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GOP elects new chairman, who is black

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  • 31-01-2009 4:56pm
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    CtrlSource
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    From the Irish Times:

    Republicans elect first black national chairman

    The US Republican Party chose its first black national chairman, just shy of three months after the nation elected a Democrat as the first black president.

    The choice marked no less than “the dawn of a new party,” declared the new chairman, Michael Steele, former lieutenant governor of Maryland. Republicans chose Mr Steele over four other candidates.

    Mr Steele takes the helm of a beleaguered political party that is trying to recover after crushing defeats in November’s national elections that gave Democrats control of Congress put Barack Obama in the White House.

    Republican delegates erupted in cheers and applause when Mr Steele’s victory was announced, but it took six ballots to get there. He will serve a two-year term.

    Mr Steele, an attorney, is a conservative, but he was considered the most moderate of the five candidates running. He also was considered an outsider because he is not a member of the Republican National Committee.

    But the 168-member RNC clearly signalled it wanted a change after eight years of Mr Bush largely dictating its every move as the party’s standard-bearer. Mr Steele became the first black candidate elected to statewide office in Maryland in 2002, and he made an unsuccessful Senate run in 2006.

    The former chairman of the Maryland Republican Party currently serves as chairman of Gopac, an organisation that recruits and trains Republican political candidates. In that role he has been a frequent presence on the television talk show circuit.

    He vowed to expand the reach of the party by competing for every group, everywhere. “We’re going to say to friend and foe alike: ‘We want you to be a part of us. We want you to with be with us.‘ And for those who wish to obstruct, get ready to get knocked over,” Mr Steele said.

    “There is not one inch of ground that we’re going to cede to anybody,” he added. “This is the dawn of a new party moving in a new direction with strength and conviction.”

    AP


    Interesting. Personally i think his colour is of no relevance and i'm not about to jump on a "they're copying the Democrats" bandwagon. But it does seem to reflect a change in the influence of the Right on the party


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    Overheal
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    In before Jon Stewart.


    I apologize, but they really must be cluthing at straw here, this goes back to Palin's nomination. Mark me, next you will see the governor of Texas replaced by a legally blind mexican.


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    CtrlSource
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    A lot of cynicism left me on the 20th of January. Maybe i'm just being naïve


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    jank
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    Well unless their policies change to be more inclusive then this has **** all meaning.


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    norbert64
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    The few times I saw him when I used to watch H&C, he seemed fairly reasonable.

    IMHO, he seemed rather moderate in fact.

    I guess they won't be returning to so called true conservatism a la Palin/Huckabee then.


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    The Mad Hatter
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    CtrlSource wrote: »
    Mr Steele, an attorney, is a conservative, but he was considered the most moderate of the five candidates running.

    I think this is of far more interest. Yes, he may be the token black as much as Palin was the token woman/token fool, but if the Republican party are electing moderates to positions of authority it really suggests a good change in direction for the party.


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    JohnMc1
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    jank wrote: »
    Well unless their policies change to be more inclusive then this has **** all meaning.

    They are inclusive enough. They just expect immigrants to act like like they want to be here by assimilating.


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    jank
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    Thats fair enough but they want to classify millions of immigrants as criminals.
    No wonder they lost those votes.


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    JohnMc1
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    jank wrote: »
    Thats fair enough but they want to classify millions of immigrants as criminals.
    No wonder they lost those votes.

    If you climbed over a rusted chain link fence in the middle of the night to enter America you did commit a criminal act. The Rep Party is not anti-immigration. They are anti-Illegal Immigration.


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    Overheal
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    If you climbed over a rusted chain link fence in the middle of the night to enter America you did commit a criminal act. The Rep Party is not anti-immigration. They are anti-Illegal Immigration.
    A distinction they are not very good at keeping clear ;)


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    JohnMc1
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    Overheal wrote: »
    A distinction they are not very good at keeping clear ;)

    They have always been clear about that. Its just the liberal media loves to misquote it to scare monger [ohh. Wait a minute only the Conservatives do that. :rolleyes:]


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    Overheal
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    They have always been clear about that. Its just the liberal media loves to misquote it to scare monger [ohh. Wait a minute only the Conservatives do that. :rolleyes:]
    Everyone knows that kind of carry on is beneath the Islamifascists :pac:


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    JohnMc1
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Everyone knows that kind of carry on is beneath the Islamifascists :pac:

    Hope and Change :rolleyes:


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    jank
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHPm_TEQ0PA

    Well this is what the so called leader of the conservative movement has to say about it. Lets bring in the enabling act sure. That will solve eveything!:cool:


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    jank
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    If you climbed over a rusted chain link fence in the middle of the night to enter America you did commit a criminal act. The Rep Party is not anti-immigration. They are anti-Illegal Immigration.

    I agree, but there are millions of "criminals" in the states. What do you want to do about it? Deport them all? The fact is they are there....

    Anyway just because you get a speeding ticket doesnt mean that you are a criminal or does it?


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    JohnMc1
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    jank wrote: »
    I agree, but there are millions of "criminals" in the states. What do you want to do about it? Deport them all? The fact is they are there....

    Anyway just because you get a speeding ticket doesnt mean that you are a criminal or does it?

    Make it tough for them and they'll deport themselves.


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    Black Swan
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Make it tough for them and they'll deport themselves.

    Not in the spirit of the inscription on the Statue of Liberty?

    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    Maybe the Republicans (of like mind) should lobby for the inscription to be changed to reflect their current mood?

    It is of no consequence to me that the current US president is African-American and that the new GOP chairman is also. Professional qualifications are more important when they attempt to do their respective jobs rather than their racial heritage.


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    Running Bing
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    Blue_Lagoon wrote: »
    Not in the spirit of the inscription on the Statue of Liberty?

    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    Maybe the Republicans (of like mind) should lobby for the inscription to be changed to reflect their current mood?

    Its not solely a republican issue though is it? Will Obama now do away with the borders and take in anybody who wants to be there? Would any democrat?

    Is that really feasible and how much relevance does a 19th century sonnet have to modern America and the issues it faces?
    It is of no consequence to me that the current US president is African-American and that the new GOP chairman is also. Professional qualifications are more important when they attempt to do their respective jobs rather than their racial heritage.

    Agree. I could'nt care less and I even think it is slightly disrespectful to people like Barrack Obama and Michael Steele to constantly harp on about the colour of their skin. They have not got to where they are today because they are black.


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    Pocono Joe
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    Babybing wrote: »
    Its not solely a republican issue though is it? Will Obama now do away with the borders and take in anybody who wants to be there? Would any democrat?

    Not entirely in my opinion, but 30 million new voters registering Democrat will ensure the death of the Republican party. I'm pretty sure this is what they have in mind. I do realize I'm part of a dying breed and see an end to the two party system, but I won't go down without a fight.


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    jank
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    Maybe you can join your friends in Idaho:D


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    Pocono Joe
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    Idaho??? You lost me there, or is there just some odd fixation with potatoes involved here.


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    JohnMc1
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    Blue_Lagoon wrote: »
    Not in the spirit of the inscription on the Statue of Liberty?

    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    Maybe the Republicans (of like mind) should lobby for the inscription to be changed to reflect their current mood?

    It is of no consequence to me that the current US president is African-American and that the new GOP chairman is also. Professional qualifications are more important when they attempt to do their respective jobs rather than their racial heritage.

    So we keep letting these people in and overpopulate the Country just so we don't go against the inscription on the Statue of liberty? What a moronic suggestion.

    We're in a Recession. Jobs should be going to American wrokers. People who are going to pay taxes and put their money back into the economy. Not Western Union it back to their own Coutnry every payday.


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    jank
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    Why is it that non Irish people finding talking about potatoes with an Irish person funny?:pac:

    Idaho is famous for its survivalists and their camps dotted around the state.


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    jank
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    Make it tough for them and they'll deport themselves.

    And if they dont leave do have a final solution to the problem?:rolleyes:


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    Overheal
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    jank wrote: »
    Why is it that non Irish people finding talking about potatoes with an Irish person funny?:pac:

    Idaho is famous for its survivalists and their camps dotted around the state.
    So... how were they today? Your potaytos? *snicker*
    And if they dont leave do have a final solution to the problem?

    NaziBurn! :pac:

    So PJ What do you think - is it okay to throw out the immigrants? Or do you want them there as much as imported steel?

    O_O


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    Pocono Joe
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    Overheal wrote: »
    So PJ What do you think - is it okay to throw out the immigrants? Or do you want them there as much as imported steel?

    O_O

    What do I think? Any immigrant who is in the US legally, I say welcome. Any illegal alien in the US, I say deport them. And I must admit I’m torn over the anchor baby problem. But I think the illegal aliens will be on a fast track to US citizenship now that all three branches of our federal government (executive, legislative, and even judicial (Souter really pulled a fast one on Bush Sr.)) are Democrat controlled. 30 million extra registered Democrats guarantees an end to the Republicans and a two party system. I guess I’ve got to practice our new oath... “Viva La Socialism.”

    I have no problem with imported steel. I love a free and fair market. But if the imported steel is subsized by a government to artifically keep prices low enough to put domestic manufacturers out of business, then yes I am against it.


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    Black Swan
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    What a moronic suggestion.
    It is unfortunate that there are posters who often personally attack the character of someone they do not agree with, rather than address the issue? Such comments lend no value to their argument, are rude and inflammatory.
    Babybing wrote: »
    Is that really feasible and how much relevance does a 19th century sonnet have to modern America and the issues it faces?
    Fair enough. But there are people overseas that I've spoken with that still think that sonnet represents core American values. If America was a corporation and they continued to sell those Statue of Liberty models along with the inscription, would that not be false advertising?


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    JohnMc1
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    Blue_Lagoon wrote: »
    It is unfortunate that there are posters who often personally attack the character of someone they do not agree with, rather than address the issue? Such comments lend no value to their argument, are rude and inflammatory.

    Letting the Country become populated is moronic to the highest order. Tough Luck if you don't like it.


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    Black Swan
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Letting the Country become populated is moronic to the highest order. Tough Luck if you don't like it.
    You completely missed my point regarding the inscription on the Statue of Liberty. Reread my posts.

    Once again you continue to use inflammatory language, which does not lend any merit to your argument.


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    JohnMc1
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    Blue_Lagoon wrote: »
    You completely missed my point regarding the inscription on the Statue of Liberty. Reread my posts.

    Once again you continue to use inflammatory language, which does not lend any merit to your argument.

    You want the Govt to continue letting everyone and everything into the Country no questions asked. That could lead to overpopulation and why California is bankrupt.


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    GuanYin
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    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    You want the Govt to continue letting everyone and everything into the Country no questions asked. That could lead to overpopulation and why California is bankrupt.

    Explain exactly what the "everything" in your post refers to before posting in this forum again.


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