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Michael Carrick

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  • #52
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,454 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    YDMHSSB wrote: »
    had ronaldo done it, que 4 threads on how much of a disgrace he is. gerrard should have been sent off for it yesterday but of course hes innocent aint he? doesnt get much lower than hitting a man in the nuts. at least boswinga had the balls, no pun intended, to come out and apologise.

    anyway, thread successfully derailed alan, well done.

    back OT, Carrick for England. player of the month is between him, vidic and giggs.

    Not fair to Al there - i derailed it with a couple of rage posts. I'm going to leave that now.


  • #53
    YDMHSSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭YDMHSSB


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    Not fair to Al there - i derailed it with a couple of rage posts. I'm going to leave that now.

    oh apologies so to mr alan.


  • #54
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    its ok ya pair of gheys! ;)


  • #55
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,852 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    are you taking the mick, Alonso is the best CM in the PL this year, i didnt actually think anyone would argue that? :confused:

    lol no chance. Top 5 if lucky


  • #56
    Sizzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    I'd rate Fabregas,Alonso,Gerrard,Essien as all being better than him.
    Alonso :eek:

    CRACKER!

    I see you are putting a marker down already for 2009 for the most biased poster award.


  • #57
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    folks, go to the team of the season thread from a while ago, check out how often Alonso featured. He really has been outstanding.


  • #58
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,454 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    folks, go to the team of the season thread from a while ago, check out how often Alonso featured. He really has been outstanding.

    what % of nominations will be from Livepool fans though?

    I'm not saying Alonso is a bad player or not having a great season. I just think Carrick is better. There are players I think are better than Carrick, doesn't mean I think any less of Carrick.


  • #59
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Lads, can we just discuss Micahel Carrick without derailing the thread further?

    If not I'll lock it.

    Cheers


  • #60
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,454 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Lads, I don't see the words 'Gerrard' or 'Alonso' in the thread title so can we just discuss Micahel Carrick without derailing the thread further?

    If not I'll lock it.

    Cheers

    What? How can you discuss the virtues or a player without comparing him to other players? Tis football, everything is a comparisson. I don't think there have been any heated exchanges regarding the footballing merits of the players.

    May as well lock the thread now if we are not allowed to compare him to any other players.


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  • #61
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    What? How can you discuss the virtues or a player without comparing him to other players? Tis football, everything is a comparisson. I don't think there have been any heated exchanges regarding the footballing merits of the players.

    May as well lock the thread now if we are not allowed to compare him to any other players.

    Firstly, if you have a problem with a modding decision you can PM me and not derail the thread further.

    Secondly, you admitted yourself to derailing the thread so what are you on about now? Discussing Steven Gerrard, Cristiano Ronaldo and whoever else and their diving has nothing to do with Michael Carrick.


  • #62
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,719 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Carrick has been consistently doing it now for his 3rd season with United, tested and proven at the highest level and has not been found wanting, that can't be said for the rest of the comparble midfielders.


  • #63
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Boggles wrote: »
    Carrick has been consistently doing it now for his 3rd season with United, tested and proven at the highest level and has not been found wanting, that can't be said for the rest of the comparble midfielders.

    not true boggles. Carrick has upped his performances & their consistancy big time this year. before this year, he was a good player but not comparable wiith the other midfielders mentioned earlier.


  • #64
    YDMHSSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭YDMHSSB


    Boggles wrote: »
    Carrick has been consistently doing it now for his 3rd season with United, tested and proven at the highest level and has not been found wanting, that can't be said for the rest of the comparble midfielders.

    yep, his arrival came at a time when united were being lashed week in and week out for midfield problems. this has ended with carrick and he was the only signing that summer.


  • #65
    YDMHSSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭YDMHSSB


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    not true boggles. Carrick has upped his performances & their consistancy big time this year. before this year, he was a good player but not comparable wiith the other midfielders mentioned earlier.

    i think he was uniteds best player in the first half of last season. only my opinion though, but i know its one that alot of lads that support united shared at the time. rio and ronaldo took all the plaudits, but carrick was superb too.


  • #66
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    YDMHSSB wrote: »
    yep, his arrival came at a time when united were being lashed week in and week out for midfield problems. this has ended with carrick and he was the only signing that summer.

    A lot of people point to Carrick being are only signing that summer as some kind of magical turning point.

    What they forget to mention is that the season before we had lost Scholes for half the season. His return was like a new signing especially as he had altered his game a good bit.

    They also forget to mention that the most important transfer deal done that year for United was not buying Carrick it was selling Van Nistelrooy. This changed how United played immensely including allowing Ronaldo to shine.

    EDIT: Carrick obviously was and is important to the style we switched to.

    Not knocking Carrick he has been out best and most consistent midfielder for a year now.

    As for who ever said he was out best player in the first half of last season. He was actually fairly poor and was in and out of the side due to injury. He didn't get his form back until after Christmas.

    EDIT: IMO too but one that was expressed a lot last season. There were calls for him to be dropped before Christmas.


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  • #67
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    not true boggles. Carrick has upped his performances & their consistancy big time this year. before this year, he was a good player but not comparable wiith the other midfielders mentioned earlier.

    United won a Champions League and the league last season. They won the league the year before that and reached the semi-final of the Champions League. Now, they top the league, with four months of the season to go.

    Either the other outfield players have carried the dead weight of an average midfielder in some of these matches, or Carrick has contributed something to this. Midfield at that level (and in those games) isn't somewhere you tread water. He doesn't catch the eye of inflatable hammer type fans admittedly; he doesn't carry the team like Gerard or Lampard do, but saying he's merely a good player doesn't ring true.

    If he had more chances at international, he wouldn't be as underrated IMO.


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