Nigerian woman loses her deportation challenge

trailerparkboy

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/nigerian-woman-loses-latest-deportation-challenge-1616130.html

:D Finally after costing Irish taxpayers millions with her bogus claims she is going to be deported, looks like the judges of this country are waking up and and sensing the mood of people in this country, Ireland is no longer a soft touch.

Mena

You just copied and pasted this from your post on the Sligo forum? Nothing more to add?

Oh and just to ruin your day, she can't yet be deported by order of the European Court of Human Rights.

funk-you

Yes because everyone is here to scrounge:rolleyes: You seem a little too happy about this. Fair enough, the court decided she didn't have grounds to stay but i wouldn't be giving her the fingers on her way out.

-Funk

Genghiz Cohen

funk-you wrote: »

Yes because everyone is here to scrounge:rolleyes: You seem a little too happy about this. Fair enough, the court decided she didn't have grounds to stay but i wouldn't be giving her the fingers on her way out.

-Funk

This.
If someone is here to work and make their life better, fair play. Not everyone is coming here to get welfare payments.

Quazzie

trailerparkboy wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/nigerian-woman-loses-latest-deportation-challenge-1616130.html

:D Finally after costing Irish taxpayers millions with her bogus claims she is going to be deported, looks like the judges of this country are waking up and and sensing the mood of people in this country, Ireland is no longer a soft touch.

The system is still a soft touch as the judges and solicitors all still getting paid and thats the worst part about this. It'd cost less to leave her here

Darragh29

trailerparkboy wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/nigerian-woman-loses-latest-deportation-challenge-1616130.html

:D Finally after costing Irish taxpayers millions with her bogus claims she is going to be deported, looks like the judges of this country are waking up and and sensing the mood of people in this country, Ireland is no longer a soft touch.

Would these be the same judges who are giving bail to headcases who always seem to have been released on bail, before committing another serious crime???

smashey

Maybe she should have called herself one of the undocumented and lobbied the President.

Oh wait, that's what Irish people in the USA do.

Morlar

I dont think we can afford years and years of appeals (on the flimsiest of 'evidence') per bogus asylym seeker/welfare wannabe.

I think the system needs to be overhauled to streamline the process and reduce the countless flimsy appeals which go on for years and years costing an absolute fortune to Irish taxpayers.

It would only take a handful of these chancers legal fees and we would have paid for that cervical cancer screening programme.

Ally Dick

Best news I've had all day. Delighted that the Nigerian scrounger is gone. She can say hello to that other chancer Ukunle when she gets home.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

trailerparkboy wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/nigerian-woman-loses-latest-deportation-challenge-1616130.html

:D Finally after costing Irish taxpayers millions with her bogus claims she is going to be deported, looks like the judges of this country are waking up and and sensing the mood of people in this country, Ireland is no longer a soft touch.

Judges are not supposed to take into account "the mood of people in this country". They're supposed to go by facts and evidence, which is why we have "trials" and "laws" - most of which come with set sentencing should sentencing be required.

Ally Dick

This soft touch of a country let TOO MANY in during the boom years. The neo-liberals violently jumped down the throats of those who were against it. They said that we needed these people to keep our Celtic Tiger economy going. Now that the Celtic Tiger is over, will the neo-liberals now say that it is time for many of these people to leave ? No, they won't. The next trump card is to say that these people should stay because many of them are persecuted. That's horsesh!t in a lot of cases.

Rob_l

Ally Dick wrote: »

This soft touch of a country let TOO MANY in during the boom years. The neo-liberals violently jumped down the throats of those who were against it. They said that we needed these people to keep our Celtic Tiger economy going. Now that the Celtic Tiger is over, will the neo-liberals now say that it is time for many of these people to leave ? No, they won't. The next trump card is to say that these people should stay because many of them are persecuted. That's horsesh!t in a lot of cases.

I love terms like neo-liberal.

So is there no persecution of people in Africa?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Ally Dick wrote: »

This soft touch of a country let TOO MANY in during the boom years. The neo-liberals violently jumped down the throats of those who were against it. They said that we needed these people to keep our Celtic Tiger economy going. Now that the Celtic Tiger is over, will the neo-liberals now say that it is time for many of these people to leave ? No, they won't. The next trump card is to say that these people should stay because many of them are persecuted. That's horsesh!t in a lot of cases.

Ah, so the recession is all the immigrants' fault? And not that of the neo-cns in Ireland who spent ****loads more money they had combined with a ****-everyone-else attitude?

And there are no neo-liberals in Ireland. Trust me. Berlin has them, but not Dublin.

Morlar

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

And there are no neo-liberals in Ireland. Trust me. Berlin has them, but not Dublin.

No offence but what are you talking about ? Care to back that up with anything at all or should we just take your word for it ?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Ally Dick wrote: »

Best news I've had all day. Delighted that the Nigerian scrounger is gone. She can say hello to that other chancer Ukunle when she gets home.

I'm far from liberal on this, and after following her case through the media I think its the right decision to send her home, I do believe she's a bluffer.

But your type of language sickens me, even if she is a bluffer I think she should be allowed some dignity.

Mena

Ally Dick wrote: »

This soft touch of a country let TOO MANY in during the boom years. The neo-liberals violently jumped down the throats of those who were against it. They said that we needed these people to keep our Celtic Tiger economy going. Now that the Celtic Tiger is over, will the neo-liberals now say that it is time for many of these people to leave ? No, they won't. The next trump card is to say that these people should stay because many of them are persecuted. That's horsesh!t in a lot of cases.

Would you care to elaborate on who exactly you are referring to when you say "TOO MANY" were let in.

Are you talking about Asylum Seekers? Or Economic Migrants, or foreigners in general?

Morlar

Mairt wrote: »

I'm far from liberal on this, and after following her case through the media I think its the right decision to send her home, I do believe she's a bluffer.

But your type of language sickens me, even if she is a bluffer I think she should be allowed some dignity.

Not psychic or anything . . . but . .. I think that's probably a sign of how frustrated people genuinely are at the ridiculous expense of these never ending stream of chancers and their seemingly endless legal appeals.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Morlar wrote: »

No offence but what are you talking about ? Care to back that up with anything at all or should we just take your word for it ?

Berlin has a far stronger left-wing population by Dublin, by which I mean anarchist/punk/communist attitudes. I'd have thought it was common knowledge. I'm going by seven months living in the city, seeing them, meeting them, talking to them. It comes mainly from the city's history and a less Amercan approach to consumerism. This is, by definition, neo-liberalism.

Unless Ally Dick meant something completely different and just used the phrase "neo-liberal" because it sounded nice; in which case the confusion is his/her fault.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Morlar wrote: »

Not psychic or anything . . . but . .. I think that's probably a sign of how frustrated people genuinely are at the ridiculous expense of these never ending stream of chancers and their seemingly endless legal appeals.

I understand that, and privately I have a lot of strong opinions on her but I choose not to throw it out into the public domain in that manner.

Morlar

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Berlin has a far stronger left-wing population by Dublin, by which I mean anarchist/punk/communist attitudes. I'd have thought it was common knowledge. I'm going by seven months living in the city, seeing them, meeting them, talking to them. It comes mainly from the city's history and a less Amercan approach to consumerism. This is, by definition, neo-liberalism.

Unless Ally Dick meant something completely different and just used the phrase "neo-liberal" because it sounded nice; in which case the confusion is his/her fault.

History lessons aside - you did say there were none in Dublin right ?

Morlar

Mairt wrote: »

I understand that, and privately I have a lot of strong opinions on her but I choose not to throw it out into the public domain in that manner.

Fair enough - I do think a lot more people are fed up on this subject than the amount of people who go to the bother of airing those opinions (for all sorts of reasons).

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Morlar wrote: »

History lessons aside - you did say there were none in Dublin right ?

how, exactly, am I supposed to grant your wish for clarification without going into history...? And most of my post was regarding the present.
I've never seen any in Dublin, but perhaps "none" was an exaggeration. But there are very very few.

Mingey

Mena wrote: »

Would you care to elaborate on who exactly you are referring to when you say "TOO MANY" were let in.

Are you talking about Asylum Seekers? Or Economic Migrants, or foreigners in general?

Probably the Bleedin fordiners.

Hopefully her kids don't have to face up to the mutilation when they go home. At least this case if anything highlighted the horrors of it. The ones who carry it out should be made eat the feckin yokes.

ScumLord

Survivor. The winner gets immunity from being sent home.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Nigeria's a big place. Can't she just go back somewhere far away from the mutilators....

Dudess

Ally Dick wrote: »

This soft touch of a country let TOO MANY in during the boom years. The neo-liberals violently jumped down the throats of those who were against it. They said that we needed these people to keep our Celtic Tiger economy going. Now that the Celtic Tiger is over, will the neo-liberals now say that it is time for many of these people to leave ? No, they won't. The next trump card is to say that these people should stay because many of them are persecuted. That's horsesh!t in a lot of cases.

LOL - a "neo-liberal" is a supporter of free market economics, anything but a fuzzy hippy lefty.
Get your terms correct first...
LOL

DubLass

Did I hear that this woman already lost a child to female gential mutilation? Not sure Id want to go home either with two other little girls to worry about.

rkeane

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

Nigeria's a big place. Can't she just go back somewhere far away from the mutilators....

Of course she could, Nigeria is more than twice the size of the state of California for gods sake. Thankfully she is likely to be sent back before the end of March....she still has the ECHR ruling....and that's if they even see a point in getting involved. This woman has failed EVERY single appeal......she hasn't got a hope.

Dudess

Ah shur female genital mutilation http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/

Tis no grounds for granting asylum at all. Bit of cold water on it afterwards and it'll be grand...
And shur a lot of the time filthy implements are used, like bits of broken glass, twigs etc. But put a bit of Dettol on it and that'll clear up any infection.

Mingey

Ah, then they're grand. Just a flesh wound.

Terry

Dudess wrote: »

Ah shur female genital mutilation http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/

Tis no grounds for granting asylum at all. Bit of cold water on it afterwards and it'll be grand...
And shur a lot of the time filthy implements are used, like bits of broken glass, twigs etc. But put a bit of Dettol on it and that'll clear up any infection.

That's all well and good, but there is no proof that it will happen to her children and that's why her appeal failed.

Josie_dub

And thats something the one sided media won't print.

Ally Dick

Mena wrote: »

Would you care to elaborate on who exactly you are referring to when you say "TOO MANY" were let in.

Are you talking about Asylum Seekers? Or Economic Migrants, or foreigners in general?

Too many Nigerians. Too many Chinese. Too many Lithuanians. Too many Latvians. Too many Russians. Too many Romanians.

SV

Ally Dick wrote: »

Too many Nigerians. Too many Chinese. Too many Lithuanians. Too many Latvians. Too many Russians. Too many Romanians.

No Polish mentioned?

see, now that's weird.

Ally Dick

Dudess wrote: »

Ah shur female genital mutilation http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/

Tis no grounds for granting asylum at all. Bit of cold water on it afterwards and it'll be grand...
And shur a lot of the time filthy implements are used, like bits of broken glass, twigs etc. But put a bit of Dettol on it and that'll clear up any infection.

They're savages out there. If a Saudi person claims asylum in Ireland because they have committed a crime at home and are going to be beheaded or mutilated if they return, should be let them in ? I don't think so. It's a problem with their own country. They should start a revolution if they want to change it. Not run to Ireland expecting us to take them in.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Ally Dick wrote: »

Too many Nigerians. Too many Chinese. Too many Lithuanians. Too many Latvians. Too many Russians. Too many Romanians.

....too many greedy fvcking Irish.

Two of those nationalities are in the EU - you do know that don't you?

And we're stillwaiting for explanations of what you mean by "neo-liberal" and exactly how the foreigners are to blame for the crisis and not the greedy Irish.

panda100

DubLass wrote: »

Did I hear that this woman already lost a child to female gential mutilation? Not sure Id want to go home either with two other little girls to worry about.

Yeah her first child Elizabeth, died at 18 months from profuse bleeding due to FGM.
I am horrified to hear about the courts ruling. Having met Pamela and her beautiful two daughters it saddens me greatly. They are a family very much integrated into Irish life and I hope her appeal to the Supreme court is succesful.

confused-dazed

freedom of speech is allowed here i hope?.
there are alot of people out there that are afraid to speak their minds on issues like this in case they're called racists and thats a known fact. personally i'm delighted and my main reason is this.
they arrive here from whatever country they come from after country hopping and are immediatley housed and then go on strike if the food and accomodation isn't good enough this happened not to long ago by the way. everyday we see tens of homeless irish begging and sleeping rough on our streets and the government couldn't give a rats arse about them. another common fact is that alot of asy seekers are given s/w cheques to buy second hand cars. it's common practise for them to leave perfectly good buggies on buses knowing quiet well that they'll get a brand new one of the s/w.i have travelled on buses where a driver has told them they're forgetting the buggy and the reply was" they dont want it because they'll get a new one within days". no offence but to me our government should look after our own homeless first then the asy seekers and if it means leaving them on the streets then fair enough.i can guarantee you they'll be some other countrys problem within days if left on the streets.
now after all this i'm waiting for all the do-gooders out there to take a swipe at me

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panda100

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So what will happen to the family in the meantime? Do they stay in Ireland?

Ally Dick

confused-dazed wrote: »

now after all this i'm waiting for all the do-gooders out there to take a swipe at me

I agree with you entirely. Well said. I remember that in the throes of the Celtic Tiger boom, Dermot Ahern was on record as saying that he would do everything in his power "to speed up" the asylum seeking process. I can guarantee you that this has caused us our current problems. Bloody leeching non-EU migrants everywhere.

rkeane

Btw I'm a qualified pilot, in this era of cut backs I'm willing to do my patriotic duty and fly them back to Nigeria.......for free!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Ally Dick wrote: »

I agree with you entirely. Well said. I remember that in the throes of the Celtic Tiger boom, Dermot Ahern was on record as saying that he would do everything in his power "to speed up" the asylum seeking process. I can guarantee you that this has caused us our current problems. Bloody leeching non-EU migrants everywhere.

Dunno about the do-gooders, but the rest of us have been taking "swipes" at you for a while now. You've been ignoring them.

Actually, can I add "do-gooders" to the list of clarifications I'm STILL wainting on from you?

Nodin

confused-dazed wrote: »

. another common fact is that alot of asy seekers are given s/w cheques to buy second hand cars.

Thats actually not true.

Whats a "common fact" btw?

Mena

Ally Dick wrote: »

Bloody leeching non-EU migrants everywhere.

Hah, I'm non-EU and would almost be sure I've paid twice the taxes you have in the eight years I've been here. Stop generalising. If you have a problem with bogus asylum seekers, make your case. If you have a problem with real asylum seekers, you have issues I can't help with. If you have a problem with non-EU migrants here earning money and paying taxes... so be it, but don't for one second lump us all together as it just shows a level of ignorance I never imagined the Irish could posses.

panda100

Ally Dick wrote: »

I can guarantee you that this has caused us our current problems. Bloody leeching non-EU migrants everywhere.

If you really think immigrants caused this recession you are seriously deluded and are readin far too much of the Evening Herald. Yeah it was Pamela and her two 7 year old kids who cause shops to go into administration,global markets crashing, banks to collapse,buisnessess into bankrupcy.... :rolleyes:

Your anger might be better directed at corrupt politicans, bankers, speculators, developers and greedy corporations.

Ally Dick

Mena wrote: »

Hah, I'm non-EU and would almost be sure I've paid twice the taxes you have in the eight years I've been here

I'm working 25 years so I very much doubt that

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Boskowski

Mena wrote: »

but don't for one second lump us all together as it just shows a level of ignorance I never imagined the Irish could posses.

Katschingggggg. Oxymoron alert.

Mena

Ally Dick wrote: »

I'm working 25 years so I very much doubt that

You're dodging the point. Your gross generalisations show nothing but a close minded xenophobic attitude and do nothing but foster poor relations and spread lies and innacuracies about what is going on out there.

Rant all you want about bogus asylum cases and illegal immigrants, I'll join you, but don't be tarring us all with the same brush.