The Best Eleven from your own club ever

eagle eye

We've had the player you most dislike, like so why not have a best ever eleven from your own club.

My club: Blackburn Rovers

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Tim Flowers

Lucas Neill

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Colin Hendry

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Kevin Moran

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Graeme LeSaux

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David Batty

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David Bentley

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Tugay Kerimoglu

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Damien Duff

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Alan Shearer

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Simon Garner

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eZe^

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Zubi

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--L. Enrique---Koeman---Nadal

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Sergi--

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Guardiola

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Maradonna

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Laudrup

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Stoichkov-

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Cruyff

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Romario

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Subs;
Zamora - GK
Ramallets – GK
Puyol - CB
Goikoetxea - CB
Rivaldo - LM
Ronaldo - CF
Figo - rm
Hagi – CM
Bakero - AM
Kubala – CF
Alcantara - CF
Ronaldinho - CF


Picking the forwards is actually impossible, try picking from Maradonna, Alcantara, Romario, Laudrup, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Stoichkov, Ronaldinho, Kubala, Figo and Cruyff. Actually impossible.

Edit- Realistically Ronaldo doesn't deserve to get an all time spot considering he only played for one season, even if it was the best season he ever played.

Mr.Nice Guy

Man Utd

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Peter Schmeichel

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Gary Neville

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Jaap Stam

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Rio Ferdinand

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Denis Irwin----

Cristiano Ronaldo---Roy Keane (c)----Bobby Charlton----Ryan Giggs

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Denis Law

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George Best

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Subs:

Van Der Sar - GK
Stepney – GK
Carey - (LB/RB)
McGrath - CB
Vidic - CB
Beckham - RM
Robson - CM
Edwards - LM
Scholes - CM
Rooney - ST
Hughes – ST
Solskjaer - ST
Cantona - ST

K4t

Manchester United:

..........................................Peter Schmeichel......................................
Gary Neville...........Nemanjaa Vidic.............Jaap Stam..............Denis Irwin

C. Ronaldo............Paul Scholes.................Roy Keane..............George Best

.........................Denis Law......................Wayne Rooney........................

Subs:
Edwin Van Der Sar/Alex Stepney
Patrice Evra/Rio Ferdinand
Duncan Edwards/Bobby Charlton/Ryan Giggs/Bryan Robson/Paddy Crerand
Eric Cantona/Ruud Van Nistelrooy/Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Greatest talent unfulfilled at United).

I'm sure I left out loads of fantastic players but I don't think many teams would stand a chance against the starting line up. Duncan Edwards and Bobby Charlton would probably be in midfield but I never saw them play.

redout

K4t wrote: »

Manchester United:

..........................................Peter Schmeichel......................................
Gary Neville...........Nemanjaa Vidic.............Jaap Stam..............Denis Irwin

C. Ronaldo............Paul Scholes.................Roy Keane..............George Best

.........................Denis Law......................Wayne Rooney........................

Subs:
Edwin Van Der Sar/Alex Stepney
Patrice Evra/Rio Ferdinand
Duncan Edwards/Bobby Charlton/Ryan Giggs/Bryan Robson/Paddy Crerand
Eric Cantona/Ruud Van Nistelrooy/Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Greatest talent unfulfilled at United).

I'm sure I left out loads of fantastic players but I don't think many teams would stand a chance against the starting line up. Duncan Edwards and Bobby Charlton would probably be in midfield but I never saw them play.

No Bobby Charlton, Duncan Edwards in a United XI is blasphemy

whatawaster

Liverpool

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Grobbelaar

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Neal

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Hansen

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Lawrenson

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Beglin

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Souness

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Gerrard

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McManaman----Dalglish

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Barnes

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Rush

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Honourable mentions:

Carragher, Fowler, Keegan, Owen, Heighway, Hyypia,

eZe^

C. Ronaldo? Surprising.

DSB

K4t wrote: »

Manchester United:

..........................................Peter Schmeichel......................................
Gary Neville...........Nemanjaa Vidic.............Jaap Stam..............Denis Irwin

C. Ronaldo............Paul Scholes.................Roy Keane..............George Best

.........................Denis Law......................Wayne Rooney........................

Subs:
Edwin Van Der Sar/Alex Stepney
Patrice Evra/Rio Ferdinand
Duncan Edwards/Bobby Charlton/Ryan Giggs/Bryan Robson/Paddy Crerand
Eric Cantona/Ruud Van Nistelrooy/Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Greatest talent unfulfilled at United).

I'm sure I left out loads of fantastic players but I don't think many teams would stand a chance against the starting line up. Duncan Edwards and Bobby Charlton would probably be in midfield but I never saw them play.

No offence, but are you 12?

K4t

redout wrote: »

No Bobby Charlton, Duncan Edwards in a United XI is blasphemy

!!! I explained that the two of them could slot right in for Scholes/Keane but I chose Scholes/Keane purely because I have followed their careers and watched them my whole life and seen the incedible things they have both done. I can't say the same of Charlton/Edwards. I have only read about them or seen clips. They are all magnificent midfielders, Robson too.

mike65

Quite impossible to compile a starting 11 or even 3 of them so many stars there have been!

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Ray Clemence
Phil Neal---Alan Hansen-Sami Hyypia-Alan Kennedy
Billy Liddell--Jan Molby--Graeme Souness-John Barnes

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Kenny Dalglish--Robbie Fowler

Subs : Grobellaar (yes!), Steve Staunton, Mark Laurenson, Emlyn Hughes, Steven Gerrard, Ian Rush, Michael Owen

eZe^

K4t wrote: »

I chose Scholes/Keane purely because I have followed their careers and watched them my whole life too.

Good point, and one I agree with. I also tried to only include players I grew up watching, otherwise I'd have to put in Alcantara, can't argue with 327 goals in 327 appearances really.

Bounty Hunter

eZe^ wrote: »

C. Ronaldo? Surprising.

he would probably say the same about the lack of Messi in your squad. Either are argueably the best player in the world and therefore includable but id probably only include them in a few years myself esp Messi as Barca have so many options as emphasised by the full squad you did as apposed to just a best XI

K4t

eZe^ wrote: »

C. Ronaldo? Surprising.

40+ goals last season and already 11 this season having being injured for a lot of it. He's a remarkable footballer and will only get better as he matures.

DSB wrote: »

No offence, but are you 12?

No, but I give reasons for my decisions. What age are you?

DSB

K4t wrote: »

No, but I give reasons for my decisions. What age are you?

22 next Friday:D, have United only been a good team for like 10 years or something though?

redout

eZe^ wrote: »

Good point, and one I agree with. I also tried to only include players I grew up watching, otherwise I'd have to put in Alcantara, can't argue with 327 goals in 327 appearances really.

Well then where is Rivaldo ?

Fizman

eZe^ wrote: »

C. Ronaldo? Surprising.

Whatever about Ronaldo in his line up, but Rooney??? :eek:

I'm a Liverpool fan and all, but my god surely in the clubs illustrious history there have been better players/contributions?

Highsider

Bruce
Nicol
Smith
Hansen
Kennedy
Souness
Liddell
Gerrard
Barnes
King K
Rush.
Manager... Shanks.

K4t

redout wrote: »

Well then where is Rivaldo ?

On the ground.

DSB wrote: »

22 next Friday:D, have United only been a good team for like 10 years or something though?

No, but they have been most successful over the last 16 years. What is your actual problem with my team? Let's make this argument constructive at least!

Highsider

K4t wrote: »

Manchester United:

..........................................Peter Schmeichel......................................
Gary Neville...........Nemanjaa Vidic.............Jaap Stam..............Denis Irwin

C. Ronaldo............Paul Scholes.................Roy Keane..............George Best

.........................Denis Law......................Wayne Rooney........................

Subs:
Edwin Van Der Sar/Alex Stepney
Patrice Evra/Rio Ferdinand
Duncan Edwards/Bobby Charlton/Ryan Giggs/Bryan Robson/Paddy Crerand
Eric Cantona/Ruud Van Nistelrooy/Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Greatest talent unfulfilled at United).

I'm sure I left out loads of fantastic players but I don't think many teams would stand a chance against the starting line up. Duncan Edwards and Bobby Charlton would probably be in midfield but I never saw them play.

:pac: Rooney instead of Charlton. Priceless

redzerdrog

mike65 wrote: »

Quite impossible to compile a starting 11 or even 3 of them so many stars there have been!

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Ray Clemence
Phil Neal---Alan Hansen-Sami Hyypia-Alan Kennedy
Billy Liddell--Jan Molby--Graeme Souness-John Barnes

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Kenny Dalglish--Robbie Fowler

Subs : Grobellaar (yes!), Steve Staunton, Mark Laurenson, Emlyn Hughes, Steven Gerrard, Ian Rush, Michael Owen

put gerrard in for molby and that would be my team aswell and close with hyypia and carragher for me aswell

mike65

Highsider wrote: »

Bruce
Nicol
Smith
Hansen
Kennedy
Souness
Liddell
Gerrard
Barnes
King K
Rush.
Manager... Shanks.

Great team and it would win NOTHING! Who's this Bruce fella?

DSB

K4t wrote: »

On the ground.

No, but they have been most successful over the last 16 years. What is your actual problem with my team? Let's make this argument constructive at least!

My problem with your team is that theres no point in referring to it as the best team of United ever, when its pretty much just the best team ever from your lifetime. Makes no sense even posting one really.

eZe^

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

he would probably say the same about the lack of Messi in your squad. Either are argueably the best player in the world and therefore includable but id probably only include them in a few years myself esp Messi as Barca have so many options as emphasised by the full squad you did as apposed to just a best XI

Messi will eventually be there for sure, but I'd rather let him do the talking on the pitch for the next few years before I throw him in with the likes of Cruyff and Romario. In 10 years time lets hope he is not only included in the Barca all time XI, but the worlds all time XI.

redout wrote: »

Well then where is Rivaldo ?

It was between him and Maradona mate, considering Maradona was arguably the greatest player ever to grace a football field, I thought I'd reconsider ignore my selection progress just once. That alright with you? :pac:

K4t

DSB wrote: »

My problem with your team is that theres no point in referring to it as the best team of United ever, when its pretty much just the best team ever from your lifetime. Makes no sense even posting one really.

I've picked the best players IMO. Let's see your team?

eZe^

DSB wrote: »

My problem with your team is that theres no point in referring to it as the best team of United ever, when its pretty much just the best team ever from your lifetime. Makes no sense even posting one really.

So what? I'm sure if you posted a team there's someone out there a little older who would criticise some of your inclusions. Even if someone like Charlton should be in there, what's the point of k4t including him if he has never ever seen him play?

That's the problem with this forum these days, superiority complexes left right and centre. This is all about your opinion, fair enough if you want a debate, but there's no point in belittling with comments like "No offence, but are you 12?".

DSB

K4t wrote: »

I've picked the best players IMO. Let's see your team?

I don't support United, it'd be pretty hard for me to post the best Shelbourne team ever, I wouldn't have any sort of access to the teams before my time. And you can say IMO all you want, but theres no real point in having an opinion on something if it isn't an informed 1. Which given the ridiculous slant towards the last 10 years, it definitely doesn't seem to be. If someone started supporting football this year, should they just post the current first 11?

DSB

eZe^ wrote: »

So what? I'm sure if you posted a team there's someone out there a little older who would criticise some of your inclusions. Even if someone like Charlton should be in there, what's the point of k4t including him if he has never ever seen him play?

That's the problem with this forum these days, superiority complexes left right and centre. This is all about your opinion, fair enough if you want a debate, but there's no point in belittling with comments like "No offence, but are you 12?".

It isn't a superiority complex at all, theres just no point at all in having an opinion on the best team ever, if you only have a knowledge of the last 10 years.

eZe^

DSB wrote: »

I don't support United, it'd be pretty hard for me to post the best Shelbourne team ever, I wouldn't have any sort of access to the teams before my time. And you can say IMO all you want, but theres no real point in having an opinion on something if it isn't an informed 1. Which given the ridiculous slant towards the last 10 years, it definitely doesn't seem to be. If someone started supporting football this year, should they just post the current first 11?

Jesus, no point in anybody posting a team at all then. Mods lock the thread... :rolleyes:

DSB

eZe^ wrote: »

Jesus, no point in anybody posting a team at all then. Mods lock the thread... :rolleyes:

No, other people have taken the time to watch the old teams. If you only know the modern teams, theres actually no point in posting it as the best eleven ever, would just make the thread stupid.

Highsider

eZe^ wrote: »

So what? I'm sure if you posted a team there's someone out there a little older who would criticise some of your inclusions. Even if someone like Charlton should be in there, what's the point of k4t including him if he has never ever seen him play?

That's the problem with this forum these days, superiority complexes left right and centre. This is all about your opinion, fair enough if you want a debate, but there's no point in belittling with comments like "No offence, but are you 12?".

Good point but TBH if you are a real supporter of your club knowing the clubs history is part and parcel of being a supporter. For god's sake even the girlfriend who knows next to nothing about football is having a giggle here beside me with someone saying Bobby Charlton is'nt in a best ever man u eleven. Guess times are a changing and all that.

Samurai

Bosnich

Staunton
McGrath
Laursen
Southgate

Young
Barry
Townsend
Ginola

Yorke
Atkinson

only included players that played for villa whilst I've actually followed them (since i was 5) was pretty much off the top of my head, couldn't think of a worthy right back so gareth got the nod!

Havermeyer

..........................................P. Schmeichel.......................................

G. Neville...............R. Ferdinand..................S. Bruce..................D. Irwin

G. Best.................R. Keane........................B. Charlton...............R. Giggs

............................D. Law........................R. Van Nistelrooy..................

Bounty Hunter

Samurai wrote: »

Bosnich

Staunton
McGrath
Laursen
Southgate

Young
Barry
Townsend
Ginola

Yorke
Atkinson

only included players that played for villa whilst I've actually followed them (since i was 5) was pretty much off the top of my head, couldn't think of a worthy right back so gareth got the nod!

id have something similar, not best ever tho of course my lifetime but id make a couple of swaps

Southgate Out A.Wright/Delaney In (need a rb Laursen & McGrath to be the ultimate CB pairing).
Townsend Out Ian Taylor In
Atkinson Out maybe Saunders In (hopefully Gabby in the future)
Maybe Ginola Out too for a RM (i know Young could go there) or for Merson and alter the formation.

maybe something like this:

...........................Bosnich

A.Wright.......McGrath.....Laursen....Staunton

...............Taylor....Merson...Barry..............

......................A.Young (free-role)............
.............Yorke.............Saunders.............

not the best all time Villa XI at all although but i would have loved to see that CB pairing

redout

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Schmeichel


Brennan

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Foulkes

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Vidic

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Irwin

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Edwards

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Keane


Best

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Charlton

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Law

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Nistelrooy



Bench:
Stepney
Stam
Dunne
Neville
Hughes
Pallister
McGrath
Robson
Giggs
Wilkens
Viollet
Cantona
Scholes
Bruce
Stiles
Beckham
Kanchelskis
Whiteside

DSB

That is one mighty large bench:D

redout

eZe^ wrote: »

Good point, and one I agree with. I also tried to only include players I grew up watching, otherwise I'd have to put in Alcantara, can't argue with 327 goals in 327 appearances really.

redout wrote: »

Well then where is Rivaldo ?

eZe^ wrote: »

It was between him and Maradona mate, considering Maradona was arguably the greatest player ever to grace a football field, I thought I'd reconsider ignore my selection progress just once. That alright with you? :pac:

I know brother but I was asking in reference to the players you grew up watching which obviously rules out Maradona. Regardless of that I would manage room for both but then I probably am bias as Rivaldo was my fav player.:)

Theresalwaysone

United Fan.

Couldnt possibly attempt to put an "all time" team together, it would just be from what Ive heard and been told, not what Ive seen for myself.

redout

DSB wrote: »

That is one mighty large bench:D

Sssh........not so loud brother. Maybe the fourth official wont notice.:)

DSB

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

United Fan.

Couldnt possibly attempt to put an "all time" team together, it would just be from what Ive heard and been told, not what Ive seen for myself.

Probably best to change this thread title to 'The Best Eleven From Your Club In Your Lifetime', would make much more sense.

Theresalwaysone

DSB wrote: »

Probably best to change this thread title to 'The Best Eleven From Your Club In Your Lifetime', would make much more sense.

Well yeah, makes more sense, being 21 I only have limited "viewing time" of the actual team in real time, you can go back so far and see certain players but after that its just what was written/said about people, and more opinions. So its not really what you think the best 11 is, but what you've been told are very very good players and players youve seen yourself.

Kinda defeats the purpose of having an opinion on a best 11, when you are using someone elses opionion to include a player you've never seen.

Mr.Nice Guy

I dunno, I don't agree that you can only really include players you yourself have seen. If I was to choose the greatest Irish political leader of all time for example I sure as hell wouldn't only be choosing from the group that I've seen in my lifetime. Perish the thought. (shudder)

I think the key is to be able to distinguish between myth and reality. Admittedly this is difficult when dealing with players you haven't seen in your lifetime but I don't think it's impossible.

I think it would be pretty disappointing if the next generation of fans were to leave out guys like Roy Keane and Denis Irwin from a list like this purely because they never got to see them live. I would like to think this generation of United fans, and not just United fans but Irish fans in general, will make future generations know how special these players were.

That's just my view on it.

kingshankly

hooper

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carter diomede stewart kozma

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redzerdrog

kingshankly wrote: »

hooper

kvarme piechnic tanner dicks

carter diomede stewart kozma

diouf dundee

surely traore has to be left full

Xavi6

Only fair to go on players I've actually seen rather than hear say -

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James

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Dunne

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Morrison

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Distin

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Flitcroft

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SWP

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Benarbia

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Kinkladze

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Anelka

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Robinho

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Goater

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Subs:

Weaver
Phelan
Quinn
Lake
Pearce
Berkovic
Foe
Rosler
Beagrie
Horlock
Curle
Dickov

SlickRic

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Clemence

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Neal........Hansen........Lawrenson...Nicol
Callaghan....Souness.....Gerrard....Liddell
.............Dalglish...............................
..............................Rush..................

redzerdrog

doesnt say a lot for city if a player only there 6 months can make there all time 11

Xavi6

redzerdrog wrote: »

doesnt say a lot for city if a player only there 6 months can make there all time 11

It's not an 'All Time XI' as I already said. It's from my time supporting them (19 years). We haven't exactly been the most successful during that period and he the most naturally talented player I've ever seen in a blue shirt.

The likes of Bell, Lee, Trautmann, Summerbee (Mike not Nicky) and Power all probably deserve a place but I don't know how anyone can judge players they've never actually seen play a game.

ziggy

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kingshankly

Xavi6 wrote: »

It's not an 'All Time XI' as I already said. It's from my time supporting them (19 years). We haven't exactly been the most successful during that period and he the most naturally talented player I've ever seen in a blue shirt.

The likes of Bell, Lee, Trautmann, Summerbee (Mike not Nicky) and Power all probably deserve a place but I don't know how anyone can judge players they've never actually seen play a game.

i think youd have to throw in colin bell regardless of seeing him or not a brilliant midfielder even without his two sidekicks lee and summerbee .
i was wondering would dennis law ever make an all star 11 or would he be overlooked because of his affiliation with utd

Melion

No point in me putting in players for the 60's, 70's and 80's because i never seen them play(dont remember players from the 80's). So ill just do what i do remember.

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Pepe

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Rob Jones

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Sami---Carra----Riise

McManaman--Stevie--Redknapp--Berger

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Fowler

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Owen

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Subs:
Westerveld
Babbel
Henchoz
Xabi
Torres

therecklessone

Spurs:

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Jennings

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Hughton

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Mabbutt

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Norman

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Knowles

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Mackay

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Jones

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Perryman

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Blanchflower

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Hoddle

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Greaves

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The current lot aren't fit to lace their boots.

Subs:

Bill Brown
Alan Mullery
Graham Roberts
Clive Allen
Gary Lineker
Ossie Ardiles
Gazza