need to be colour!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭roosh


    Hi all, a quick question on getting a notarized, apostilled copy of my degree for the application.

    I just emailed my old college about procuring a copy of my diploma, specifying I didn't want the original, and was told I could either pay €60 for a 'replacement parchment' or just get official transcripts.
    Very confused! Is there no such thing as an official copy? Does a copy just mean a colour photocopy of the original? (which means taking my degree out of its frame, grr.)

    Thanks for any help.
    This would be my understanding.

    You do need a photocopy of the original, or rather, an original parchement. If you graduated, then a copy of the parchment you received at graduation would be fine.

    If you no longer have that, then it is likely you will have to pay for a replacement parchment, because the awarding institution probably doesn't retain parchments for all past students. A copy of that replacement would be fine then.

    Either way, though, it has to be a photocopy of an actual parchment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Hi all, a quick question on getting a notarized, apostilled copy of my degree for the application.

    I just emailed my old college about procuring a copy of my diploma, specifying I didn't want the original, and was told I could either pay €60 for a 'replacement parchment' or just get official transcripts.
    Very confused! Is there no such thing as an official copy? Does a copy just mean a colour photocopy of the original? (which means taking my degree out of its frame, grr.)

    Thanks for any help.

    Open frame (it's not a difficult as you may think)

    take out degree scroll

    photocopy degree

    put original back in frame

    bring photocopy to get notarised at a commissioner of oaths

    bring photocopy to dept of foreign affairs to be apostilled

    job done


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭MrMatisse


    Hi All,

    Read this on the footprints website, just wondering is it realistic?

    Here is a breakdown of my expenses.
    cell phone 45,000 internet 30,000 water 15,000 subway 20,000 restaurants 300,000 food 150,000 travel/weekend entertainment 600,000 miscellaneous 150,000 TOTAL 1,310,000


    All up, line items from the budget sometimes run over but for the most part I usually have excess. My salary is 2,000,000 and I reckon most months I am backing around 800,000. I would NEVER be able to bank that much back home and live so well


    THANKS!


  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭cassi


    MrMatisse wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Read this on the footprints website, just wondering is it realistic?

    Here is a breakdown of my expenses.
    cell phone 45,000 internet 30,000 water 15,000 subway 20,000 restaurants 300,000 food 150,000 travel/weekend entertainment 600,000 miscellaneous 150,000 TOTAL 1,310,000


    All up, line items from the budget sometimes run over but for the most part I usually have excess. My salary is 2,000,000 and I reckon most months I am backing around 800,000. I would NEVER be able to bank that much back home and live so well


    THANKS!


    It varies really!! That example doesn't have gas or electricity in it. During the summer electricity can be quite high from running the air con all the time and during winter gas will be high from heating.

    It also changes person to person, my travel expenses would have been much lower and I never would have spend that much in restaurants a month. I also wouldn't have spend that much on weekends out.

    There will always be unplanned expenses like needing some items of clothing, if you get sick or just want to buy something for yourself.

    Its still pretty impossible to not save something, even people I know that spend alot and never had a budget still managed to save money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    MrMatisse wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Read this on the footprints website, just wondering is it realistic?

    Here is a breakdown of my expenses.
    cell phone 45,000 internet 30,000 water 15,000 subway 20,000 restaurants 300,000 food 150,000 travel/weekend entertainment 600,000 miscellaneous 150,000 TOTAL 1,310,000


    All up, line items from the budget sometimes run over but for the most part I usually have excess. My salary is 2,000,000 and I reckon most months I am backing around 800,000. I would NEVER be able to bank that much back home and live so well

    THANKS!

    cell phone - if you don't get a bill phone, that can be 10-20k a month on pay as you go.

    Internet - 30k seems about right

    water - Are they talking about bottles water here? If it's water for the apartment, then it gets thrown in with apartment fees, so I'm not sure how much (or if) I was paying for it.

    Subway - I didn't live near one, but, it'll depend on where you live, where your school is, how much you wanna move around.

    restaurants - seems like a large amount to be spending on restaurants, this person mustn't cook much at home.

    Food - Is this groceries? I would spend about 200k or so on groceries, but much less then 300k on restaurants.

    weekend entertainment - 600k seems very very excessive, this person obviously liked to drink....a lot. Either that or go to the opera and travel all around the country.

    Miscellaneous - I hope by this, ther person is talking about paying their electricity and gas bill, because they haven't mentioned that...plus they've very little else to buy, considering everything else they've been spending.

    I've said it before, when I budgeted hard, I was able to spend only 400k a month. However most people could get away with spending 700-800k without much of a struggle, or 1million and still have an easy life.

    Don't forget, out of a 2million salary, you'll lose close to 200k in tax, insurance, pension.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭MrMatisse


    Really appreciate all the responses.

    Cloneslad you are a wealth of information:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭MrMatisse


    Hi all,

    I have an a3 size degree parchment in Latin, seems like scanning will be a nightmare and of course its in Latin..... not sure an A3 is going to scan well at all never mind the Latin, would this be a problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭ekevosu


    MrMatisse wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I have an a3 size degree parchment in Latin, seems like scanning will be a nightmare and of course its in Latin..... not sure an A3 is going to scan well at all never mind the Latin, would this be a problem?

    Mine was in Latin and it was fine so that's not a problem.

    It was A3 as well and it scanned fine if you needed to send it via email for some reason.

    Otherwise just photocopy it, apostille and notarise. Why scan?

    Note: most photocopiers can scan and email directly to you these days anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭roosh


    MrMatisse wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I have an a3 size degree parchment in Latin, seems like scanning will be a nightmare and of course its in Latin..... not sure an A3 is going to scan well at all never mind the Latin, would this be a problem?

    I took mine to the local Library and got it photocopied, and they were able to reduce the size to A4 which meant it was easy to scan.

    Are you going for a public school job or a Hagwon? If you're going for a public school job you'll need to get an english translation cert for your degree; I'm not sure if that is the case with Hagwons though, so probably no need to worry about it if no one has asked you for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭ekevosu


    roosh wrote: »
    I took mine to the local Library and got it photocopied, and they were able to reduce the size to A4 which meant it was easy to scan.

    Are you going for a public school job or a Hagwon? If you're going for a public school job you'll need to get an english translation cert for your degree; I'm not sure if that is the case with Hagwons though, so probably no need to worry about it if no one has asked you for it.

    I work for a public school, mine was in Latin and there was never a mention to me.

    Maybe it's a case by case basis like a lot of things in Korea but I never saw it written down anywhere when I applied or was told differently by my recruiter. On this forum is the only place I've seen the English translation being mentioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭roosh


    ekevosu wrote: »
    I work for a public school, mine was in Latin and there was never a mention to me.

    Maybe it's a case by case basis like a lot of things in Korea but I never saw it written down anywhere when I applied or was told differently by my recruiter. On this forum is the only place I've seen the English translation being mentioned.

    ah ok, my recruiter said I had to get one, so I got one. It might not have been an EPIK requirement, just something my recruiter asked for; I can't remember if I saw it on any EPIK checklist.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    I'm doing a "magic science class" with kids aged between 10-13.

    I've checked on the internet for some ideas, only a rough skim but does anyone have any experiments that could be done in an hour that doesn't involve any major chemicals.

    Most of the stuff I saw is for kids that would be taught daily etc. But from what I've been told this is just for a one day programme or a once off class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭ekevosu


    I'm doing a "magic science class" with kids aged between 10-13.

    I've checked on the internet for some ideas, only a rough skim but does anyone have any experiments that could be done in an hour that doesn't involve any major chemicals.

    Most of the stuff I saw is for kids that would be taught daily etc. But from what I've been told this is just for a one day programme or a once off class.

    I did a few quick experiments in one of my classes to introduce the future tense / predictions etc.

    One was a bowl of water with some pepper in it. Get the kids to dip their finger in the centre and nothing happens. secretly put washing liquid on yours and do the same and all the pepper shoots to the side. Looks really cool and the kids love it, bit of shock value.

    There was another where you get an empty soda can and fill it up to a certain level with water. At that level you can balance it at an angle and it won't fall over, can be spinned around etc.

    There are all sorts of little experiements like this. Someone on Waygook also posted a megapack of science experiements you should try and search out. I don't think they used a lot of chemicals, just simple stuff and possibly a bit longer.

    Also the egg drop experiment (google it) is a cool little class that I'm hoping to get the chance to do for winter camp and science related but easy for all the kids of all levels to take part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭roosh


    I'm doing a "magic science class" with kids aged between 10-13.

    I've checked on the internet for some ideas, only a rough skim but does anyone have any experiments that could be done in an hour that doesn't involve any major chemicals.

    Most of the stuff I saw is for kids that would be taught daily etc. But from what I've been told this is just for a one day programme or a once off class.

    It might be worth asking in the popular science, or physics & chemistry section of boards as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 seamie89


    Hi all, just looking for some information...

    myself and my friend have passed the EPIK interview process and have sent off all our documents which they received today!
    I then received an email from EPIK to say that all the jobs in the metropolitan cities have been filled up...we are being advised to go for a province area.

    I was wondering if anyone has been working in a provincial area? where would you recomend as we would like somewhere near a metropolitan city if possible...? also an area which has other foreign teachers?

    thanks in advance :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 groovyspiderguy


    This is Epik so you won't actually have as much choice as you may think as regards where you end up!

    The big cities like Seoul and Busan are always the first to go. I'm in Gyeongbuk, Gyeongsanbukdo. The nearest city is Daegu at about 30 mins by train.

    But in my experience, the provincial areas are fine. There's a distinction made between these and the more remote rural areas. You won't end up being too remote unless you specify that as a preference!

    There will be other foreign teachers in most places - I know of one guy who is the only foreigner in his area - on an island - but he specifically chose that!

    Korea isn't a huge country also don't forget, so it's unlikely you'd be too far from 'civilisation' regardless of where they send you.

    Best thing to do is:

    -have a look at a map,
    -choose an area just to be able to sound focused,
    -come here and do your orientation and training,
    -sit on the bus wondering until they tell you your actual destination,
    -frantically try to find it in your lonely plannet book before you arrive at your new home, meet & greet co-teacher, and laugh about how in-control of things you thought you were.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭R.D. aka MR.D


    Hi all!

    Just wondering when you applied to the recruiting agencies did you send your normal irish style cv or did you send a special one?


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭rich1874


    cloneslad wrote: »
    Open frame (it's not a difficult as you may think)

    take out degree scroll

    photocopy degree

    put original back in frame

    bring photocopy to get notarised at a commissioner of oaths

    bring photocopy to dept of foreign affairs to be apostilled

    job done

    Are you sure about the Commisioner for Oaths thing? I think it has to be a public notary... I'm certain a Commisioner for Oaths is only authorised to verify legal documents like affidavits and other statements... Some can be very particular about what they put their name too... i would suggest looking for a Public Notary from the outset and avoiding the Commisioner for Oaths minefield..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    Hi all!

    Just wondering when you applied to the recruiting agencies did you send your normal irish style cv or did you send a special one?


    I just sent my normal one....make sure its up to date!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭red_bairn


    I just sent my normal one....make sure its up to date!

    what she said.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 groovyspiderguy


    Hi all!

    Just wondering when you applied to the recruiting agencies did you send your normal irish style cv or did you send a special one?


    *Bear in mind that in Korea, American English is used - so first off - changing things like 'CV' to 'RESUME' and ensuring American spelling is used are no harm!

    Also, obviously it has to be appropriate!
    You want to emphasize any teaching/mentoring type roles you've undertaken and experience/time spent with younger people.

    They'd have little interest in things like sales targets reached and the like.

    Little things like these can make a difference.


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