Tim Tebow

TheHeadhunter

Can somebody please explain to me why the pundits and just about everyone else are saying that Tim Tebow couldn't hack it as a pro QB? I mean 2 national championships, a Heisman trophy and a finalist for a second? His passing doesnt seem to be that bad and he sure can pound the rock.

I just dont understand why he wouldn't be a good pro?

Tristram

Strange feeling about déja vu with this.

http://www.scoresreport.com/2008/10/08/can-tim-tebow-be-an-nfl-quarterback/
http://thearena.wordpress.com/2007/12/10/tim-tebow-what-kind-of-pro/
http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/11012740
http://www.danshanoff.com/2008/12/tim-tebows-nfl-potential-mel-kiper-vs.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/12/sports/ncaafootball/12tebow.html?scp=1&sq=tebow&st=cse

Chucky the tree

Nice links Trisram, while this was written before he said he was staying in college I found this prediction comical.

I stand by my prediction that Bill Belichick will draft Tebow, then unleash him. (I wouldn't be surprised if Belichick made it clear through back-channels -- perhaps Beli BFF Urban Meyer -- that the Pats won't let Tebow slide past them in the 1st round.)

http://www.danshanoff.com/2008/12/tim-tebows-nfl-potential-mel-kiper-vs.html

Tristram

Yeah, I was unsure as to whether there was anything to Belichick-Tebow other than that one phone call that's mentioned.

davyjose

As I said before, and I'm sure eagle eye might add his spoke to this - Tim Tebow is too good NOT to make it in the NFL.
When he does (not if), I'm sure we'll have many debates about how "well, he's never gonna win a Super Bowl" or "yeah but he's no Manning or Brady" ad nauseum. But hey, a grudge is a grudge.

OP, watch the early morning CFB show on NASN, those guys think he'll make it too. So not all the pundits (i.e. not the ones who actually watch College Football) are wrong.

Chucky the tree

Mike Mayock view I think is spot on and Mayock is the best draft guy out of the big stations/networks.

"In a nutshell, I thought Vince [Young] was a winner ... I thought he was the kind of kid who made the people around him better. But I wasn't sure he was ever going to be able to pass the ball from the pocket well enough to lead an NFL team to a Super Bowl. Right now, I wonder the same thing about Tebow. ...

I would struggle as an NFL general manager drafting either guy [Tebow or Young] .... That's me, though. Whether it's Tebow or Young, you've got to completely retailor your offense to take advantage of what they do best. And in the event of an injury, is the next guy the same kind of guy?"

tallaghtoutlaws

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Mike Mayock view I think is spot on and Mayock is the best draft guy out of the big stations/networks.

I like Maycock. He always looks at things with logic. And I remember his piece on Vince Young haha

Tristram

davyjose wrote: »

As I said before, and I'm sure eagle eye might add his spoke to this - Tim Tebow is too good NOT to make it in the NFL.
When he does (not if), I'm sure we'll have many debates about how "well, he's never gonna win a Super Bowl" or "yeah but he's no Manning or Brady" ad nauseum. But hey, a grudge is a grudge.

OP, watch the early morning CFB show on NASN, those guys think he'll make it too. So not all the pundits (i.e. not the ones who actually watch College Football) are wrong.

What do you mean by 'make it'?

eagle eye

Davyjose and myself are in agreement here. And thats not normal:pac:

But I've said enough on the subject. My final comment still applies, I'm willing to wait and see and then say 'I told you so' when he wins his first ring after leading a team all the way.

Tristram

Is Tebow a great collegiate player? Yes
Will Tebow get drafted high? Yes
Will Tebow go great things in the NFL (Superbowls, MVPs)? No one can say.

The NFL is simply too unpredictable when it comes to players moving up from the college ranks.

Lets look at QB drafts from last 2000 on:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position

2008 - Quarterbacks
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 3 Matt Ryan Boston College Atlanta Falcons
1 18 Joe Flacco Delaware Baltimore Ravens
2 56 Brian Brohm Louisville Green Bay Packers
2 57 Chad Henne Michigan Miami Dolphins
3 94 Kevin O'Connell San Diego State New England Patriots
5 137 John David Booty USC Minnesota Vikings
5 156 Dennis Dixon Oregon Pittsburgh Steelers
5 160 Josh Johnson San Diego Tampa Bay Buccaneers
5 162 Erik Ainge Tennessee New York Jets
6 186 Colt Brennan Hawaii Washington Redskins
6 198 Andre Woodson Kentucky New York Giants
7 209 Matt Flynn Louisiana State Green Bay Packers
7 223 Alex Brink Washington State Houston Texans

2007 - Quarterbacks
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 1 JaMarcus Russell Louisiana State Oakland Raiders
1 22 Brady Quinn Notre Dame Cleveland Browns
2 36 Kevin Kolb Houston Philadelphia Eagles
2 40 John Beck Brigham Young Miami Dolphins
2 43 Drew Stanton Michigan State Detroit Lions
3 92 Trent Edwards Stanford Buffalo Bills
5 151 Jeff Rowe Nevada-Reno Cincinnati Bengals
5 174 Troy Smith Ohio State Baltimore Ravens
6 205 Jordan Palmer Texas-El Paso Washington Redskins
7 217 Tyler Thigpen Coastal Carolina Minnesota Vikings

2006 - Quarterbacks
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 3 Vince Young Texas Tennessee Titans
1 10 Matt Leinart USC Arizona Cardinals
1 11 Jay Cutler Vanderbilt Denver Broncos
2 49 Kellen Clemens Oregon New York Jets
2 64 Tarvaris Jackson Alabama State Minnesota Vikings
3 81 Charlie Whitehurst Clemson San Diego Chargers
3 85 Brodie Croyle Alabama Kansas City Chiefs
5 148 Ingle Martin Furman Green Bay Packers
5 164 Omar Jacobs Bowling Green State Pittsburgh Steelers
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski Toledo Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 223 D.J. Shockley Georgia Atlanta Falcons

2005 - Quarterbacks
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 1 Alex Smith Utah San Francisco 49ers
1 24 Aaron Rodgers California Green Bay Packers
1 25 Jason Campbell Auburn Washington Redskins
3 67 Charlie Frye Akron Cleveland Browns
3 69 Andrew Walter Arizona State Oakland Raiders
3 85 David Greene Georgia Seattle Seahawks
4 106 Kyle Orton Purdue Chicago Bears
4 121 Stefan LeFors Louisville Carolina Panthers
5 145 Dan Orlovsky Connecticut Detroit Lions
5 152 Adrian McPherson Florida State New Orleans Saints
6 213 Derek Anderson Oregon State Baltimore Ravens
7 230 Matt Cassel USC New England Patriots
7 250 Ryan Fitzpatrick Harvard St. Louis Rams

2004 - Quarterbacks
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 1 Eli Manning Mississippi San Diego Chargers
1 4 Philip Rivers North Carolina State New York Giants
1 11 Ben Roethlisberger Miami (Ohio) Pittsburgh Steelers
1 22 J.P. Losman Tulane Buffalo Bills
3 90 Matt Schaub Virginia Atlanta Falcons
4 106 Luke McCown Louisiana Tech Cleveland Browns
5 148 Craig Krenzel Ohio State Chicago Bears
6 185 Andy Hall Delaware Philadelphia Eagles
6 187 Josh Harris Bowling Green State Baltimore Ravens
6 193 Jim Sorgi Wisconsin Indianapolis Colts
6 201 Jeff Smoker Michigan State St. Louis Rams
7 202 John Navarre Michigan Arizona Cardinals
7 217 Cody Pickett Washington San Francisco 49ers
7 218 Casey Bramlet Wyoming Cincinnati Bengals
7 225 Matt Mauck Louisiana State Denver Broncos
7 248 B.J. Symons Texas Tech Houston Texans
7 250 Bradlee Van Pelt Colorado State Denver Broncos

2003 - Quarterbacks
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 1 Carson Palmer USC Cincinnati Bengals
1 7 Byron Leftwich Marshall Jacksonville Jaguars
1 19 Kyle Boller California Baltimore Ravens
1 22 Rex Grossman Florida Chicago Bears
3 88 Dave Ragone Louisville Houston Texans
3 97 Chris Simms Texas Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 110 Seneca Wallace Iowa State Seattle Seahawks
5 163 Brian St. Pierre Boston College Pittsburgh Steelers
6 192 Drew Henson Michigan Houston Texans
6 200 Brooks Bollinger Wisconsin New York Jets
6 201 Kliff Kingsbury Texas Tech New England Patriots
7 232 Gibran Hamdan Indiana Washington Redskins
7 241 Ken Dorsey Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers

2002 - Quarterbacks
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 1 David Carr Fresno State Houston Texans
1 3 Joey Harrington Oregon Detroit Lions
1 32 Patrick Ramsey Tulane Washington Redskins
3 81 Josh McCown Sam Houston State Arizona Cardinals
4 108 David Garrard East Carolina Jacksonville Jaguars
4 117 Rohan Davey Louisiana State New England Patriots
5 137 Randy Fasani Stanford Carolina Panthers
5 158 Kurt Kittner Illinois Atlanta Falcons
5 163 Brandon Doman Brigham Young San Francisco 49ers
5 164 Craig Nall Northwestern State-Louisiana Green Bay Packers
6 186 J.T. O'Sullivan California-Davis New Orleans Saints
7 216 Seth Burford Cal Poly-S.L.O. San Diego Chargers
7 232 Jeff Kelly Southern Mississippi Seattle Seahawks
7 235 Ronald Curry North Carolina Oakland Raiders
7 236 Wes Pate Stephen F. Austin St. Baltimore Ravens

2001 - Quarterbacks
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 1 Michael Vick Virginia Tech Atlanta Falcons
2 32 Drew Brees Purdue San Diego Chargers
2 53 Quincy Carter Georgia Dallas Cowboys
2 59 Marques Tuiasosopo Washington Oakland Raiders
4 106 Chris Weinke Florida State Carolina Panthers
4 109 Sage Rosenfels Iowa State Washington Redskins
4 125 Jesse Palmer Florida New York Giants
5 149 Mike McMahon Rutgers Detroit Lions
5 155 A.J. Feeley Oregon Philadelphia Eagles
6 172 Josh Booty Louisiana State Seattle Seahawks
6 177 Josh Heupel Oklahoma Miami Dolphins

2000 - Quarterbacks
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 18 Chad Pennington Marshall New York Jets
3 65 Giovanni Carmazzi Hofstra San Francisco 49ers
3 75 Chris Redman Louisville Baltimore Ravens
5 163 Tee Martin Tennessee Pittsburgh Steelers
6 168 Marc Bulger West Virginia New Orleans Saints
6 183 Spergon Wynn Texas State Cleveland Browns
6 199 Tom Brady Michigan New England Patriots
6 202 Todd Husak Stanford Washington Redskins
7 212 Tim Rattay Louisiana Tech San Francisco 49ers
7 214 Jarious Jackson Notre Dame Denver Broncos
7 234 Joe Hamilton Georgia Tech Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Whole lotta names there.

Tristram

Just to clarify as to the OP

TheHeadhunter wrote: »

I just dont understand why he wouldn't be a good pro?

I dont think there is any reason why Tebow cannot be a good pro. Just not so sure he will be a 'special one'.