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Chuggers new tactics?

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    #122
    thefinalstage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    I feel left out. I never get stopped by chuggers even if I make eye contact with them on purpose.


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    #123
    youcrazyjesus!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭youcrazyjesus!


    What on earth do socialists have to do with chugging?

    These people are budding charity moguls. Lining their
    own pockets through charity. Nothing to do with
    Socialism whatsoever.

    Methinls you need a reality check. Not everybody you
    disagree with is a socialist.
    Acacia wrote: »
    One time, when I was working in Dublin, around the Stephen's Green area, chuggers came up to me and some of my friends from the office I was in, as we were walking back from our lunch break, running a bit late as well, I might add. One guy politely declined their invitation to 'talk for a few moments' and they shouted at the guy,

    "Go on, fcuk off back to your office then, drone!"

    Or something along those lines.

    Curiously enough, they'll probably end up working in the civil service after they come back from their year abroad, paid for with daddy's credit card.:rolleyes:

    They give mad socialist hippies a bad name! :pac:


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    #124
    4zn76tysfajdxp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    youcrazyjesus! wrote: »
    Not everybody you
    disagree with is a socialist.

    Yeah! They tend to be communists as well.


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    #125
    generalmiaow
    Registered Users Posts: 865 ✭✭✭generalmiaow


    Walking down grafton street one day two years ago:

    Chugger: Do you have a few minutes for cancer research?

    My friend: A few minutes? Yeah sure, but I doubt we'd get much done...


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    #126
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    youcrazyjesus! wrote: »
    Scum. I'd threaten them with the Gardai. They should be taught
    how to behave in a civilised manner, I am reasonably generous
    with charity I resent being approached by them and being spoken
    to in a smart alec manner. I do make a note of which charity is
    Involved and vow never to give to them.

    Reall scumbags alright, collecting money for charities...

    Seems like everyones a scumbag these days.

    The charity workers approach me and I tell them I don't have the time, if they persist I explain that I have no money. Keep walking, simple as.

    If you have a problem with it, ring the company in question, explain what happened etc etc...


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    #127
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Grady Cold Donut wrote: »
    Reall scumbags alright, collecting money for charities...

    Seems like everyones a scumbag these days.

    The charity workers approach me and I tell them I don't have the time, if they persist I explain that I have no money. Keep walking, simple as.

    If you have a problem with it, ring the company in question, explain what happened etc etc...

    Gwan away with yourself. You'd only have to listen to the same shyte, only this one will will be looking for your credit card details AND you'd be charged for the call.

    *boggle*


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    #128
    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    generalmiaow wrote: »
    Walking down grafton street one day two years ago:

    Chugger: Do you have a few minutes for cancer research?

    My friend: A few minutes? Yeah sure, but I doubt we'd get much done...

    Jimmy Carr called, he wants his joke back.


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    #129
    madmik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭madmik


    just spit on them

    works every time!

    ;)


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    #130
    sprinklesspanky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭sprinklesspanky


    Gone Drinking wrote: »
    I'd give alot more to charity if the hot female chuggers gave blowjobs in exchange.

    Then we could call them Charity Suckers or Chuckers

    The best idea ever.


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    #131
    generalmiaow
    Registered Users Posts: 865 ✭✭✭generalmiaow


    thelordofcheese wrote: »
    Jimmy Carr called, he wants his joke back.

    oh dear god, someone's got some 'splainin to do! He told me that was original


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    #132
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,694 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    rubadub wrote: »
    They are begging for money partly for themselves and aggresive begging can get you a fine of €700 now.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/new-law-to-crack-down-on-pushy-beggars-1550823.html

    The chuggers are far more "aggressively" begging than most homeless beggars too.

    It doesn't surprise me the abuse these beggars get, people will respond aggresively to other law breakers too, people will shout at somebody who is drunk and harrassing/annoying people that they are a f*cking kunt.

    People washing windows and handing out crap & begging/chugging at cars in traffic are usually jaywalking and should be fined too.

    I agree rubadub,

    And the chuggers are doing it all for charity. Hey, just because they
    happen to wear a GOAL or Concern t-shirt does not excuse it one bit.

    I also find it strange how so many people will step over and obvious cold and hungry person on the street; but will openly give their bank details or credit card number to a charity collecting for poor people they never even met?

    Hey, I am not saying you must give to the cold and hungry person beneath
    your feet; but how do you pass this person by and openly sign up to
    giving cash to these foreign based charities?

    Also, I am not aying you should give CASH to the person on the street; but a cup of warm soup
    or a bite to eat is not money wasted one bit!
    A lot on the streets would love a cup of coffee and a blanket even; not
    necessarily cash!


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    #133
    i71jskz5xu42pb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    walshb wrote: »
    Also, I am not aying you should give CASH to the person on the street; but a cup of warm soup
    or a bite to eat is not money wasted one bit!
    A lot on the streets would love a cup of coffee and a blanket even; not
    necessarily cash!

    Does your naïveté know any bounds? The majority of the guys on the street are drug/alcohol addicts (admittedly there are a few psychological cases as well). They want cash. Soup, coffee, blankets they can get no problem from various charities that tend to them.

    Nobody wants to see their donation spent on heroin or booze. This is the reason people will pass by street beggars to sign up to a registered charity. You can at least find out where you money is going.


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    #134
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,694 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Gemma Thousands Waterfall wrote: »
    Does your naïveté know any bounds? The majority of the guys on the street are drug/alcohol addicts (admittedly there are a few psychological cases as well). They want cash. Soup, coffee, blankets they can get no problem from various charities that tend to them.

    Nobody wants to see their donation spent on heroin or booze. This is the reason people will pass by street beggars to sign up to a registered charity. You can at least find out where you money is going.


    Find out where your money is going? And you call me naive:rolleyes:
    GOAL and Concern etc etc. More business and big money; oh, but an image of a starving child thousands of miles away makes it all right and genuine? I aint the naive one mate! GOAL and these charities operate as businesses, povery buisness!

    I said many on the streets are hungry and cold and maybe a cup of warm soup or a bite to eat. I am not saying hand them wads of cash. Slow down mate. I actually go and buy
    cups of soup and food. I do it. Are you seeing my point now? I don't give a flying
    **** what his circumstances are, I see a hungry man in front of me, I will do something!

    BTW, are you telling me that all these on the streets are addicts or psychological cases.
    There are no genuine homeless people in need of help or a chat or a bite to eat?
    Are you serious?

    And also, even if they are addicts and drunks; does that mean we
    should ignore them and sign up to a charity helping other
    "desperate" people miles away. Hey, if you see nothing weird about
    stepping over one helpless case in front of your eyes to sign
    up for direct debits to help other helpless cases thousands of miles away; well,
    so be it!

    That's Ireland. They will go out of their way to
    help people thousand of miles away and then
    make excuses for those in front of their very eyes.


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    #135
    i71jskz5xu42pb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    walshb wrote: »
    Find out where your money is going? And you call me naive:rolleyes:

    It's trivial to find out how much of your money is spent on administration, fundraising, etc. versus the actual charity side of things e.g. here are the numbers for Concern. All decent charities produce annual reports with this ratio. Obviously it's easier for you to sit behind your computer and cast baseless aspersions than to produce any facts.

    walshb wrote: »
    GOAL and Concern etc etc. More business and big money; oh, but an image of a starving child thousands of miles away make it all right. I aint the naive one mate! GOAL and these charities operate as businesses, povery buisness
    It's kind of difficult to make out the point you are trying to make here. Sure they operate as professional business. Otherwise they would not be nearly as successful in fund-raising as they are. And as with any successful business they need to hire good people and pay the going rate for such people. What exactly is your problem with that? What are you suggesting they do?

    walshb wrote: »
    BTW, are you telling me that all these on the streets are addicts or psychological cases.
    There are no genuine homeless people in need of help or a chat or a bite to eat?
    Are you serious?

    Absolutely. The HSE/Council/shelters will house anyone that needs a roof over their head.
    Only other reasons are addiction and psychological cases


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    #136
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,694 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Gemma Thousands Waterfall wrote: »
    It's trivial to find out how much of your money is spent on administration, fundraising, etc. versus the actual charity side of things e.g. here are the numbers for Concern. All decent charities produce annual reports with this ratio. Obviously it's easier for you to sit behind your computer and cast baseless aspersions than to produce any facts.



    It's kind of difficult to make out the point you are trying to make here. Sure they operate as professional business. Otherwise they would not be nearly as successful in fund-raising as they are. And as with any successful business they need to hire good people and pay the going rate for such people. What exactly is your problem with that? What are you suggesting they do?

    Mate, I think you thought I was advocating handing over wads of cash to street people. I wasn't and if that's what you or others want to do, so be it.
    I said I personally will get a man a bite to eat and something warm to drink.
    I will not pass a man in need of food, right in front of my eyes!

    Ok, lets say all are drunks and addicts etc. Does that mean we shouldn't even
    attempt to talk to them, feed them or help them at all?

    Again, a kind word, a chat, costs nothing; and a sandwich and a cup
    of soup costs very little


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    #137
    useful_contacts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭useful_contacts


    generalmiaow wrote: »
    Walking down grafton street one day two years ago:

    Chugger: Do you have a few minutes for cancer research?

    My friend: A few minutes? Yeah sure, but I doubt we'd get much done...


    Your friend stole that from an episode of scrubs


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    #138
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    useful_contacts wrote: »
    Your friend stole that from an episode of scrubs

    You watch that? :\


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    #139
    SoWatchaWant
    Registered Users Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭SoWatchaWant


    :confused:

    A firm "No thank you" always works for me.

    Failing that, you could always say you have no job and you live with you mother. Like me.


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    #140
    d22ontour
    Registered Users Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭d22ontour


    Ruu wrote: »
    I'd like to see a return to the days where they just shook a can in your face for some money.

    http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/780/780934/southpark-nightofthelivinghomeless_1176857340.jpg

    :D


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    #141
    FruitLover
    Registered Users Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭FruitLover


    useful_contacts wrote: »
    Your friend stole that from an episode of scrubs

    Eh... no, that quip is far older than Scrubs.


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    #142
    useful_contacts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭useful_contacts


    Abigayle wrote: »
    You watch that? :\

    I love it

    Its my thing

    Let it go:D:D:D:D:D *

    *i stole that from SATC


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    #143
    useful_contacts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭useful_contacts


    FruitLover wrote: »
    Eh... no, that quip is far older than Scrubs.

    Continue...


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    #144
    Acacia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    youcrazyjesus! wrote: »
    What on earth do socialists have to do with chugging?

    These people are budding charity moguls. Lining their
    own pockets through charity. Nothing to do with
    Socialism whatsoever.

    Methinls you need a reality check. Not everybody you
    disagree with is a socialist.

    It was a joke, good sir. A joke. :pac:


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    #145
    darkdubh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    I used to collect for charity myself and id never consider pestering people in the way that some of these chuggers operate.Though that dident stop busybodies approacing me in the street and accusing me of being a scammer.I got this crazy woman come up to me one time and tell me i was working for the devil.


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    #146
    Honey-ec
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    It's the fookers who call to your door just as you're sitting down to dinner/getting in the bath that I reserve a special kind of hatred for. Although I have three large dogs who go ballistic when the doorbell rings and it's nearly worth it when you see the look of pure panic on the chuggers' faces when 10-odd stone of Boxer hits the glass panel in the door.


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    #147
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,694 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    It's the fookers who call to your door just as you're sitting down to dinner/getting in the bath that I reserve a special kind of hatred for. Although I have three large dogs who go ballistic when the doorbell rings and it's nearly worth it when you see the look of pure panic on the chuggers' faces when 10-odd stone of Boxer hits the glass panel in the door.


    Here's a solution I use. Door bell ring, why open it unless you are expecting a person who has told you they are calling in. No excuse in this day to be calling unanounced to anyones door. Bad manners!

    So, relax and don't open the door. The chances are it is someone selling you something or wanting to annoy you. If it was someone you knew or expected, surely they would have let you know first their intention to call!


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    #148
    Pigman III
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭Pigman III


    But if they keep at you, saying shít like "aw we are raising it for... Blah blah blah", just be as vulgar and offencive about the charity as possible. Say... Orfanned kids, you say "Well serves the little fcukers right!"

    And that really pisses off women!


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    #149
    Honey-ec
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    walshb wrote: »
    Here's a solution I use. Door bell ring, why open it unless you are expecting a person who has told you they are calling in. No excuse in this day to be calling unanounced to anyones door. Bad manners!

    So, relax and don't open the door. The chances are it is someone selling you something or wanting to annoy you. If it was someone you knew or expected, surely they would have let you know first their intention to call!

    But what if it's the postman with my cheque for €17,000,000 from the Nigerian minister for agriculture? He said it should be arriving any day now...


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    #150
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,694 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    But what if it's the postman with my cheque for €17,000,000 from the Nigerian minister for agriculture? He said it should be arriving any day now...

    Well, that's what a letterbox is for, and if you need to sign for it, a
    leaflet will be posted thru telling you to collect:)

    Either way, you'll get it!

    Try what I said. BTW, out of interest, I bet the vast majority of calls
    were from people you didn't know. Usually any half decent mannered person YOU KNOW, will give you a tingle before they call over to let you know!


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    #151
    fenris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭fenris


    A particularly entertaining lady got really upset when I said

    "My mum told me never to talk to chuggers"

    Started to shout and screech about how she was not a chugger and how that it was a horible word for a difficult job as she followed me along grafton street getting increasingly verbal and ignored.


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