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    #122
    sorella
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭sorella


    Wonderful.. of course I just glanced at the PETA site ; as I made clear then.

    Did not read fully; and not that kind of extremist.

    What you might call thus a "cafeteria" supporter

    BUT the fur farming needs stopping.

    Serious on that.
    Rory123 wrote: »
    I have seen the light! I have just set free my dog, cats, fish and parrot, to live life in their natural habitat of the North County Dublin jungle.

    WHAT DO WE WANT, ANIMAL RIGHTS, WHEN DO WE WANT IT NOW!!!
    GO PETA.


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    #123
    Guitarist-JEM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Guitarist-JEM


    It is DEFINITELY ILLEGAL ,not to mention ethically wrong and totaly inhumane, hence it being illegal..chimps should definitely not be kept as pets ..chimps that are taken from their mother from the wild are usually captured by people involved in the illegal pet trade ..

    it's definitely illegal so i suggest you report it when you see a chimp for sale..


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    #124
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Guitarist-JEM wrote: »
    It is DEFINITELY ILLEGAL ,not to mention ethically wrong and totaly inhumane, hence it being illegal..chimps should definitely not be kept as pets ..chimps that are taken from their mother from the wild are usually captured by people involved in the illegal pet trade ..

    it's definitely illegal so i suggest you report it when you see a chimp for sale..


    Actually we`ve already established that its NOT ILLEGAL.


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    #125
    cavedave
    Registered Users Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭cavedave


    Guitarist-JEM It is DEFINITELY ILLEGAL ,not to mention ethically wrong and totaly inhumane, hence it being illegal..chimps should definitely not be kept as pets ..chimps that are taken from their mother from the wild are usually captured by people involved in the illegal pet trade ..

    it's definitely illegal so i suggest you report it when you see a chimp for sale..

    This particular chimp appears to be a scam. There is good reason to believe most of the online chimp adverts are scams.

    Under what law is it illegal? There has been some mention of an EU law that bans their importation. If you could cite the relevant laws that would clear a lot of things up.


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    #126
    cos!!
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭cos!!


    Guitarist-JEM wrote: »
    It is DEFINITELY ILLEGAL ,not to mention ethically wrong and totaly inhumane, hence it being illegal..chimps should definitely not be kept as pets ..chimps that are taken from their mother from the wild are usually captured by people involved in the illegal pet trade ..

    it's definitely illegal so i suggest you report it when you see a chimp for sale..


    have you not read any of this thread?we have established that its NOT ILLEGAL!!and there are no petshops selling them, we are sayin though that there is nothing stoppiong them if they wanted. it being wrong or not

    edit: hellrazer and cavedave got in ahead of me


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    #127
    SCI
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    Guitarist-JEM wrote: »
    It is DEFINITELY ILLEGAL ,not to mention ethically wrong and totaly inhumane, hence it being illegal..chimps should definitely not be kept as pets ..chimps that are taken from their mother from the wild are usually captured by people involved in the illegal pet trade ..

    it's definitely illegal so i suggest you report it when you see a chimp for sale..

    It definitely is illegal to take a baby chimp from it's mother but it is definitely
    not illegal to buy or own one in Ireland. Chimps that are taken for the wild are
    not people usually involved in the illegal pet trade,they are definitely involved in illegal animal trade.


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    #128
    Rory123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Rory123


    sorella wrote: »
    Wonderful.. of course I just glanced at the PETA site ; as I made clear then.

    Did not read fully; and not that kind of extremist.

    What you might call thus a "cafeteria" supporter

    BUT the fur farming needs stopping.

    Serious on that.
    Have you got any leather products in your house? I bet there isn't a home in Ireland that doesn't have a pair of leather shoes, or jacket, or couch, or handbag etc. Same thing really, only that the meat from some furs is wasted.


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    #129
    Guitarist-JEM
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    SCI wrote: »
    It definitely is illegal to take a baby chimp from it's mother but it is definitely
    not illegal to buy or own one in Ireland. Chimps that are taken for the wild are
    not people usually involved in the illegal pet trade,they are definitely involved in illegal animal trade.

    How can it not be illegal to own a chimp,yet its illegal to take a chimp from its mother and the wild? it's the same bloody thing isn't it?

    well it may not be illegal in ireland but it should be ..


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    #130
    Our man in Havana
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    Ok folks - I feel this thread is now going around in a big LOOP! So I am locking this thread now.

    For the record once again - 99.9% of primates & any large exotic seen for sale online are scams! A tamarin costs around £3k - chimps would probably cost £5-10k not a few hundred yo yos!

    It is NOT illegal to keep primates including chimps & gorillas - ethics are a whole other kettle of fish! The reason it is NOT ILLEGAL is thanks to our government not having DWA legislation (DWA means dangerous wild animals) Therefore I can buy a tiger that has been captive bred & has CITES paperwork & I am not breaking ANY LAWS! If you object to this contact Mr John Gormley minister for the environment.


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    #131
    Our man in Havana
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    Guitarist-JEM wrote: »
    How can it not be illegal to own a chimp,yet its illegal to take a chimp from its mother and the wild? it's the same bloody thing isn't it?

    well it may not be illegal in ireland but it should be ..

    Big difference in wild caught & captive bred with CITES paperwork!

    If I own a lemur without CITES paperwork - the ISPCA & The gardaí can take that lemur away as I would be breaking the law - however if I have the CITES paperwork that is FINE.

    This is the last thing I am going to say in this thread, I hope this answers your question????


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