Its not looking good for Ireland

Stacksey

3 of our best internationals: Robbie Keane, Damien Duff and Richard Dunne have all hit a huge dip in form and its not good news for the irish team, We have relied on these players for the last 8 years or so and we still need to reply on them in terms of qualification for the next world cup

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Damien Duff hit a "dip" in form in 2002 tbh.

Stacksey

Duffer was our star player in 2002 lets not forget and he's always been great for ireland even when not playing well for his club, he needs to get away from Newcastle ASAP and move to someone like Blackburn, he's still only 28

eagle eye

Yeah Robbie Keanes dip is worrying, he played five good games, got dropped played one bad one and got dropped again.

stovelid

Des wrote: »

Damien Duff hit a "dip" in form in 2002 tbh.

This kind of 'dip':

Mr Alan

5 good games?! do fill me in.

Nalz

eagle eye wrote: »

Yeah Robbie Keanes dip is worrying, he played five good games, got dropped played one bad one and got dropped again.

I think he'll be okay, he's just gettin fcuked about at Liverpool for some reason.

Its Dunne I'd be more concerned about, no confidence in a back four where John O Shea is by far the player with the best form coming up to the Georgia game.

Expect alot from McGeady and Doyle though, we have enough to beat this lot 2-0 or more please God.

Nalz

Mr Alan wrote: »

5 good games?! do fill me in.

He definitely had 3 good games anyway as far as I remember.

Mr Alan

2 good games on the trot. Followed by a stinker at Preston. He was rightfully dropped.

He has played nearly 30 games for Liverpool, hes gotta do better.

Stacksey

I couldnt believe how bad he was at Preston, just didnt look like a footballer in my opinion,

LuckyLloyd

Mr Alan wrote: »

5 good games?! do fill me in.

Man Utd at home
Both PSV games
Bolton at home
West Brom at home

for starters...

YDMHSSB

Mr Alan wrote: »

2 good games on the trot. Followed by a stinker at Preston. He was rightfully dropped.

He has played nearly 30 games for Liverpool, hes gotta do better.

spot on mr a.

as regards the topic, im not too worried. international form and club form are 2 totally different things. prime example - david healy.

Mr Alan

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Man Utd at home
Both PSV games
Bolton at home
West Brom at home

for starters...

oh i wasnt doubting he didnt have more than 2 good games, was just saying that he hasnt had more than that on the bounce.

i'd say he's had about 7 good games. out of 30 odd appearances, thats not good enough. full stop.

grames_bond

Mr Alan wrote: »

He has played nearly 30 games for Liverpool, hes gotta do better.

no way!? :eek: (the 30 games bit, not the gotta do better bit, coz everyone can see thats the case)

keane really is a confidence player....he was idolised at spurs so played very well, with liverpool firstly the manger never wanted him, he was down the pecking order, and wasnt needed like he was at spurs. this, as we can all see, resulted in less game time and shot his confidence so when he did play....the majority of his games he hasnt been great! now im not a pool fan but for irelands sake i really hope he gets some of his confidence back! rafa really needs to trust him, he is a good player!

Mr Alan

grames_bond wrote: »

no way!? :eek: (the 30 games bit, not the gotta do better bit, coz everyone can see thats the case)

keane really is a confidence player....he was idolised at spurs so played very well, with liverpool firstly the manger never wanted him, he was down the pecking order, and wasnt needed like he was at spurs. this, as we can all see, resulted in less game time and shot his confidence so when he did play....the majority of his games he hasnt been great! now im not a pool fan but for irelands sake i really hope he gets some of his confidence back! rafa really needs to trust him, he is a good player!

tbh, why would Rafa give a **** about Ireland.

Keane will regain his form & confidence, when the player he was bought to play alongside, Torres, is back to match fitness.

But the onus is on Robbie to show Rafa he is deserved of a place in the side, not the other way around-too much is on the line for Rafa to be molly coddling Keane.

SectionF

This squad is seriously thin on talent. In almost any position, all it takes is a dip in form, an injury, or the coach taking a dislike to a player and we are in trouble. Part of a long-term trend as the game has been changing.

grames_bond

Mr Alan wrote: »

tbh, why would Rafa give a **** about Ireland.

Keane will regain his form & confidence, when the player he was bought to play alongside, Torres, is back to match fitness.

But the onus is on Robbie to show Rafa he is deserved of a place in the side, not the other way around-too much is on the line for Rafa to be molly coddling Keane.

agreed but if rafa doesnt give him the chance he'll never be able to prve himself! i know he has 30-odd appearances, but comin on towards the end of games cant help!

Mr Alan

grames_bond wrote: »

but comin on towards the end of games cant help!

thats only happened in a couple of games.

spockety

Oh look, another bash Rafa/Liverpool/Keane thread. :rolleyes:

*dons tinfoil hat*

noodler

Yeah he played crap at Preston and was rightly dropped.

Course he played well against Arsenal and Bolton and then was also dropped.

Mr Alan

noodler wrote: »

Yeah he played crap at Preston and was rightly dropped.

Course he played well against Arsenal and Bolton and then was also dropped.

em, the Arsenal & Bolton game were before the Preston game?! and he wasnt dropped after either of them...he was rested after the Bolton game (like a lot of our key players) cause we played Newcastle 2 days later

newballsplease

On the Plus side, i see Stephen Kelly has moved to Stoke. Regular premeirship football for him so. Thats if he plays.......

anladmór

seamus coleman on the bench for everton tonight a mere few days after joining. the future is green. deadly full back, the irish cafu you could say.

newballsplease

anladmór wrote: »

seamus coleman on the bench for everton tonight a mere few days after joining. the future is green. deadly full back, the irish cafu you could say.

jezze didnt know he was on the bench. yea he joined from sligo rovers for 60,000 i think. good player.

eirebhoy

anladmór wrote: »

seamus coleman on the bench for everton tonight a mere few days after joining. the future is green. deadly full back, the irish cafu you could say.

We badly need a left back too. It's good to see a lot of our U21s playing regularly. Nolan at right back is getting games on loan at Preston. Spillane, centre half, has started almost every game on loan at Luton this season. Garvan, McCarthy and O'Toole in midfield are all first teamers at their clubs and all have been linked with premiership moves in recent months. Sheridan has played a bit for Celtic this season and will now get games on loan at Motherwell. And Scannell is starting most games for Palace.

OK it's not the level of the England U21s but in comparison to U21 teams of the past they're pretty experienced. I think all of them have been playing U21 level for a while now which is an advantage over the other international teams.

keane2097

I wouldn't be too worried about Robbie Keane as I don't think he played well for Ireland even when he was doing well for Spurs tbh.

As mentioned earlier Dunne is the big problem, but hopefully he doesn't carry his club form to international duty with him...