How long until society collapses

LoveDucati2 · 31-01-2009 2:22pm #1

I am curious to get some opinions on how long it would take until society collapses.

How long would it take for complete anarchy to break out in Ireland if the following happens next year.

The country has massive strikes and demonstrations and defaults on all loans. 500,000 people on the dole.

Power and water get cut off and goods transportation stops, shops run out of food because of stockpiling, all government services cease.

Hows many days of this would be needed for a complete breakdown of society?

Latchy · 31-01-2009 2:26pm

Head for the hills .......now .

A few days / a week at the most

LoveDucati2 · 31-01-2009 2:33pm

latchyco wrote: »

Head for the hills .......now .

A few days / a week at the most

Yeah, I was thinking 3 or 4 days, defo within 7,

what do you think would happen?

mike65 · 31-01-2009 2:34pm

Jebus I'm willing to bet neither of you are old enough to remember the 80s then?

/latchyco may be joking.

old boy · 31-01-2009 2:34pm

where will it start ?

LoveDucati2 · 31-01-2009 2:36pm

mike65 wrote: »

Jebus I'm willing to bet neither of you are old enough to remember the 80s then?

/latchyco may be joking.

I did my leaving cert in the 80's, this is nothing like that.

ejmaztec · 31-01-2009 2:37pm

I'll need at least ten days to finish redecorating my bunker. It's been sadly neglected since the Bay of Pigs.

Latchy · 31-01-2009 2:38pm

mike65 wrote: »

Jebus I'm willing to bet neither of you are old enough to remember the 80s then?

/latchyco may be joking.

About the first bit yes , the second was just a rough guess .Old enough to remember the 80s recession well .

Partially why I still live in uk now .

Latchy · 31-01-2009 2:41pm

LoveDucati2 wrote: »

Yeah, I was thinking 3 or 4 days, defo within 7,

what do you think would happen?

If law and order broke down I imagine some people will panic more than others ( for obious reasons, food ,petrol shortages etc , ) and the goverment would be relying on it's more affulent and educated citizens to give guidence and support in their local communitys .But that's the worst case scenario and not nessacarlly going to happen .

ejmaztec · 31-01-2009 2:49pm

Unfortunately, the criminal elements would be well-armed. With a break-down in law and order they would capitalise on that. Does anyone think that a relatively small army would be able to handle that situation?

Dob74 · 31-01-2009 2:55pm

LoveDucati2 wrote: »

I am curious to get some opinions on how long it would take until society collapses.

How long would it take for complete anarchy to break out in Ireland if the following happens next year.

The country has massive strikes and demonstrations and defaults on all loans. 500,000 people on the dole.

Power and water get cut off and goods transportation stops, shops run out of food because of stockpiling, all government services cease.

Hows many days of this would be needed for a complete breakdown of society?

Worst case scenario

Workers from around the country join the waterford crystal workers in protests. After a month of scuffles serious rioting brokes out. Government has to bail out AIB/BOI which causes the gov to default on its loans. IMF called in and immediately lay-off 25% on public service. Coming into christmas hudreds of homes have there heating cut off. Intense rioting in Dublin means the dail is moved to the Curragh. Most city centres throughout the country are seriously damaged by fire and become no go areas. Military generals place the cabinet under house arrest and place themselves in power.

Latchy · 31-01-2009 2:58pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Unfortunately, the criminal elements would be well-armed. With a break-down in law and order they would capitalise on that. Does anyone think that a relatively small army would be able to handle that situation?

No , and the soldiers will have their own families in mind should any civil unrest occur .

LoveDucati2 · 31-01-2009 2:59pm

Dob74 wrote: »

Worst case scenario

Workers from around the country join the waterford crystal workers in protests. After a month of scuffles serious rioting brokes out. Government has to bail out AIB/BOI which causes the gov to default on its loans. IMF called in and immediately lay-off 25% on public service. Coming into christmas hudreds of homes have there heating cut off. Intense rioting in Dublin means the dail is moved to the Curragh. Most city centres throughout the country are seriously damaged by fire and become no go areas. Military generals place the cabinet under house arrest and place themselves in power.

Yeah, this is good stuff, the longer it goes on the worse it gets.

Scofflaw · 31-01-2009 3:01pm

One can always talk to ones neighbours.

cordially,
Scofflaw

population · 31-01-2009 3:01pm

I am fairly sure that ours is the one country in the world that couldnt put together a military coup.

The army would have to organise to meet the social partners blah blah blah

Poccington · 31-01-2009 3:04pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Unfortunately, the criminal elements would be well-armed. With a break-down in law and order they would capitalise on that. Does anyone think that a relatively small army would be able to handle that situation?

With the fact that criminals will be armed?

They're armed but don't have a large enough amount of weaponry or ammunition to carry out any kind of sustained "Operation" if you will, which is something we're already aware of. They'd be a threat to members of the DF who were maybe operating in small numbers but could still be contained. If they were to try anything on a Section of troops or more, it'd be suicide.

The larger problem the DF would face if everything was to go tits up, would be Riot situations.

Permabear · 31-01-2009 3:08pm

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mike65 · 31-01-2009 3:12pm

Worst case senario - nothing much happens.

Latchy · 31-01-2009 3:28pm

People might be to complacent , indifferent and not botherd about rioting , specially if there's something decent on the television .

People will be to busy watching news reports of civil unrest .;)

nesf · 31-01-2009 3:30pm

LoveDucati2 wrote: »

The country has massive strikes and demonstrations and defaults on all loans.

Massive strikes? Demonstrations? This is nothing compared to what happened 20 years ago and is relatively mild compared to what's going on in France right now never mind Iceland et al. The couldn't even release the unemployment figures in France yesterday because the statisticians are on strike...

You people are naive if you think this level of unrest is severe..

ejmaztec · 31-01-2009 4:27pm

I think that people here are gluttons for punishment and never did like change. Perhaps there's an as yet undiscovered Catholic guilt gene.

If the current problems persist, perhaps in 800 years, a few people might decide that it would be a good idea to do something about it.

It's going to be dumb insolence and moaning until then.

mike65 · 31-01-2009 4:29pm

google outage more important for more people I reckon.

galwayrush · 31-01-2009 4:30pm

population wrote: »

I am fairly sure that ours is the one country in the world that couldnt put together a military coup.

The army would have to organise to meet the social partners blah blah blah

No point meeting the social partners for a talk,
I thought our Army was deaf............;)

ChocolateSauce · 31-01-2009 4:48pm

If it didn't happen during WWII it won't happen due to rocky economics.

ejmaztec · 31-01-2009 4:56pm

ChocolateSauce wrote: »

If it didn't happen during WWII it won't happen due to rocky economics.

They didn't have Boards.ie then and were still sh1t-scared of their local clergy.:P

RealityCheck · 31-01-2009 5:00pm

This is Ireland not France. We dont do mass sporadic rioting. It would be too much of an effort for most.;)

Tabnabs · 31-01-2009 5:53pm

When did they start handing out hatchets in here? Because there are people running around like headless chickens :rolleyes:

NewDubliner · 31-01-2009 6:34pm

LoveDucati2 wrote: »

I am curious to get some opinions on how long it would take until society collapses....Hows many days of this would be needed for a complete breakdown of society?

We have a society because for hundreds of years, millions of ordinary, decent people realised that by cooperating with each other trading goods and services, we could all enjoy a safe, comfortable standard of living.

Perhaps in past decades we took this civilised bond for granted, but it's times like this that might encourage people to pay more attention to how society works and....make it work.

Darragh29 · 31-01-2009 6:37pm

I know the situation is that bad, but is it really going to descend into the kind of fire & brimstone type scenario being painted here???

ejmaztec · 31-01-2009 6:52pm

NewDubliner wrote: »

We have a society because for hundreds of years, millions of ordinary, decent people realised that by cooperating with each other trading goods and services, we could all enjoy a safe, comfortable standard of living.

Perhaps in past decades we took this civilised bond for granted, but it's times like this that might encourage people to pay more attention to how society works and....make it work.

Don't mention the wars.

NewDubliner · 31-01-2009 6:56pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Don't mention the wars.

That was where one society tried to take out another. For example, if things get so bad, that the UK decides to invade us to get our natural resources (and our best looking women).

We could declare war on the US, then they'd have to invade and rebuild our country?

Or we could try and do a 'Switzerland'.

How long until society collapses

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