Iceland is to be fast tracked into EU Membership.

WooPeeA

Because there is no such thing like neutrality! Have you ever seen neutral country? I didn't. Even isolated North Korea is not neutral...

Government just say about neutrality because they need money that they don't have. So the easiest way is to say people we're neutral and save money on army.

Scofflaw

WooPeeA wrote: »

Because there is no such thing as neutrality ! Have you ever seen neutral country? I didn't. Even North Korea is not neutral...

Government just say about neutrality because they need money that they don't have. So the easiest way is to say people we're neutral and save money on army.

Actually, neutrals are supposed to be able to defend themselves. Nearly all the other neutral countries have extremely strong militaries for their size. During WW2, Ireland had to mount 'harbour defence' (a couple of lads with rifles in a rowboat) to at least give the impression that that they were genuinely neutral.

cordially,
Scofflaw

WooPeeA

Most constitutions obligate the governments to protect their people. And most of governments respect that law, unfortunately some of them do not.

I think it can say a lot about the government.

turgon

WooPeeA wrote: »

Government just say about neutrality because they need money that they don't have. So the easiest way is to say people we're neutral and save money on army.

Sweden has the reputation of having one of the best armies in the world, and Switzerland can muster something like 2.4 million soldiers within 24 of an invasion, so I wouldn't agree!

But Iceland is definitely not neutral, it is a member of NATO asfaik.

WooPeeA

turgon wrote: »

Sweden has the reputation of having one of the best armies in the world, and Switzerland can muster something like 2.4 million soldiers within 24 of an invasion, so I wouldn't agree!

But Iceland is definitely not neutral, it is a member of NATO asfaik.

So isn't Sweden.

Membership in European Defense Agency and the EU doesn't make country neutral on international stage. Military activity in Afghanistan also.

Scofflaw

WooPeeA wrote: »

So isn't Sweden.

Membership in European Defense Agency and the EU doesn't make country neutral on international stage. Military activity in Afghanistan also.

Neutrality isn't a case of never having any allies. It has virtually no meaning in peacetime.

cordially,
Scofflaw

derry

Iceland due to it strong bonds to Denmark with the viking history who en route to iceland grapped a few Irish girls who ran entusastically down to the beach to check out these hunky danes with three tools to do the busness with then .After abeach party they all went to iceland and made lots of crazy Icelandics who still practice viking tradition of baby first marrage second

Denamark got taken by the Nazi regime so the Icleandics helped USA to fight germany for WW2 and a lot of yanks who were based there welched on the baby first marrage second part of the deal and went back to the USA minus the new wife or baby

Seeing as Iceland is now half breeds of USA and Danes and Scotish and Irish we all need to chip in a bit to pull them out of the hole.About $10 a person from the Irish Scotish Danes and the USA army would solve Icelands problems

Problem is when you need money no friends are to be found and eaten bread forgotten and NWO and Russian Mafia are set to carving up the gaff

Err 0.3% or 0.3% is hair spliting a fly or a flea on a dog is neither here no there it still a small insect compared to the size of the dog it hitches the ride on and only one scrastch from being wiped out

If The regime here hadnt screwed the gaff we could help more but all we can tell the IIcelandics is inside the EU or outside when your a flea or a fly your screwed and the EU havent finished screwing this Ireland err Iceland places yet

Dont expect the Yanks to help good old sod Ireland look what they didnt do for iceland which even gave them warm beds and miltary bases in Iceland

Derry

ChocolateSauce

I would fully support their entry, provided Lisbon is passed. The last thing we need is 250,000 people with their own veto who only want in for a bailout. As soon as the recession problem is fixed, they'd start being isolationist again.

turgon

ChocolateSauce as far as I know the countries who joined the EU in 2007 automatically ratified the Lisbon Treaty without anymore votes. It prob would be the same for Iceland: the treaty permitting them to join would ratify the Treaty on their behalf or something. Ok I know thats bad phrasing Scofflaw???

Scofflaw

turgon wrote: »

ChocolateSauce as far as I know the countries who joined the EU in 2007 automatically ratified the Lisbon Treaty without anymore votes. It prob would be the same for Iceland: the treaty permitting them to join would ratify the Treaty on their behalf or something. Ok I know thats bad phrasing Scofflaw???

Yes - if Iceland joined, their referendum on membership would encompass their ratification of Lisbon, as was the case for the countries that joined in 2007.

cordially,
Scofflaw

derry

If you want to join the club you got to pay the entry fee sell your soul

ROI had to go throught the ritual vote yes or no
France and Holland which voted no had the treaty lumped on them through a back door manover as those regimes are border line fachist regimes where the state knows better than the people and who needs democrasy anyway. When the EU eletite rich want something they know the buttons to push to get it and old money rules and divides up the botty

Once we vote yes to the refedum mark 2 we vote to become stallig work camp 99 in the EU slave camp

If Iceland get caught in the same trap as the ROI is nearly in then the EU will control 1/2 of the atlantic ocean and will ensure the spanish fishing fleet vacum clean strip mines all the fish from the atlantic to extiction


Derry

Hitman Actual

derry wrote: »

If Iceland get caught in the same trap as the ROI is nearly in then the EU will control 1/2 of the atlantic ocean and will ensure the spanish fishing fleet vacum clean strip mines all the fish from the atlantic to extiction
Derry

Screw that, if Iceland want in, we should try to get first dibs on their fish. :rolleyes:

Scofflaw

derry wrote: »

If you want to join the club you got to pay the entry fee sell your soul

ROI had to go throught the ritual vote yes or no
France and Holland which voted no had the treaty lumped on them through a back door manover as those regimes are border line fachist regimes where the state knows better than the people and who needs democrasy anyway. When the EU eletite rich want something they know the buttons to push to get it and old money rules and divides up the botty

Once we vote yes to the refedum mark 2 we vote to become stallig work camp 99 in the EU slave camp

If Iceland get caught in the same trap as the ROI is nearly in then the EU will control 1/2 of the atlantic ocean and will ensure the spanish fishing fleet vacum clean strip mines all the fish from the atlantic to extiction

Derry

amused,
Scofflaw

aseireann

Is there is any connection between the mining of 'Bauxite' in Iceland 'Alcoa', the IMF and the collapse of the banking sector?...I have read reports of similar events that have brought Jamaica to its knees...surely this isn't a coincidence?

derry

aseireann wrote: »

Is there is any connection between the mining of 'Bauxite' in Iceland 'Alcoa', the IMF and the collapse of the banking sector?...I have read reports of similar events that have brought Jamaica to its knees...surely this isn't a coincidence?

Now why wouldnt a IMF run by criminals of the EU and crimininals of the USA not try to seize a small rich Island like Iceland full of cheap hydro and geothermal electricity and full for Aluminum .Its a no brainer to conspire to rob the locals of Iceland what they own .Throw in the value of the fish and the 200 mile limit where the chances to find huge oil feilds exist it is a no brainer to pay the heads of the Banks of Iceland a lot of kick backs to bankrupt the gaff so they can steal it from the locals
Rather similar to ROI where the heads of the ROI banking world are dragging ROI down so we surrender to the almighty EU and the IMF that controls the EU


Derry

Scofflaw

derry wrote: »

Now why wouldnt a IMF run by criminals of the EU and crimininals of the USA not try to seize a small rich Island like Iceland full of cheap hydro and geothermal electricity and full for Aluminum .Its a no brainer to conspire to rob the locals of Iceland what they own .Throw in the value of the fish and the 200 mile limit where the chances to find huge oil feilds exist it is a no brainer to pay the heads of the Banks of Iceland a lot of kick backs to bankrupt the gaff so they can steal it from the locals
Rather similar to ROI where the heads of the ROI banking world are dragging ROI down so we surrender to the almighty EU and the IMF that controls the EU

If you're seriously suggesting that the bankrupting of Iceland (and Ireland) was the result of a deliberate plot by 'crimininals' (sic), I'll ask you to take it to the Conspiracy Forum.

repressively,
Scofflaw