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Graph showing size of banks 2007 v 2009 in market capital

  • 03-02-2009 5:51pm
    #1
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Linky

    Was amazed to see this graph recently published by JP Morgan showing just how much some of the worlds top banks have shrunk in less than two years.

    I'd like to see the same for the Irish banks too and how it would compare...


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  • #2
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    Real interesting link that.


  • #3
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I was just looking over aibs history on the google search before I went to check my balance. They practically hit bottom the other day.


  • #4
    Blisterman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,460 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Those graphs are a bit misleading.
    It's the radius of the circle they have shrunk, not the area, so if a bank is half as big as a year ago, the circle is 1/4 of the size, and so on.


  • #5
    Krieg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Krieg


    I prefer the Icelandic stock market index graph

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/OMXI15.jpg


  • #6
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Blisterman wrote: »
    Those graphs are a bit misleading.
    It's the radius of the circle they have shrunk, not the area, so if a bank is half as big as a year ago, the circle is 1/4 of the size, and so on.
    What do you expect from accountants ?

    even worse are when they use pictures of 3D objects with a 1D scale


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  • #7
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Moved from AH.


  • #8
    Saabdub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭Saabdub


    Honey, I shrunk the shareholders capital:D


  • #9
    Kryx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭Kryx


    Very interesting graph. I don'y think the circle graph doesn't weigh the issue. You would think that, for example, the HSBC size is rougly about 40% of what it used to be in 2009. But if you approximate the smaller circles radius to be 4 and the larger one's 10.

    Rsmall = 4
    Area small = pi X Rsmall X Rsmall = 50.265

    Rbig = 10
    Area big = pi X Rbig X Rbig = 314.159

    The smaller circle is 15.999% of the larger circle!

    Therefore the banks capital is only 16% of what it used to be!!!!!!!!!


  • #10
    nesf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Weird graph, if you look at the JP Morgan one (intuitively) the area of the smaller circle should be approx 1/2 of the bigger one which it really isn't...

    I've never liked these kinds of graphs, too many different ways of interpreting them plus they're normally done a certain way for visual effect rather than accuracy! Give me simple bar charts any day. :)


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